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Postby The Cypriot » Sat May 30, 2009 7:10 pm

Byron wrote:Cyprus has moved forward 100 % literacy

:roll:

Shame the numeracy problems remain then.
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Postby miltiades » Sat May 30, 2009 7:15 pm

Byron wrote:
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Byron wrote:Now we know why Miltiades is so anti hellenic and so pro Turkish, according to James_mav he married a Turk and bred turko kyprious; so does that give him the alter to exert his propaganda against the majority of Greek Cypriots ? I wonder out of the 800,000 existing population how many mixed marriages there are: 1, 2, 5 may be 100 ? What does that tell you ! Simple answer we are two different communities based on two different cultures not yet ready to mix to become one culture, one religion or one common language.

Another Plonker !! Both , or rather all of the extremists such as James aka Mainard might even be Scaliotis , Floda and many more , have to read this :
POU DEN MBORI NA DERI TON GARON DERNI TO SAMA.
So in order to be constructive and wise when it comes to the Cyprob one must be married to a Turk !!!! Just as the T/C extremists were hurling insults at Kikapu for daring to tell the truth accusing him of being a Greek , married to a Greek etc etc. , the same lunatics and utterly useless to the Cyprus cause the G/C Greek extremists are now deciding that Miltiades must be married to a Turk how else can he be so unbiased and wise !
What a bunch of tossers none bigger than O herself.
May I just once again remind these abhorrent individuals that families are never questioned on the forum , you want to attack me go on I can take you all on and pulverise you , just leave family out of it .

ps. Cypriots will not EVER allow your kind to dictate and terrify the people. You fucked it up in 74 you have run out of balls material now , Greece ain't going to come to your aid in fact the Greeks of Greece do not give a shit about Cyprus you should know that by now.


Be careful how you use your words you foul mouth swearing old fool. So you know all about plonking do you perhaps you do since you know the exact meaning of the word.

Explain why there are so few inter-marriages between Greek and Turkish Cypriots. Does that not tell you something ?

What do you mean take us all on ? In a fight ? In discussion ? First learn to write English, not slang and try to write without using vocabulary such as .... plonker, tosser, fucked up..because we can also use it back against you but we prefer not to raise to your level of intelligence. Also your GREEK is awful, it does not impress us with your village ways, Cyprus has moved forward 100 % literacy, well almost !

I think you and your clan , Epsilon , Floda , James , Oracle , and Polis have the most destructive unhelpful views regarding Cyprus . I want to take you all on in a poll that should I lose I depart and let the extremists carry on with their hateful despicable ways.
Since you appear to be in full command of the .....English language , I hope you will do your utmost to raise to my level of intelligence. Plonker , watch out for the new thread and the poll to get Miltiades out of your side ...!!
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Postby Byron » Sat May 30, 2009 8:01 pm

miltiades wrote:
Byron wrote:
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Byron wrote:Now we know why Miltiades is so anti hellenic and so pro Turkish, according to James_mav he married a Turk and bred turko kyprious; so does that give him the alter to exert his propaganda against the majority of Greek Cypriots ? I wonder out of the 800,000 existing population how many mixed marriages there are: 1, 2, 5 may be 100 ? What does that tell you ! Simple answer we are two different communities based on two different cultures not yet ready to mix to become one culture, one religion or one common language.

Another Plonker !! Both , or rather all of the extremists such as James aka Mainard might even be Scaliotis , Floda and many more , have to read this :
POU DEN MBORI NA DERI TON GARON DERNI TO SAMA.
So in order to be constructive and wise when it comes to the Cyprob one must be married to a Turk !!!! Just as the T/C extremists were hurling insults at Kikapu for daring to tell the truth accusing him of being a Greek , married to a Greek etc etc. , the same lunatics and utterly useless to the Cyprus cause the G/C Greek extremists are now deciding that Miltiades must be married to a Turk how else can he be so unbiased and wise !
What a bunch of tossers none bigger than O herself.
May I just once again remind these abhorrent individuals that families are never questioned on the forum , you want to attack me go on I can take you all on and pulverise you , just leave family out of it .

ps. Cypriots will not EVER allow your kind to dictate and terrify the people. You fucked it up in 74 you have run out of balls material now , Greece ain't going to come to your aid in fact the Greeks of Greece do not give a shit about Cyprus you should know that by now.


Be careful how you use your words you foul mouth swearing old fool. So you know all about plonking do you perhaps you do since you know the exact meaning of the word.

Explain why there are so few inter-marriages between Greek and Turkish Cypriots. Does that not tell you something ?

What do you mean take us all on ? In a fight ? In discussion ? First learn to write English, not slang and try to write without using vocabulary such as .... plonker, tosser, fucked up..because we can also use it back against you but we prefer not to raise to your level of intelligence. Also your GREEK is awful, it does not impress us with your village ways, Cyprus has moved forward 100 % literacy, well almost !

I think you and your clan , Epsilon , Floda , James , Oracle , and Polis have the most destructive unhelpful views regarding Cyprus . I want to take you all on in a poll that should I lose I depart and let the extremists carry on with their hateful despicable ways.
Since you appear to be in full command of the .....English language , I hope you will do your utmost to raise to my level of intelligence. Plonker , watch out for the new thread and the poll to get Miltiades out of your side ...!!


You are like reheated minestrone soup ( minestra riscaldata as they say in Italy), repeating the same old things. We are firstly not extremists but just happen to differ from a political point of view although we do not use your type of language nor can you say we are extreme. Extreme in what ? I also suggest you look up the word "plonker" you might be surprised about its true meaning, so again I invite you to moderate your language. Secondly your intelligence or polls are of no interest to us, what we are interested in is to solve the Cyprus problem in a civil way.
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Postby Viewpoint » Sat May 30, 2009 10:15 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Have you been to the TRNC?

Many times and it’s a heap of shit! As the article says, it’s like traveling to Kabul!

we have the record of Mercedes sales in the region so dont give me that crap.

Through your arse as per usual... :roll:

...reality is we are on a par with may new EU members, read the IMF/World Bank Report on the TRNC:

Through your arse as per usual... :roll:

I don't know what the hell you're doing in the CyProb... totally out of touch with reality.


You are the one out of touch with reality you still think the island is not divided...
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Postby Get Real! » Sat May 30, 2009 11:14 pm

You may well be living comfortably VP, but you wouldn’t represent the average Turkish Cypriot who DOES need Greek Cypriot jobs, finances, amenities, opportunities, etc.
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Postby Viewpoint » Sat May 30, 2009 11:16 pm

Get Real! wrote:You may well be living comfortably VP, but you wouldn’t represent the average Turkish Cypriot who DOES need Greek Cypriot jobs, finances, amenities, opportunities, etc.


You get migrant workers all over Europe nothing new there.
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Postby miltiades » Sat May 30, 2009 11:31 pm

I have just noticed the change in your signature VP !!
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Postby EPSILON » Sat May 30, 2009 11:50 pm

halil wrote:Heading toward disasterIn the period between 1968 and 1974, the face of the press changed dramatically; it reflected
the extreme polarisation of the society. There was a proliferation of newspapers supporting
the violent actions of EOKA B as well as papers supporting Makarios. The content of articles
and editorials during that period is a real shame for democracy and political culture. The
opponents are presented as traitors, as foreign agents, as serving the interests of the enemies
of Cyprus etc. The vocabulary used was really of bad taste and very offending.
This same climate continued after summer 1974, in spite of the destruction, the displacement
of tens of thousands of people and the division of the island.
Nationalist rhetoric and political discourse changed after 1976 and attempts were made to
prove that cohabitation with Turkish Cypriots was possible. The term of “rapprochement”
was introduced. I will not expand on this. More research is needed in connection to the
various activities (publications, seminars, statements etc) of that period. Any research should
take into consideration the content of the education, the political rhetoric and other actions.
Within that context, it is very important to note that rapprochement could but remain a purely
theoretical construction; the dividing line and the enforced segregation of Greek and Turkish
Cypriots left no room for any realistic expectations from it.
In the same spirit, I believe that the trends for “Cypriotism” that emerged, especially after
1978 and the strengthening of the entity of the Republic of Cyprus can not be considered as
official choices in opposition to nationalism. The period from 1974 to 1980 has not been duly
studied and the choices made by either side have not been adequately assessed.
The period from 1974 to 1978 and 1980 is rather a period of adjustment to new realities,
including the shift from the old to a new political leadership. This power struggle can not be
overseen; it should also be linked to decisions such as the celebration of the independence day
(started for the first time ever in 1980). This celebration and the military parade was not an
expression of Cypriotism; the years that followed proved that the Republic of Cyprus was
used as an asset that could counterbalance, at least partially, the advantages gained by the
Turkish side in summer 1974. One should not forget that the political forces preaching
Cypriotism have consistently supported nationalist views.
In connection to the press, further study and content analysis are needed.


My dear, do not try to find new theories and excusses about what Cyprus problem is.Yes, there was a "push" to T/cs society in Cyprus, Yes there was even fascist and nationalists actions gainst them during the period of 1963-1974.Yes, G/cs society must be shamed for some of its actions against this minority.Yes T/cs, for several years, were considered as "second class citizens".

However in al these facts on which i fully agree, i repeat i fully agree,you just missed the reason.If you, Talat, Ertogan an particulrly the generals in Ankara and most particular ,persons like Milti of us in London understand, then Cyprus problem is solved.

I just remind you that Cyprus never,repeat never occupied by modern Greek state but despite this, still, many people in South consider themselves as Greeks. This what, your sultans 5 centuries now try to cancel.Finally recently you found some supporters in G/cs society and even in G/cs leadership/ The worst for the South are near to come / Turkish invasion in the next few months (estimate Feb 2010) will look the smaller problem for South-Unfortunately our end are loosing rutes and targets. Lucky you.!!!
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Postby DT. » Sun May 31, 2009 1:10 am

Viewpoint wrote:
Get Real! wrote:You may well be living comfortably VP, but you wouldn’t represent the average Turkish Cypriot who DOES need Greek Cypriot jobs, finances, amenities, opportunities, etc.


You get migrant workers all over Europe nothing new there.


Is your new sig telling us you are now homophobic as well VP?
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Postby miltiades » Sun May 31, 2009 6:16 am

EPSILON wrote:
halil wrote:Heading toward disasterIn the period between 1968 and 1974, the face of the press changed dramatically; it reflected
the extreme polarisation of the society. There was a proliferation of newspapers supporting
the violent actions of EOKA B as well as papers supporting Makarios. The content of articles
and editorials during that period is a real shame for democracy and political culture. The
opponents are presented as traitors, as foreign agents, as serving the interests of the enemies
of Cyprus etc. The vocabulary used was really of bad taste and very offending.
This same climate continued after summer 1974, in spite of the destruction, the displacement
of tens of thousands of people and the division of the island.
Nationalist rhetoric and political discourse changed after 1976 and attempts were made to
prove that cohabitation with Turkish Cypriots was possible. The term of “rapprochement”
was introduced. I will not expand on this. More research is needed in connection to the
various activities (publications, seminars, statements etc) of that period. Any research should
take into consideration the content of the education, the political rhetoric and other actions.
Within that context, it is very important to note that rapprochement could but remain a purely
theoretical construction; the dividing line and the enforced segregation of Greek and Turkish
Cypriots left no room for any realistic expectations from it.
In the same spirit, I believe that the trends for “Cypriotism” that emerged, especially after
1978 and the strengthening of the entity of the Republic of Cyprus can not be considered as
official choices in opposition to nationalism. The period from 1974 to 1980 has not been duly
studied and the choices made by either side have not been adequately assessed.
The period from 1974 to 1978 and 1980 is rather a period of adjustment to new realities,
including the shift from the old to a new political leadership. This power struggle can not be
overseen; it should also be linked to decisions such as the celebration of the independence day
(started for the first time ever in 1980). This celebration and the military parade was not an
expression of Cypriotism; the years that followed proved that the Republic of Cyprus was
used as an asset that could counterbalance, at least partially, the advantages gained by the
Turkish side in summer 1974. One should not forget that the political forces preaching
Cypriotism have consistently supported nationalist views.
In connection to the press, further study and content analysis are needed.


My dear, do not try to find new theories and excusses about what Cyprus problem is.Yes, there was a "push" to T/cs society in Cyprus, Yes there was even fascist and nationalists actions gainst them during the period of 1963-1974.Yes, G/cs society must be shamed for some of its actions against this minority.Yes T/cs, for several years, were considered as "second class citizens".

However in al these facts on which i fully agree, i repeat i fully agree,you just missed the reason.If you, Talat, Ertogan an particulrly the generals in Ankara and most particular ,persons like Milti of us in London understand, then Cyprus problem is solved.

I just remind you that Cyprus never,repeat never occupied by modern Greek state but despite this, still, many people in South consider themselves as Greeks. This what, your sultans 5 centuries now try to cancel.Finally recently you found some supporters in G/cs society and even in G/cs leadership/ The worst for the South are near to come / Turkish invasion in the next few months (estimate Feb 2010) will look the smaller problem for South-Unfortunately our end are loosing rutes and targets. Lucky you.!!!

What on earth are you talking about , "" invasion , G/C supporters , loosing rutes and targets "" !!! You are not making sense mate !!
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