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Postby Byron » Sun May 31, 2009 3:37 pm

Kifeas wrote:
Byron wrote:Who said there was no such thing as Cypriotness? - Dryton

So how comes there is no common language !!!


Sorry Byron, but you have a very defective logic and I wouldn't recommend you to take an IQ test, as you will be very disappointed of the results. Who said to you that there must be a common language, for a country to exist as one unit to which all will feel allegiance to it? Does Switzerland have one common language? It has at least four, as a matter of fact! Don't they all feel Swiss, above all? Yes they do!


Don't need to take an IQ test thank you very much ! Switzerland although has four languages is not a good example to take. In fact the majority language is Swiss German !!! Look at Belgium, French speakers and Flemish speakers hate each other !!!
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Postby zan » Sun May 31, 2009 3:37 pm

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zan wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:
zan wrote:
Kifeas wrote:
Byron wrote:Who said there was no such thing as Cypriotness? - Dryton

So how comes there is no common language !!!


Sorry Byron, but you have a very defective logic and I wouldn't recommend you to take an IQ test, as you will be very disappointed of the results. Who said to you that there must be a common language, for a country to exist as one unit to which all will feel allegiance to it? Does Switzerland have one common language? It has at least four, as a matter of fact! Don't they all feel Swiss, above all? Yes they do!


Are these OFFICIAL languages.... :roll:





Yes, Switzerland has four official languages.


Then a bit different to the picture painted of TCs...Not all by he way...Speaking Greek because of convenience. We taught Turkish in our schools and not Greek...Those in mixed villages, like my father, spoke both....Those in the North of Lefkosa and purely TC, like my mum, did not.


I hear what you are saying, but a great many elderly Turkish Cypriots are very fluent in the Greek Cypriot vernacular.


I got a lift with a tissy taxi driver here in London a few months ago. A youngish chap, in his thirties, who had lived for years, 'til recently in Kyrenia Town. He spoke the Cy dialect perfectly.

Given the large number of Tr based words in the dialect, this shouldn't have come as a surprise, but it did.


Which one?????


Axirtir mate!



Must be Greek then because there is no such word in Turkish.....The other Cypriot dialect!!!!
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Postby Tim Drayton » Sun May 31, 2009 3:38 pm

zan wrote:
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zan wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:
zan wrote:
Kifeas wrote:
Byron wrote:Who said there was no such thing as Cypriotness? - Dryton

So how comes there is no common language !!!


Sorry Byron, but you have a very defective logic and I wouldn't recommend you to take an IQ test, as you will be very disappointed of the results. Who said to you that there must be a common language, for a country to exist as one unit to which all will feel allegiance to it? Does Switzerland have one common language? It has at least four, as a matter of fact! Don't they all feel Swiss, above all? Yes they do!


Are these OFFICIAL languages.... :roll:


Yes, Switzerland has four official languages.


Then a bit different to the picture painted of TCs...Not all by he way...Speaking Greek because of convenience. We taught Turkish in our schools and not Greek...Those in mixed villages, like my father, spoke both....Those in the North of Lefkosa and purely TC, like my mum, did not.


I hear what you are saying, but a great many elderly Turkish Cypriots are very fluent in the Greek Cypriot vernacular.


Do you know if you can say the same for the GCs speaking Turkish???? I would say, not nearly as many......Shows who had the phobia!!!


Not as many, but I have come across them.
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Postby Byron » Sun May 31, 2009 3:39 pm

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Byron wrote:Who said there was no such thing as Cypriotness? - Dryton

So how comes there is no common language !!!


At one time virtually all Turkish Cypriots were fluent in the Cypriot dialect of Greek as well as in their own language - in common with Cypriot Armenians and Maronites today, so in a way at one time there was a common language. On the other had, there is a strong sense of national identity among the Swiss even though this country has four official languages, so the existence of a common language is not an absolute requirement for people to regard one another as compatriots


But it helps .
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Postby Tim Drayton » Sun May 31, 2009 3:41 pm

Byron wrote:
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Byron wrote:Who said there was no such thing as Cypriotness? - Dryton

So how comes there is no common language !!!


At one time virtually all Turkish Cypriots were fluent in the Cypriot dialect of Greek as well as in their own language - in common with Cypriot Armenians and Maronites today, so in a way at one time there was a common language. On the other had, there is a strong sense of national identity among the Swiss even though this country has four official languages, so the existence of a common language is not an absolute requirement for people to regard one another as compatriots


But it helps .


I agree.
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Postby bill cobbett » Sun May 31, 2009 3:42 pm

YFred wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:
zan wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:
zan wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:
zan wrote:
Kifeas wrote:
Byron wrote:Who said there was no such thing as Cypriotness? - Dryton

So how comes there is no common language !!!


Sorry Byron, but you have a very defective logic and I wouldn't recommend you to take an IQ test, as you will be very disappointed of the results. Who said to you that there must be a common language, for a country to exist as one unit to which all will feel allegiance to it? Does Switzerland have one common language? It has at least four, as a matter of fact! Don't they all feel Swiss, above all? Yes they do!


Are these OFFICIAL languages.... :roll:


Yes, Switzerland has four official languages.


Then a bit different to the picture painted of TCs...Not all by he way...Speaking Greek because of convenience. We taught Turkish in our schools and not Greek...Those in mixed villages, like my father, spoke both....Those in the North of Lefkosa and purely TC, like my mum, did not.


I hear what you are saying, but a great many elderly Turkish Cypriots are very fluent in the Greek Cypriot vernacular.


I got a lift with a tissy taxi driver here in London a few months ago. A youngish chap, in his thirties, who had lived for years, 'til recently in Kyrenia Town. He spoke the Cy dialect perfectly.

Given the large number of Tr based words in the dialect, this shouldn't have come as a surprise, but it did.


Which one?????


Axirtir mate!

Egames da mammurin re maymuni.


Reh pushtoui, thelo na tho dah kochania sou, eithemin tha fonaxo don Muhtari je don Szattiea.
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Postby Byron » Sun May 31, 2009 3:42 pm

Tim Drayton wrote:
zan wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:
zan wrote:
Kifeas wrote:
Byron wrote:Who said there was no such thing as Cypriotness? - Dryton

So how comes there is no common language !!!


Sorry Byron, but you have a very defective logic and I wouldn't recommend you to take an IQ test, as you will be very disappointed of the results. Who said to you that there must be a common language, for a country to exist as one unit to which all will feel allegiance to it? Does Switzerland have one common language? It has at least four, as a matter of fact! Don't they all feel Swiss, above all? Yes they do!


Are these OFFICIAL languages.... :roll:


Yes, Switzerland has four official languages.


Then a bit different to the picture painted of TCs...Not all by he way...Speaking Greek because of convenience. We taught Turkish in our schools and not Greek...Those in mixed villages, like my father, spoke both....Those in the North of Lefkosa and purely TC, like my mum, did not.


I hear what you are saying, but a great many elderly Turkish Cypriots are very fluent in the Greek Cypriot vernacular.


None of them were capable of writing Greek because it was not taught at school, why ? Is Turkish taught as a second language in Cyprus now ? I don't think so .
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Postby zan » Sun May 31, 2009 3:45 pm

Byron wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:
zan wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:
zan wrote:
Kifeas wrote:
Byron wrote:Who said there was no such thing as Cypriotness? - Dryton

So how comes there is no common language !!!


Sorry Byron, but you have a very defective logic and I wouldn't recommend you to take an IQ test, as you will be very disappointed of the results. Who said to you that there must be a common language, for a country to exist as one unit to which all will feel allegiance to it? Does Switzerland have one common language? It has at least four, as a matter of fact! Don't they all feel Swiss, above all? Yes they do!


Are these OFFICIAL languages.... :roll:


Yes, Switzerland has four official languages.


Then a bit different to the picture painted of TCs...Not all by he way...Speaking Greek because of convenience. We taught Turkish in our schools and not Greek...Those in mixed villages, like my father, spoke both....Those in the North of Lefkosa and purely TC, like my mum, did not.


I hear what you are saying, but a great many elderly Turkish Cypriots are very fluent in the Greek Cypriot vernacular.


None of them were capable of writing Greek because it was not taught at school, why ? Is Turkish taught as a second language in Cyprus now ? I don't think so .


My dad spoke Greek from birth, you could say, but in my house and every other TCs....The Turkish flag along side the Cypriot one. Attaturk pictures......Turkish radio, in the early years, and now Turkish television....I think my dad knew one GC song......
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Postby YFred » Sun May 31, 2009 3:49 pm

bill cobbett wrote:
YFred wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:
zan wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:
zan wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:
zan wrote:
Kifeas wrote:
Byron wrote:Who said there was no such thing as Cypriotness? - Dryton

So how comes there is no common language !!!


Sorry Byron, but you have a very defective logic and I wouldn't recommend you to take an IQ test, as you will be very disappointed of the results. Who said to you that there must be a common language, for a country to exist as one unit to which all will feel allegiance to it? Does Switzerland have one common language? It has at least four, as a matter of fact! Don't they all feel Swiss, above all? Yes they do!


Are these OFFICIAL languages.... :roll:


Yes, Switzerland has four official languages.


Then a bit different to the picture painted of TCs...Not all by he way...Speaking Greek because of convenience. We taught Turkish in our schools and not Greek...Those in mixed villages, like my father, spoke both....Those in the North of Lefkosa and purely TC, like my mum, did not.


I hear what you are saying, but a great many elderly Turkish Cypriots are very fluent in the Greek Cypriot vernacular.


I got a lift with a tissy taxi driver here in London a few months ago. A youngish chap, in his thirties, who had lived for years, 'til recently in Kyrenia Town. He spoke the Cy dialect perfectly.

Given the large number of Tr based words in the dialect, this shouldn't have come as a surprise, but it did.


Which one?????


Axirtir mate!

Egames da mammurin re maymuni.


Reh pushtoui, thelo na tho dah kochania sou, eithemin tha fonaxo don Muhtari je don Szattiea.

Re Pushdobillo je Pezzevengobett, inda bu thelis medon muhtarin, je bgo ine Szattiea?
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Postby bill cobbett » Sun May 31, 2009 3:56 pm

YFred wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:
YFred wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:
zan wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:
zan wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:
zan wrote:
Kifeas wrote:
Byron wrote:Who said there was no such thing as Cypriotness? - Dryton

So how comes there is no common language !!!


Sorry Byron, but you have a very defective logic and I wouldn't recommend you to take an IQ test, as you will be very disappointed of the results. Who said to you that there must be a common language, for a country to exist as one unit to which all will feel allegiance to it? Does Switzerland have one common language? It has at least four, as a matter of fact! Don't they all feel Swiss, above all? Yes they do!


Are these OFFICIAL languages.... :roll:


Yes, Switzerland has four official languages.


Then a bit different to the picture painted of TCs...Not all by he way...Speaking Greek because of convenience. We taught Turkish in our schools and not Greek...Those in mixed villages, like my father, spoke both....Those in the North of Lefkosa and purely TC, like my mum, did not.


I hear what you are saying, but a great many elderly Turkish Cypriots are very fluent in the Greek Cypriot vernacular.


I got a lift with a tissy taxi driver here in London a few months ago. A youngish chap, in his thirties, who had lived for years, 'til recently in Kyrenia Town. He spoke the Cy dialect perfectly.

Given the large number of Tr based words in the dialect, this shouldn't have come as a surprise, but it did.


Which one?????


Axirtir mate!

Egames da mammurin re maymuni.


Reh pushtoui, thelo na tho dah kochania sou, eithemin tha fonaxo don Muhtari je don Szattiea.

Re Pushdobillo je Pezzevengobett, inda bu thelis medon muhtarin, je bgo ine Szattiea?


Reh Freddie, seriously, isn't the dialect word for a policeman (sergeant) something like ... szaties? Derived from Tr? Just asking.
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