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[Oracle]

I hope you stick around my brother and give us the benefit of your undisputed wisdom.

Paphitis and wisdom should never appear in the same sentence...

That's two sentences with Paphitis and wisdom appearing together, now ...

Oopps now it's three ...

Paphitis ....

I can't believe you are going to allow that loud-mouth ruthless Miltiades to make decisions for you again.

Have a rest, because I know you have work to do anyway (unlike the cutlery salesman ) ... and then return!

I objected most strongly to a signature that was not only extremely offensive to many T/Cs but also to all decent G/Cs , a signature that belongs in the gutter , a statement that had it been made in public the person responsible would be arrested for inciting violence and hatred.
A signature that every civilized Cypriot ought to object , yet this Plonker Paphitis not only failed to condemn outright but took it upon him self to adopt this decrepit statement as his own.

It is the duty of every civilized and peace living Cypriot to condemn outright and in very clear words actions or statements that are damaging to the prospects of peace and are a welcome addition to Turkish propaganda regarding G/Cs.
I' m one G/C who will not stand idly buy and watch the reincarnation of the dark forces of 1963 -1974 that caused Cyprus's biggest catastrophe in inviting the Turkish army into our island.
Boisterous behaviour is one thing but hateful disgusting remarks is another.
O has persisted all along in assisting the enemies of Cyprus , she has NEVER uttered one word of wisdom , one constructive word , just one NEVER.She is a liability to the Cypriot cause , Miltiades has NEVER uttered one word that would be detrimental to the prospects of a solution and NEVER one word of hatred towards our compatriots the indigenous T/Cs.

On the one hand we have the "moral traditionalists" and on the other, we have the "moral rationalists".

Which branch describes you, Miltiades?

[Kikapu]

Before I leave this forum I have some unfinished business to take care off.

Some time ago, I created this thread:

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=24183

It is not a thread I feel particularly proud off, and I therefore feel compelled to open this thread in order to apologise to both GR! and Bananiot. The photographs were obtained from CF and so I believed they were fair game at the time. As most of you know, my photo is also on the forum and would have copped it fair and square if any of you responded in similar fashion.

It is not a thread I wish to be remembered for, and as a result I kindly request that ADMIN delete that thread entirely as it is in poor taste and out of character for me. GR! has attacked me personally at times, which is probably why I responded in such poor fashion, but Bananiot never did.

It is obvious to everyone that Bananiot and I had opposing views and there is nothing wrong with that. In fact, this is what this forum is suppose to be all about. But Bananiot by no means deserves photos such as these being posted on the forum and neither does GR!

As for Miltiades, he too has many views for which I can not relate to. Again there is nothing wrong with that. However, Miltiades needs to realise that we can not all be the same. He should allow these opposing views free passage and not act as a self appointed moderator or obstacle to free speech. By all means he should counter these opposing views with intellect and wit, which he continuously fails to do, but he should not behave like the almighty self appointed representative of the Cyprus Government and restrict other members from their democratic right to express their thoughts, whether they are serious or not.

Mr "The Cypriot", I naturally speak for myself, but your posts absolutely disgust me and your scatological references to "archidkia" are an absolute disgrace to yourself and Cyprus. I have no doubt that many people would agree, but you horkatiko talk is not representative of Cyprus and you need to cease with the Ttofallo rubbish. You make Cyprus look so simple and your mentality is simplistic to say the least. Most of your posts are not worth 2 cents and so far you are the only member who has managed to avoid all questions posed to you with smart arse and not particularly funny responses. Mas embrixes olous tha mesa.

As for myself, it is a big slap in the face being labelled a racist and under such circumstances it is impossible for me to continue. I thought I had made myself very clear as to the reasons why I temporarily adopted that infamous signature. They were of course to preserve other forumers freedom of expression and not to offend anyone. But many people chose to ignore this. As Talisker quite rightly stated, a member who has such a signature is only an indication that this particular member should not be taken seriously.

Finally, I would like to thank my good friend Kikapu for his sound advice and guidance. He has been the member I had found myself relating to the most and I hope to read many more of his well thought out political pieces and aviation threads...

Paphitis,

I found your above post very refreshing, that a forum member who like most of us can get a little carried away on the spur of the moment of excitement and bravado and say and do things only to regret it later, but have the integrity that most members would never take that most important step to correct their mistakes publicly as you have done, but rather hide from it in the hopes that it will just go away. In almost all of the cases, they do just go away from the forum but not from the hearts and minds of those comments whom they were directed to in the first place. However, a public aknowledgment of regret for such comments as the one you have made above can only be admired by any decent and fair minded members on this forum. I for one want to welcome you back to the forum without any judgement on your character and look forward to reading more of your enjoyable posts with important information on various subjects, and yes, including on aviation also.!

I do however have my standards on allowing “self exiled” members to return back to the forum, and that you will need to listen to this song at least THREE times before posting another post on the forum. I know that I can really be a bastard at times and I'm afraid, this is one of those times.!

[miltiades]

I hope you stick around my brother and give us the benefit of your undisputed wisdom.

Paphitis and wisdom should never appear in the same sentence...

That's two sentences with Paphitis and wisdom appearing together, now ...

Oopps now it's three ...

Paphitis ....

I can't believe you are going to allow that loud-mouth ruthless Miltiades to make decisions for you again.

Have a rest, because I know you have work to do anyway (unlike the cutlery salesman ) ... and then return!

I objected most strongly to a signature that was not only extremely offensive to many T/Cs but also to all decent G/Cs , a signature that belongs in the gutter , a statement that had it been made in public the person responsible would be arrested for inciting violence and hatred.
A signature that every civilized Cypriot ought to object , yet this Plonker Paphitis not only failed to condemn outright but took it upon him self to adopt this decrepit statement as his own.

It is the duty of every civilized and peace living Cypriot to condemn outright and in very clear words actions or statements that are damaging to the prospects of peace and are a welcome addition to Turkish propaganda regarding G/Cs.
I' m one G/C who will not stand idly buy and watch the reincarnation of the dark forces of 1963 -1974 that caused Cyprus's biggest catastrophe in inviting the Turkish army into our island.
Boisterous behaviour is one thing but hateful disgusting remarks is another.
O has persisted all along in assisting the enemies of Cyprus , she has NEVER uttered one word of wisdom , one constructive word , just one NEVER.She is a liability to the Cypriot cause , Miltiades has NEVER uttered one word that would be detrimental to the prospects of a solution and NEVER one word of hatred towards our compatriots the indigenous T/Cs.

On the one hand we have the "moral traditionalists" and on the other, we have the "moral rationalists".

Which branch describes you, Miltiades?

An apt description would be that of a realist , a Cypriot through and through a rational thinking individual , logical and liberated from the constrictive chains of religious and nationalist irrationalities and capable of identifying benign and malignant elements influencing either harmful or constructive to Cyprus views. Guess which category you belong to !!

[The Cypriot]

I found your above post very refreshing, that a forum member who like most of us can get a little carried away on the spur of the moment of excitement and bravado and say and do things only to regret it later, but have the integrity that most members would never take that most important step to correct their mistakes publicly as you have done,

Kiks, Paphitis's correction and apology in reference to the tasteless thread in question may indeed be admirable. However, in my limited time here I can think of perhaps three more serious, as well as potentially more hurtful, errors of judgment – certainly not done in jest – for which Paphitis not only failed to apologise but remained recalcitrant, digging himself deeper and adding to the offence.

For this reason I have been quite scathing of him in some of my posts for which I make no apology.

In all honesty, I am pleased to see the back of him.

[miltiades]

I found your above post very refreshing, that a forum member who like most of us can get a little carried away on the spur of the moment of excitement and bravado and say and do things only to regret it later, but have the integrity that most members would never take that most important step to correct their mistakes publicly as you have done,

Kiks, Paphitis's correction and apology in reference to the tasteless thread in question may indeed be admirable. However, in my limited time here I can think of perhaps three more serious, as well as potentially more hurtful, errors of judgment – certainly not done in jest – for which Paphitis not only failed to apologise but remained recalcitrant, digging himself deeper and adding to the offence.

For this reason I have been quite scathing of him in some of my posts for which I make no apology.

In all honesty, I am pleased to see the back of him.

He is grossly immature and unable to distinguish between a sensible statement and a stupid irresponsible one. To suggest that the RoC ought to shoot down a civilian aircraft entering Cyprus's airspace without permision ie Turkish civilian aircraft , is not only bloody stupid given the current climate but utterly irresponsible . His latest defence of the indefensible is further evidence of his gross immaturity and irresponsibilty. He is unapproachable , bloody stubborn and I second The Cypriots statement "In all honesty, I am pleased to see the back of him "

Sometime last year he rung me at my office and hand on my heart I was so pleased to hear from him , he is about the same age as my son , yet he has thrown insult after insult at me until eventually I came to the conclusion that he is worthless , dont want to know him or for that matter see him on the forum. He will be back , he is already back , infuriatingly preparing his post to counteract mine ! Has he got guts ? Like a mouse he has ! Or should that be like a chicken !!
Watch him bounce back !!

[Oracle]

On the one hand we have the "moral traditionalists" and on the other, we have the "moral rationalists".

Which branch describes you, Miltiades?

An apt description would be that of a realist , a Cypriot through and through a rational thinking individual , logical and liberated from the constrictive chains of religious and nationalist irrationalities and capable of identifying benign and malignant elements influencing either harmful or constructive to Cyprus views. Guess which category you belong to !!

On the contrary, you are the very model of an antonym of realist, and that was not what I had asked you.

You are ruled by highly charged and uncontrollable emotions, and perhaps Paphitis (being young) is your equivalent in this, and that is why the two of you constantly clash like this.

Where you and Paphitis are world's apart, is that Paphitis is a moral rationalist. You clearly do not even comprehend the difference between an unquestioning traditionalist who spouts whatever he has heard in a kafenio, and that which Paphitis was attempting, which was to rationalise an argument/idea/maxim, by trying to define it and put it to the test, before dismissing it or accepting it.

This was the stage he was at, as were others, when the barbarian in you, unable to comprehend the finer aspects of this forum, which are sometimes to analyse by breaking down perceived ideas so that we can make valued judgements, ripped forth like an uncredible hulk and sabotaged the whole debate. No wonder Paphitis faced with such persistent incomprehension bit the bullet and departed from debate.

You sabotaged the flow of a worthwhile debate because you do not comprehend the need to rationalise ....

[miltiades]

On the one hand we have the "moral traditionalists" and on the other, we have the "moral rationalists".

Which branch describes you, Miltiades?

An apt description would be that of a realist , a Cypriot through and through a rational thinking individual , logical and liberated from the constrictive chains of religious and nationalist irrationalities and capable of identifying benign and malignant elements influencing either harmful or constructive to Cyprus views. Guess which category you belong to !!

On the contrary, you are the very model of an antonym of realist, and that was not what I had asked you.

You are ruled by highly charged and uncontrollable emotions, and perhaps Paphitis (being young) is your equivalent in this, and that is why the two of you constantly clash like this.

Where you and Paphitis are world's apart, is that Paphitis is a moral rationalist. You clearly do not even comprehend the difference between an unquestioning traditionalist who spouts whatever he has heard in a kafenio, and that which Paphitis was attempting, which was to rationalise an argument/idea/maxim, by trying to define it and put it to the test, before dismissing it or accepting it.

This was the stage he was at, as were others, when the barbarian in you, unable to comprehend the finer aspects of this forum, which are sometimes to analyse by breaking down perceived ideas so that we can make valued judgements, ripped forth like an uncredible hulk and sabotaged the whole debate. No wonder Paphitis faced with such persistent incomprehension bit the bullet and departed from debate.

You sabotaged the flow of a worthwhile debate because you do not comprehend the need to rationalise ....

What exactly are the finest aspects of this forum O, ? Going to war with Turkey , an option you fully supported , all Turks out of Cyprus including the T/Cs , which you fully supported , shooting down civilian aircraft entering Cypriot airspace unauthorised that again you supported , or that a Good Turk is a Dead Turk which you fully supported.
What is rational about such monstrous views how does one rationalise with ideals that are propagated by irresponsible fools . This is not a scientific matter that one examines in a laboratory , this is a matter requiring wisdom , social acumen and common sense , all of which attributes you do not possess .
You become highly excited when a "newcomer" of extreme anti Turkish , T/C views appears on the forum. I have told you numerous times that your views are malignant to the Cyprus cause .We need people like you with same views as we need a hole in the head. Nothing that you have ever posted can be deemed as constructive to Cyprus. Therefore your assessment of your prodigy is flawed and dismissed herewith !

[Oracle]

On the one hand we have the "moral traditionalists" and on the other, we have the "moral rationalists".

Which branch describes you, Miltiades?

An apt description would be that of a realist , a Cypriot through and through a rational thinking individual , logical and liberated from the constrictive chains of religious and nationalist irrationalities and capable of identifying benign and malignant elements influencing either harmful or constructive to Cyprus views. Guess which category you belong to !!

On the contrary, you are the very model of an antonym of realist, and that was not what I had asked you.

You are ruled by highly charged and uncontrollable emotions, and perhaps Paphitis (being young) is your equivalent in this, and that is why the two of you constantly clash like this.

Where you and Paphitis are world's apart, is that Paphitis is a moral rationalist. You clearly do not even comprehend the difference between an unquestioning traditionalist who spouts whatever he has heard in a kafenio, and that which Paphitis was attempting, which was to rationalise an argument/idea/maxim, by trying to define it and put it to the test, before dismissing it or accepting it.

This was the stage he was at, as were others, when the barbarian in you, unable to comprehend the finer aspects of this forum, which are sometimes to analyse by breaking down perceived ideas so that we can make valued judgements, ripped forth like an uncredible hulk and sabotaged the whole debate. No wonder Paphitis faced with such persistent incomprehension bit the bullet and departed from debate.

You sabotaged the flow of a worthwhile debate because you do not comprehend the need to rationalise ....

What exactly are the finest aspects of this forum O, ? Going to war with Turkey , an option you fully supported , all Turks out of Cyprus including the T/Cs , which you fully supported , shooting down civilian aircraft entering Cypriot airspace unauthorised that again you supported , or that a Good Turk is a Dead Turk which you fully supported.
What is rational about such monstrous views how does one rationalise with ideals that are propagated by irresponsible fools . This is not a scientific matter that one examines in a laboratory , this is a matter requiring wisdom , social acumen and common sense , all of which attributes you do not possess .
You become highly excited when a "newcomer" of extreme anti Turkish , T/C views appears on the forum. I have told you numerous times that your views are malignant to the Cyprus cause .We need people like you with same views as we need a hole in the head. Nothing that you have ever posted can be deemed as constructive to Cyprus. Therefore your assessment of your prodigy is flawed and dismissed herewith !

This is were I leave you to stew, with your cut-and-paste, saved usual nonsense, since I know you best! Your summary series of miscomprehensions with which you use to rile newcomers to degenerate the forum into the kind of stavlo you are used to, are as unsubstantial as straw and dust to me.

You have nothing new to say, or add, and your 'traditional' outdated views do not belong in debate.

Wallow in the mire you create ....

[denizaksulu]

On the one hand we have the "moral traditionalists" and on the other, we have the "moral rationalists".

Which branch describes you, Miltiades?

An apt description would be that of a realist , a Cypriot through and through a rational thinking individual , logical and liberated from the constrictive chains of religious and nationalist irrationalities and capable of identifying benign and malignant elements influencing either harmful or constructive to Cyprus views. Guess which category you belong to !!

On the contrary, you are the very model of an antonym of realist, and that was not what I had asked you.

You are ruled by highly charged and uncontrollable emotions, and perhaps Paphitis (being young) is your equivalent in this, and that is why the two of you constantly clash like this.

Where you and Paphitis are world's apart, is that Paphitis is a moral rationalist. You clearly do not even comprehend the difference between an unquestioning traditionalist who spouts whatever he has heard in a kafenio, and that which Paphitis was attempting, which was to rationalise an argument/idea/maxim, by trying to define it and put it to the test, before dismissing it or accepting it.

This was the stage he was at, as were others, when the barbarian in you, unable to comprehend the finer aspects of this forum, which are sometimes to analyse by breaking down perceived ideas so that we can make valued judgements, ripped forth like an uncredible hulk and sabotaged the whole debate. No wonder Paphitis faced with such persistent incomprehension bit the bullet and departed from debate.

You sabotaged the flow of a worthwhile debate because you do not comprehend the need to rationalise ....

What exactly are the finest aspects of this forum O, ? Going to war with Turkey , an option you fully supported , all Turks out of Cyprus including the T/Cs , which you fully supported , shooting down civilian aircraft entering Cypriot airspace unauthorised that again you supported , or that a Good Turk is a Dead Turk which you fully supported.
What is rational about such monstrous views how does one rationalise with ideals that are propagated by irresponsible fools . This is not a scientific matter that one examines in a laboratory , this is a matter requiring wisdom , social acumen and common sense , all of which attributes you do not possess .
You become highly excited when a "newcomer" of extreme anti Turkish , T/C views appears on the forum. I have told you numerous times that your views are malignant to the Cyprus cause .We need people like you with same views as we need a hole in the head. Nothing that you have ever posted can be deemed as constructive to Cyprus. Therefore your assessment of your prodigy is flawed and dismissed herewith !

Hear, hear!!

[miltiades]

On the one hand we have the "moral traditionalists" and on the other, we have the "moral rationalists".

Which branch describes you, Miltiades?

An apt description would be that of a realist , a Cypriot through and through a rational thinking individual , logical and liberated from the constrictive chains of religious and nationalist irrationalities and capable of identifying benign and malignant elements influencing either harmful or constructive to Cyprus views. Guess which category you belong to !!

On the contrary, you are the very model of an antonym of realist, and that was not what I had asked you.

You are ruled by highly charged and uncontrollable emotions, and perhaps Paphitis (being young) is your equivalent in this, and that is why the two of you constantly clash like this.

Where you and Paphitis are world's apart, is that Paphitis is a moral rationalist. You clearly do not even comprehend the difference between an unquestioning traditionalist who spouts whatever he has heard in a kafenio, and that which Paphitis was attempting, which was to rationalise an argument/idea/maxim, by trying to define it and put it to the test, before dismissing it or accepting it.

This was the stage he was at, as were others, when the barbarian in you, unable to comprehend the finer aspects of this forum, which are sometimes to analyse by breaking down perceived ideas so that we can make valued judgements, ripped forth like an uncredible hulk and sabotaged the whole debate. No wonder Paphitis faced with such persistent incomprehension bit the bullet and departed from debate.

You sabotaged the flow of a worthwhile debate because you do not comprehend the need to rationalise ....

What exactly are the finest aspects of this forum O, ? Going to war with Turkey , an option you fully supported , all Turks out of Cyprus including the T/Cs , which you fully supported , shooting down civilian aircraft entering Cypriot airspace unauthorised that again you supported , or that a Good Turk is a Dead Turk which you fully supported.
What is rational about such monstrous views how does one rationalise with ideals that are propagated by irresponsible fools . This is not a scientific matter that one examines in a laboratory , this is a matter requiring wisdom , social acumen and common sense , all of which attributes you do not possess .
You become highly excited when a "newcomer" of extreme anti Turkish , T/C views appears on the forum. I have told you numerous times that your views are malignant to the Cyprus cause .We need people like you with same views as we need a hole in the head. Nothing that you have ever posted can be deemed as constructive to Cyprus. Therefore your assessment of your prodigy is flawed and dismissed herewith !

This is were I leave you to stew, with your cut-and-paste, saved usual nonsense, since I know you best! Your summary series of miscomprehensions with which you use to rile newcomers to degenerate the forum into the kind of stavlo you are used to, are as unsubstantial as straw and dust to me.

You have nothing new to say, or add, and your 'traditional' outdated views do not belong in debate.

Wallow in the mire you create ....

What IS outdated about reacting against obnoxious repugnant vulgar views for god sake woman , and how do you derive at the decision that I miss-comprehend and that I cut and paste !. O , not wishing to be rude to a lady I'm going to however be rude to you , you are full of copra , are you entirely sure that you are not a coprologist rather than a scientist !

ps. I was actually born in a METOCHI , famously known in Stroumbi the Great as TO METOCHI TO SOFIANOU !!!