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[Get Real!]

The Ministry of Education is only responsible for the student’s curriculums not bloody land or buildings!

Where the hell did he find this “lawyer”… in a Christmas cracker?

[Tim Drayton]

The Ministry of Education is only responsible for the student’s curriculums not bloody land or buildings!

Where the hell did he find this “lawyer”… in a Christmas cracker?

He is a lawyer himself. Although when he makes vague statements in support of his case like:

“Sanırım rahmetlik babam 1967 ile 1972 arasında bir miktar kira almış olabilir ancak bundan tam emin değilim”
"I think my deceased father may have obtained a small amount of rent between 1967 and 1972 but I am not sure."

I am not sure if I would want to have him defending me.

[Tim Drayton]

Who cares what the article says Halil? If there’s a school on his land then it comes under shire council expropriation, so what does the Ministry of Education have to do with it? Nothing!

He needs to get himself a competent lawyer who understands RoC law to negotiate a decent compensation for him.

what i understand from his writing he is member of the Barrister in law as well in South .... to be member properly he knows the laws . Am i right TIM ?

No one cares all our personal ideas GR ..... You are not the Law to decide ... Law will decide who is right who is wrong !

The ECHR would not even look at such case because their first question would be…

“Have you approached the RoC for compensation via their expropriation laws?”

If his answer is “no” then they’ll say “Then what the hell are you doing here wasting our time if your human rights have not been violated?”

The only thing this stupid lawyer will accomplish is to make his client bankrupt with uselessly inappropriate and costly procedures!

The rule is that an applicant must first exhaust all available domestic remedies before applying to the ECHR. Surely the appropriate domestic remedy is application to the Guardian of Turkish Cypriot Properties, the only authority in the RoC that may legally return Turkish Cypriot owned property to its owner. If he has failed to make such an application, even if only to have it turned down on grounds of residence - and there is no mention in the article of him having done so - I cannot see him getting very far at the ECHR.

[Get Real!]

Who cares what the article says Halil? If there’s a school on his land then it comes under shire council expropriation, so what does the Ministry of Education have to do with it? Nothing!

He needs to get himself a competent lawyer who understands RoC law to negotiate a decent compensation for him.

what i understand from his writing he is member of the Barrister in law as well in South .... to be member properly he knows the laws . Am i right TIM ?

No one cares all our personal ideas GR ..... You are not the Law to decide ... Law will decide who is right who is wrong !

The ECHR would not even look at such case because their first question would be…

“Have you approached the RoC for compensation via their expropriation laws?”

If his answer is “no” then they’ll say “Then what the hell are you doing here wasting our time if your human rights have not been violated?”

The only thing this stupid lawyer will accomplish is to make his client bankrupt with uselessly inappropriate and costly procedures!

The rule is that an applicant must first exhaust all available domestic remedies before applying to the ECHR. Surely the appropriate domestic remedy is application to the Guardian of Turkish Cypriot Properties, the only authority in the RoC that may legally return Turkish Cypriot owned property to its owner. If he has failed to make such an application, even if only to have it turned down on grounds of residence - and there is no mention in the article of him having done so - I cannot see him getting very far at the ECHR.

If there’s a public school where there was once a house, what makes you think there’s a guardian involved? It’s a clear case of expropriation not guardianship!

If it's not a public school then why was he complaining to the Ministry of Education?

Maybe Halil should first check all their assylums in case a nutter escaped...

[Tim Drayton]

Who cares what the article says Halil? If there’s a school on his land then it comes under shire council expropriation, so what does the Ministry of Education have to do with it? Nothing!

He needs to get himself a competent lawyer who understands RoC law to negotiate a decent compensation for him.

what i understand from his writing he is member of the Barrister in law as well in South .... to be member properly he knows the laws . Am i right TIM ?

No one cares all our personal ideas GR ..... You are not the Law to decide ... Law will decide who is right who is wrong !

The ECHR would not even look at such case because their first question would be…

“Have you approached the RoC for compensation via their expropriation laws?”

If his answer is “no” then they’ll say “Then what the hell are you doing here wasting our time if your human rights have not been violated?”

The only thing this stupid lawyer will accomplish is to make his client bankrupt with uselessly inappropriate and costly procedures!

The rule is that an applicant must first exhaust all available domestic remedies before applying to the ECHR. Surely the appropriate domestic remedy is application to the Guardian of Turkish Cypriot Properties, the only authority in the RoC that may legally return Turkish Cypriot owned property to its owner. If he has failed to make such an application, even if only to have it turned down on grounds of residence - and there is no mention in the article of him having done so - I cannot see him getting very far at the ECHR.

If there’s a public school where there was once a house, what makes you think there’s a guardian involved? It’s a clear case of expropriation not guardianship!

If it's not a public school then why was he complaining to the Ministry of Education?

Maybe Halil should first check all their assylums in case a nutter escaped...

We can only speculate as to the details of the case.

[halil]

Who cares what the article says Halil? If there’s a school on his land then it comes under shire council expropriation, so what does the Ministry of Education have to do with it? Nothing!

He needs to get himself a competent lawyer who understands RoC law to negotiate a decent compensation for him.

what i understand from his writing he is member of the Barrister in law as well in South .... to be member properly he knows the laws . Am i right TIM ?

No one cares all our personal ideas GR ..... You are not the Law to decide ... Law will decide who is right who is wrong !

The ECHR would not even look at such case because their first question would be…

“Have you approached the RoC for compensation via their expropriation laws?”

If his answer is “no” then they’ll say “Then what the hell are you doing here wasting our time if your human rights have not been violated?”

The only thing this stupid lawyer will accomplish is to make his client bankrupt with uselessly inappropriate and costly procedures!

The rule is that an applicant must first exhaust all available domestic remedies before applying to the ECHR. Surely the appropriate domestic remedy is application to the Guardian of Turkish Cypriot Properties, the only authority in the RoC that may legally return Turkish Cypriot owned property to its owner. If he has failed to make such an application, even if only to have it turned down on grounds of residence - and there is no mention in the article of him having done so - I cannot see him getting very far at the ECHR.

Tim , I don't know if u did have a chance to read Apostalides solicitor Konstantis Kandunas interview on Kıbrıs News paper . Resat Akar asked him If people can apply directly to ECHR without applying to Guardian of Turkish Cypriot Properties he said Yes .... from that time most of the people are started directly to applying to ECHR .... I will try to get that article if i can find from online of kibris archives.

[DT.]

Who cares what the article says Halil? If there’s a school on his land then it comes under shire council expropriation, so what does the Ministry of Education have to do with it? Nothing!

He needs to get himself a competent lawyer who understands RoC law to negotiate a decent compensation for him.

what i understand from his writing he is member of the Barrister in law as well in South .... to be member properly he knows the laws . Am i right TIM ?

No one cares all our personal ideas GR ..... You are not the Law to decide ... Law will decide who is right who is wrong !

The ECHR would not even look at such case because their first question would be…

“Have you approached the RoC for compensation via their expropriation laws?”

If his answer is “no” then they’ll say “Then what the hell are you doing here wasting our time if your human rights have not been violated?”

The only thing this stupid lawyer will accomplish is to make his client bankrupt with uselessly inappropriate and costly procedures!

The rule is that an applicant must first exhaust all available domestic remedies before applying to the ECHR. Surely the appropriate domestic remedy is application to the Guardian of Turkish Cypriot Properties, the only authority in the RoC that may legally return Turkish Cypriot owned property to its owner. If he has failed to make such an application, even if only to have it turned down on grounds of residence - and there is no mention in the article of him having done so - I cannot see him getting very far at the ECHR.

Tim , I don't know if u did have a chance to read Apostalides solicitor Konstantis Kandunas interview on Kıbrıs News paper . Resat Akar asked him If people can apply directly to ECHR without applying to Guardian of Turkish Cypriot Properties he said Yes .... from that time most of the people are started directly to applying to ECHR .... I will try to get that article if i can find from online of kibris archives.

Halil, Apostolides didn't apply to the ECHR. He applied to the UK Courts which requested guidance from the ECJ.

[Get Real!]

Tim , I don't know if u did have a chance to read Apostalides solicitor Konstantis Kandunas interview on Kıbrıs News paper . Resat Akar asked him If people can apply directly to ECHR without applying to Guardian of Turkish Cypriot Properties he said Yes .... from that time most of the people are started directly to applying to ECHR .... I will try to get that article if i can find from online of kibris archives.

You Turkish Cypriots are talking rubbish all the time!

The combined IQ of the “TRNC” would be a much more interesting debate…

[Tim Drayton]

Who cares what the article says Halil? If there’s a school on his land then it comes under shire council expropriation, so what does the Ministry of Education have to do with it? Nothing!

He needs to get himself a competent lawyer who understands RoC law to negotiate a decent compensation for him.

what i understand from his writing he is member of the Barrister in law as well in South .... to be member properly he knows the laws . Am i right TIM ?

No one cares all our personal ideas GR ..... You are not the Law to decide ... Law will decide who is right who is wrong !

The ECHR would not even look at such case because their first question would be…

“Have you approached the RoC for compensation via their expropriation laws?”

If his answer is “no” then they’ll say “Then what the hell are you doing here wasting our time if your human rights have not been violated?”

The only thing this stupid lawyer will accomplish is to make his client bankrupt with uselessly inappropriate and costly procedures!

The rule is that an applicant must first exhaust all available domestic remedies before applying to the ECHR. Surely the appropriate domestic remedy is application to the Guardian of Turkish Cypriot Properties, the only authority in the RoC that may legally return Turkish Cypriot owned property to its owner. If he has failed to make such an application, even if only to have it turned down on grounds of residence - and there is no mention in the article of him having done so - I cannot see him getting very far at the ECHR.

Tim , I don't know if u did have a chance to read Apostalides solicitor Konstantis Kandunas interview on Kıbrıs News paper . Resat Akar asked him If people can apply directly to ECHR without applying to Guardian of Turkish Cypriot Properties he said Yes .... from that time most of the people are started directly to applying to ECHR .... I will try to get that article if i can find from online of kibris archives.

You see, I can't help thinking that it would make more sense first to apply to the Guardian of Turkish Cypriot Properties, then go to the ECHR to contest the legality of the three years' residence requirement. I am no expert, though.

[bill cobbett]

In GB the phrase for this unpleasant word expropriation (IMO) is Compulsory Purchase which explains the procedure very well.