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[garbitsch]

Turkish intervention was morally correct FOR the cause of Turkish Cypriots. Likewise, the events occured between 1963-1974 and prior to 1960 were morally correct FOR many Greek Cypriots. Should we hate each other just because how people think?

[Main_Source]

which events between 63-74? I dont find any of the actions of EOKA B morally correct.

As for the word 'intervention'...lets get it right. The invasion was more than that.

[garbitsch]

In July 1974, supporters of integration with Greece conspired in a Coup against President Archbishop Makarios. This resulted in a military intervention by Turkey, the landing of its troops in the northern part of the territory of Cyprus, and the de facto partition of the island. This led to large-scale population movements across the cease-fire line and more especially, from the northern to the southern part of the island. Since then, various efforts of the UN to come to a peace agreement took place, but the country is still divided. Nicosia, the capital, still has a wall like Berlin once had. The northern part of Cyprus has not been recognised by any country in the world, except for Turkey which is stationing there 30.000 military.

http://europa.eu.int/comm/enlargement/cyprus/

[Main_Source]

That quote must be written by a decendent of Ataturk or something.

[garbitsch]

Well.......

[Bananiot]

The conspiracy theory always finds a huge audience in the Greek world. Conspiracies make so much sense to us and we duly invent some in order to explain events. It is present day mythology I guess but it is astonishing how popular a "tool" it is.

Here is a person arguing in all seriousness that the brits conspired with the TC's to kill 4 GC villagers in Gyoneli in 1958. Is there another version of this horrible affair that led to the murder of the GC's and the role played by the brits? There is, but nobody in the Greek side wants to know, bar a few heretics, because this alternative destroys the myths and the lies we were brought up with.

Let me give you another example. Go back to 1920, Greece has invaded Turkey and the Greek army is doing very well mainly because Greek Prime Minister Eleftherios Venizelos has ensured, due to his prestige and pro west stand, the help or neutrality at worse of the then great powers. But, elections loomed and the opposition (Gounaris) campaigns on a ticket that the powers are conspiring against Greece. The Greeks are fascinated by this and duly kick Venizelos's back side. A year and a half later, with the powers switching alliance or at best staying neutral, the Greek army and a million or so Greeks are kicked out of Asia Minor and Venizelos returns from exile to salvage whatever can be salvaged. Eventually he signs a treaty of friendship with Kemal and a pack of no aggression.

Another example. Early 2004 and Cyprus, after 30 years, is on the brink of returning to calm waters. The opponents of the plan, headed by the government, embark on a campaign to destroy any chances for a lasting solution. The solution skeptics are desperate. They even go as far as to claim that a mere majority in the coming referendum should not be enough and want Parliament to decide that a 75% of the popular vote should be needed in order to accept the plan. In the meantime, the cries for an international conspiracy begin to pile. The west is conspiring against us. The United Nations and its black GS are conspiring against us. The whole world is conspiring against us. The Americans are pouring money in order to buy consciousness. Hanney and Vasiliou are buying Varoshia and setting up companies in order to exploit the after solution building boom etc. UNOPS is paying the traitors that seek to keep Cyprus a perpetual slave to Turkey. The list goes on and of course, the bad guys kick the back side of the good guys and Cyprus is saved. The fact that it has been permanently partitioned does not seem to matter at all. In fact, many believe that this is the way it should be, short of a total victory of the GC side.

[magikthrill]

bananiot you forgot to mention the huge sums of money you would be collecting starting mid-2004 had GCs been blind and the A Plan been accepted.

[cannedmoose]

bananiot you forgot to mention the huge sums of money you would be collecting starting mid-2004 had GCs been blind and the A Plan been accepted.

Am I missing a trick here... is Bananiot Vassiliou? You guys seem to know something about him that I don't...

[metecyp]

You guys seem to know something about him that I don't...

It's not that they know something about Bananiot, they assume a lot about Bananiot just because he doesn't agree with the majority and says things that challenge their beliefs.

[cannedmoose]

You guys seem to know something about him that I don't...

It's not that they know something about Bananiot, they assume a lot about Bananiot just because he doesn't agree with the majority and says things that challenge their beliefs.

Ah, I understand... Bananiot, if you are indeed Vassiliou, can I interview you...