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[Murtaza]

They have much problem with Ataturk, and this is so normal.
Ataturk is protector of us, but he is also destroyer of greeks.
Our independance war is their doom in anatolia.
So you should not wait them to love Ataturk.

[Main_Source]

So what now!! Don't tell me you got a problem about Ataturk!!

He coverted Cyprus and pushed for it's invasion back then...he was in charge of Turkey when it's peoples caused ethnic cleansing and genocide...he was an alcoholic... and the bit that amazes my why so many Turks seem to adore him is that he tried to kill of Turkish culture (he even outlawed wearing the fez! lol).

[Othellos]

So what now!! Don't tell me you got a problem about Ataturk!!

Just to let you know, some forum members have problems with anything that is Turkish.

Naah.....we just have a problem with Turkey's ongoing occupation of our lands and homes.

O.

[Main_Source]

Not anything Turkish...im partial to a Lahmacun on the odd occasion.

[metecyp]

He coverted Cyprus and pushed for it's invasion back then...he was in charge of Turkey when it's peoples caused ethnic cleansing and genocide...he was an alcoholic... and the bit that amazes my why so many Turks seem to adore him is that he tried to kill of Turkish culture (he even outlawed wearing the fez! lol).

You're really clueless...He never pushed Cyprus' invasion back then. He supposedly once said "Pay attention to Cyprus" which is anything but a declaration of invasion.

By ethnic cleansing, if you mean Armenians, he wasn't in charge but rather Young Turks were. If you mean defeat of Greek invaders in Western Anatolia was ethnic cleansing, yes he was in charge and don't expect us to feel sorry for that. FYI, many Turks also migrated from Greece at the time.

He didn't kill the Turkish culture but rather tried to seperate it from Arabic/Persian culture that dominated Ottomans. His main goal was to secularize Turkish people. He outlawed wearing the fez since it was an Arabic symbol. Would Turkey look more modern today with men wearing fez and all women covering their heads?? He introduced Latin alphabet and he introduced women rights in Turkey. Women could vote for the first time due to him before many other women around the world. And the list goes on...

[metecyp]

Naah.....we just have a problem with Turkey's ongoing occupation of our lands and homes.

I said some forum members not all. I don't know if you realized but in this forum Turks were accused of not being civilized, not knowing anything but stealing, not contributing to civilization...etc.

[Bananiot]

Kifeas said

Denktash’s genuine secret desire was to get a “yes” from the GCs. He assumed that had he campaigned in favour of a TC “yes,” most likely it would have resulted in a GC “No.” That is why he softly campaigned for a TC “no,” hoping that GCs would have been deceived and vote “Yes.” Unfortunately for him, he made an obvious miscalculation.

That is a good effort Kifeas but you know I presume, just as well as anyone, that your logic leaves a lot to be desired.

I am surprised you know nothing about the negotiations in New York. Obviously you are contented with what the spokesman tells us.

Isn't "lahmacun" an armenian dish?

[metecyp]

Isn't "lahmacun" an armenian dish?

That's what I thought as well. Even though many Turks are unaware of this fact.

[Kifeas]

Kifeas said

Denktash’s genuine secret desire was to get a “yes” from the GCs. He assumed that had he campaigned in favour of a TC “yes,” most likely it would have resulted in a GC “No.” That is why he softly campaigned for a TC “no,” hoping that GCs would have been deceived and vote “Yes.” Unfortunately for him, he made an obvious miscalculation.

That is a good effort Kifeas but you know I presume, just as well as anyone, that your logic leaves a lot to be desired.

I am surprised you know nothing about the negotiations in New York. Obviously you are contented with what the spokesman tells us.

Isn't "lahmacun" an armenian dish?

Bananiot, the only negotiations that occurred in NY, were in relation to the procedure of the talks and whether it would have been allowed to Kofi Annan to have the final role as an arbitrator. There were no negotiations on the substance of any version of the Annan plan.

[Main_Source]

By ethnic cleansing, if you mean Armenians, he wasn't in charge but rather Young Turks were. If you mean defeat of Greek invaders in Western Anatolia was ethnic cleansing, yes he was in charge and don't expect us to feel sorry for that. FYI, many Turks also migrated from Greece at the time.

How could he sit back and watch a genocide commited by his own people then, that he was supposed to rule?

and were the Greeks in Smyrna invaders? What about the Greeks in Pontus or the Feneriotes?..and why did he make all Greeks change their surnames to Turkish ones?

As for the quote on Cyprus...lets find it in full and examine what context it was said in.