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Dayanc Case -dayanc Davasi

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Postby Sotos » Sun May 31, 2009 8:13 pm

He will end up in jail or paying a fine. Notice that this is a criminal who nowhere in his case talked about Republic of Cyprus while he is talking about "borders". I am sure he doesn't pay his taxes either.
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Re: Dayanc Case -dayanc Davasi

Postby Get Real! » Sun May 31, 2009 8:45 pm

halil wrote:For using his property he is claming 2 Million euros compensation .

Why do Turkish Cypriots always think their property is worth "millions"? :lol:

When the government decides to take over a piece of land or property (called “aballotriosi” in Greek) there’s nothing you can do about it but accept the cheque they offer.
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Postby Oracle » Sun May 31, 2009 8:58 pm

Perhaps you left some tents on the plains of Mongolia, you can charge for 400 years rent ... :lol:
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Postby Viewpoint » Sun May 31, 2009 9:36 pm

DT. wrote:There's a very simple solution to all this and a defense the govt uses. End the occupation by Turkey, give back people their homes and all can be restored.


How naive do you think you can vacate all TCs land that easily? How about the refugees homes in Limasol on TC land, are you gonna throw all these people out?
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Postby bill cobbett » Sun May 31, 2009 9:37 pm

If we believe in and support the property rights of this tissy, this chap's land is his. His to enjoy and do with as he likes in much the same way that Mr A should be able to do with his land in Lapithos.

This six month residency rule (although I can see the reasons for it) probably won't wash if it's tested at the ECHR cos, as it stands, it discriminates on ethnic grounds.

Regretfully, I have to say the gov of the Republic has to review it or face a PR setback on it's record.
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Postby wallace » Sun May 31, 2009 9:40 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
DT. wrote:There's a very simple solution to all this and a defense the govt uses. End the occupation by Turkey, give back people their homes and all can be restored.


How naive do you think you can vacate all TCs land that easily? How about the refugees homes in Limasol on TC land, are you gonna throw all these people out?


No....they will go back home if their houses and land isn't sold of that is and when the Turkish army fucks off from Cyprus. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby Viewpoint » Sun May 31, 2009 9:45 pm

wallace wrote:
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DT. wrote:There's a very simple solution to all this and a defense the govt uses. End the occupation by Turkey, give back people their homes and all can be restored.


How naive do you think you can vacate all TCs land that easily? How about the refugees homes in Limasol on TC land, are you gonna throw all these people out?


No....they will go back home if their houses and land isn't sold of that is and when the Turkish army fucks off from Cyprus. :lol: :lol: :lol:


They will not leave until there is a comprehensive solution with safeguards and guarantees. So you think 500 GC homes should be vacated and the land handed back to the TC? what about use of the land for the past 35 years?
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Postby Oracle » Sun May 31, 2009 9:48 pm

bill cobbett wrote:If we believe in and support the property rights of this tissy, this chap's land is his. His to enjoy and do with as he likes in much the same way that Mr A should be able to do with his land in Lapithos.

This six month residency rule (although I can see the reasons for it) probably won't wash if it's tested at the ECHR cos, as it stands, it discriminates on ethnic grounds.

Regretfully, I have to say the gov of the Republic has to review it or face a PR setback on it's record.


It depends on the reasons for the six month rule. If it's to determine the validity of contesting the property, it's an administrative problem which is not discriminatory. The EU will understand how long such things take to prove.

The reality is that GCs have been arrested for even picking flowers from their own property! However, the RoC has set in motion legitimate ways of TCs returning ... even though the "abandonments" by TCs were not of the RoC's volition, but a consequence of the Turkish invasion/walkout .... something the RoC had no administrative jurisdiction over.
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Postby YFred » Sun May 31, 2009 9:54 pm

Oracle wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:If we believe in and support the property rights of this tissy, this chap's land is his. His to enjoy and do with as he likes in much the same way that Mr A should be able to do with his land in Lapithos.

This six month residency rule (although I can see the reasons for it) probably won't wash if it's tested at the ECHR cos, as it stands, it discriminates on ethnic grounds.

Regretfully, I have to say the gov of the Republic has to review it or face a PR setback on it's record.


It depends on the reasons for the six month rule. If it's to determine the validity of contesting the property, it's an administrative problem which is not discriminatory. The EU will understand how long such things take to prove.

The reality is that GCs have been arrested for even picking flowers from their own property! However, the RoC has set in motion legitimate ways of TCs returning ... even though the "abandonments" by TCs were not of the RoC's volition, but a consequence of the Turkish invasion/walkout .... something the RoC had no administrative jurisdiction over.

So why have they taken 3 years and still not confirmed Deniz's Kochans and give his land back. He is an EU citizen, left Cyprus in 64 so the 6 month rule should not even apply to him.
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Postby Oracle » Sun May 31, 2009 10:03 pm

YFred wrote:
Oracle wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:If we believe in and support the property rights of this tissy, this chap's land is his. His to enjoy and do with as he likes in much the same way that Mr A should be able to do with his land in Lapithos.

This six month residency rule (although I can see the reasons for it) probably won't wash if it's tested at the ECHR cos, as it stands, it discriminates on ethnic grounds.

Regretfully, I have to say the gov of the Republic has to review it or face a PR setback on it's record.


It depends on the reasons for the six month rule. If it's to determine the validity of contesting the property, it's an administrative problem which is not discriminatory. The EU will understand how long such things take to prove.

The reality is that GCs have been arrested for even picking flowers from their own property! However, the RoC has set in motion legitimate ways of TCs returning ... even though the "abandonments" by TCs were not of the RoC's volition, but a consequence of the Turkish invasion/walkout .... something the RoC had no administrative jurisdiction over.

So why have they taken 3 years and still not confirmed Deniz's Kochans and give his land back. He is an EU citizen, left Cyprus in 64 so the 6 month rule should not even apply to him.


The slowness of the Kochan problem is not 'discriminatory' but subject to individual circumstances.

Deniz inherited land and there are various arrangements which probably have to be ironed out ... nothing to do with being TC .. but personal family circumstances. How old was Deniz in 1964? ... it was his father/mother who owned the property and not him then ... so all that takes time to sort ... believe me I know! :roll:
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