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[YFred]

Listen boys, just make sure it's a gift and not a loan. You know the sort that will have to be repaid post any settlement. Thank you.

Hosht.

[ahristos]

PARA PARA
HE SCREAMS TO ANKARA
HE IS INTERESTING ONLY FOR PARA AND NOTHING ALS

[bill cobbett]

Listen boys, just make sure it's a gift and not a loan. You know the sort that will have to be repaid post any settlement. Thank you.

Hosht.

WTF does hosh mean, you dumbar?

[YFred]

Listen boys, just make sure it's a gift and not a loan. You know the sort that will have to be repaid post any settlement. Thank you.

Hosht.

WTF does hosh mean, you dumbar?

Hosh means one thing, hosht means something else, which one?

[Kikapu]

@ Kikapu

Eroglu will get the dosh from turkey, even if it's not a 100 mil. Turkey always pays out it's the way they keep conrol.

@ Yfred

How the hell can you consider the TC's financial reliance on funds from Turkey as being in a "powerful" position?

Calm down Umit, I was trying to wind up Kiks. I fully appreciate the position TCs find themselves in. However TCs and in particular UBP have some very powerful friends in Ankara., you know what I mean? Where national pride is not measured in terms of YTL.

@ Kikapu

Eroglu will get the dosh from turkey, even if it's not a 100 mil. Turkey always pays out it's the way they keep conrol.

Maybe, then again, maybe not, Umit07. It all depends if Turkey needs anymore settlers to be given "TC citizenships" in order to make the voters of TC's impotent and meaningless, as the case was in the last elections in the north. In the past Turkey demanded in more settlers to be given "TC citizenships" while holding the 13th pay as a "ransom" which the useless pencil pushers took the money and gave away their TC voting power away to the settlers, but it seems like there are plenty of settlers at the moment masquerading as TC's to swing the votes in any future elections or referendums in which ever way Turkey wants the results to be, so I'm not so sure that Eroğlu will get what he wants. What more can Turkey get from the north that she does not already control.?

Calm down Umit, I was trying to wind up Kiks.

YFred, you couldn't wind up the rubber band on the propeller of your toy plane to save your life, let alone in trying to wind me up.!

YFred, please take note. For a while now, your posts have been without anything meaningful or substance in order for me to make it worth my while to respond to. You have become an "empty suit" lately, which is very disappointing to say the least. All you seem to do around the CF is try and take a little “peck” at people's posts in trying to annoy people without adding anything to their posts in a constructive way. You have become like a woodpecker who just pecks away all day long in the hopes that it will make a hole at some point, but unlike the woodpecker, you are not getting anything accomplished with your "pecking". I personally don't care how you want to make your posts, but just don't expect anyone to spend their time to respond to you in a serious way other than making some "pecking" themselves.!

[YFred]

@ Kikapu

Eroglu will get the dosh from turkey, even if it's not a 100 mil. Turkey always pays out it's the way they keep conrol.

@ Yfred

How the hell can you consider the TC's financial reliance on funds from Turkey as being in a "powerful" position?

Calm down Umit, I was trying to wind up Kiks. I fully appreciate the position TCs find themselves in. However TCs and in particular UBP have some very powerful friends in Ankara., you know what I mean? Where national pride is not measured in terms of YTL.

@ Kikapu

Eroglu will get the dosh from turkey, even if it's not a 100 mil. Turkey always pays out it's the way they keep conrol.

Maybe, then again, maybe not, Umit07. It all depends if Turkey needs anymore settlers to be given "TC citizenships" in order to make the voters of TC's impotent and meaningless, as the case was in the last elections in the north. In the past Turkey demanded in more settlers to be given "TC citizenships" while holding the 13th pay as a "ransom" which the useless pencil pushers took the money and gave away their TC voting power away to the settlers, but it seems like there are plenty of settlers at the moment masquerading as TC's to swing the votes in any future elections or referendums in which ever way Turkey wants the results to be, so I'm not so sure that Eroğlu will get what he wants. What more can Turkey get from the north that she does not already control.?

Calm down Umit, I was trying to wind up Kiks.

YFred, you couldn't wind up the rubber band on the propeller of your toy plane to save your life, let alone in trying to wind me up.!

YFred, please take note. For a while now, your posts have been without anything meaningful or substance in order for me to make it worth my while to respond to. You have become an "empty suit" lately, which is very disappointing to say the least. All you seem to do around the CF is try and take a little “peck” at people's posts in trying to annoy people without adding anything to their posts in a constructive way. You have become like a woodpecker who just pecks away all day long in the hopes that it will make a hole at some point, but unlike the woodpecker, you are not getting anything accomplished with your "pecking". I personally don't care how you want to make your posts, but just don't expect anyone to spend their time to respond to you in a serious way other than making some "pecking" themselves.!

Now I've gone and done it. My toy plane is broken and the elastic band is snapped.

Stop kidding yourself. The Cypriot mentality is set rock hard. Is there really anything to discuss, contribute in any useful way? Who is listening, all I see is a load of Hellenic bullshit one way and the replies the other and occasionally we have a little laugh, that’s all!

[Dr J]

Yep and its the Hellenic bullshit that got Greece its independence in 1821 and its the same kind of bullshit that will see us through to ridding our home of the Turks once again.

No matter what bullyboy tactics you use, you will not break us.

[Tim Drayton]

One of Yeni Düzen's top journalists, Cenk Mutluyakalı, writes from Ankara that

http://www.yeniduzengazetesi.com/templa ... &zoneid=19

“The UBP government’s Ankara visit has been more strained than was expected.”

It seems that negotiations with President Abdullah Gül and Prime-Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan took longer than planned, but “the replies to the ‘demands’ produced a ‘cold shower’ effect.”

Derviş Eroğlu apparently asked for an initial loan of TL 350 million.

However, “the Eroğlu government was reminded of the message conveyed to the people during the elections and was told that ‘unrealistic expectations in terms of what the budget could bear were created’ and that this was mistaken and dangerous.”

Apparently, “An ‘Economic Measures and Savings Package’ was placed before Prime-Minister and UBP General Chairman Dr. Derviş Eroğlu, who was unable to obtain any reply, be it positive or negative, to his request for an additional loan from Turkey."

The key points in this package are:

• Overtime to be eliminated unless absolutely necessary.
• 13th salary payments to be gradually eliminated. If it is deemed absolutely essential to pay 13th salaries, the TRNC government must find a source of funding itself.
• COLA to be scrapped.
• Contributions towards infrastructure investments to continue.
• Size of the public sector to be reduced. A freeze on public sector recruitment until targets that are to be set following a special study have been met.
• Studies to be undertaken into the feasibility of taxing pensions.
• Savings. Higher education grants and agricultural incentives to be revised.
• Privatisation of loss-making public enterprises, including Cyprus Turkish Airways and the Cyprus Turkish Electricity Authority.
• Absolutely no amnesties to be applied to Development Bank loans that are not repaid; legal proceedings to be taken instead.

(Translations of the quotes in the article are my own)

[Tim Drayton]

According to the Kıbrıs newspaper

http://www.kibrisgazetesi.com/popup.php ... c_Haberler

Eroglu is asking for TL 470 million in additional financial aid as well as a loan of TL 350 million.

[Jerry]

According to Frank in "trnc" things are not too good in the north even the petrol stations are under attack:-

Headlines. CTA plunges to the brink. Here we go with the negatives again. The government has admitted that both the airline and the Kibtek Electric authority are on the brink of collapse. Is this really so, or is the government trying to blame the outgoing government and get Turkey to open their wallet again. Further in the paper the editorial questions whether a country with a population of only 250,000 really needs a National Airline. Good question I think.

The Lapta municipality has issued a warning, that anybody using domestic water for pools or gardens can be fined up to 1,000 TL and have their water cut off. This is OK, but maybe the locals don't read the letters sent out or read the newspapers, only the Brits worry about water shortages.

Anybody remember when we were all using Getikale airport, whilst Ercan airport was updated. Well now Getikale has been closed for eight months. Why? Because the Electricity Authority has erected high voltage power lines in the area. Now what bright SPARK thought up that idea?

A motorist whose 1972 Ford Escort caught fire, drove in to a petrol station in Lefkosa on Tuesday evening. Another bright spark with a limited amount between the ears. Fortunately the forecourt staff grabbed extinguishers and put the fire out