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[Oracle]

How far should a State go in punishing people for insulting "ideas"?

2009-05-26
An Istanbul court is hearing a case against a Turkish author who is accused of insulting Islam in his latest book.
Nedim Gursel faces up to three years in prison if found guilty of charges of "humiliating religious values" and "inciting religious hatred" in his novel "The Daughters of Allah."

Gursel, who is based in France, is the latest intellectual to be prosecuted in Turkey under laws that restrict free-speech.

Source: Taiwan News

[paliometoxo]

e when a woman said kurdistan they put a warrent dfor her arrest they will never change the turks

[Oracle]

And this chap is in for it too ... according to our "secularist" Turk insan ...


Dutch lawmaker Geert Wilders is infamous for his anti-Islam comments

The Dutch Supreme Court has rejected a request by far-right lawmaker Geert Wilders to cancel his pending trial for the spread of Islamophobia.

"The attorney general is of the opinion that there are no grounds" for a further appeal, the court said in a statement on Wednesday.

The statement comes in response to a request by the lawyers of far-right lawmaker Geert Wilders to overturn a January ruling by the Amsterdam Court of Appeals -- the body that ordered the prosecution of Wilders for inciting hatred and encouraging discrimination against Muslims.

In June 2008, Wilders sparked outrage in the Muslim world by publishing an almost 17-minute video with the title Fitna, which featured scenes of terrorist attacks and violence interspersed with selected excerpts of Suras from the Qur'an.

Wilders also owes his ill-reputation largely to his comparison of Islam to Nazism and his calls for a ban on the Qur'an in the Netherlands -- a holy book he calls "fascist".

[insan]

Oracle, do u have the ability to discern the freedom of speech from hate speech, aimed to spread hatred and anatagonism? It is crystal clear to me that u don't have such a noble ability. U r a disgrace to Cyprus.

[Oracle]

Oracle, do u have the ability to discern the freedom of speech from hate speech, aimed to spread hatred and anatagonism? It is crystal clear to me that u don't have such a noble ability. U r a disgrace to Cyprus.

Freedom of speech is worth protecting. It is applicable everywhere. Religion is not!

If I were to choose between 'Conservation of Freedom' and 'Conservation of Religion' as ideologies ... I would choose Freedom. Because with that, people can be free to practice their religion (so long as it doesn't harm others) ...

Maybe deprived of Freedom, as you are, with the Kemalists ruling your every move, you choose the latter ... Religion.

But given pure Freedom ... would you have chosen Islam?

[insan]

Oracle, do u have the ability to discern the freedom of speech from hate speech, aimed to spread hatred and anatagonism? It is crystal clear to me that u don't have such a noble ability. U r a disgrace to Cyprus.

Freedom of speech is worth protecting. It is applicable everywhere. Religion is not!

If I were to choose between 'Conservation of Freedom' and 'Conservation of Religion' as ideologies ... I would choose Freedom. Because with that, people can be free to practice their religion (so long as it doesn't harm others) ...

Maybe deprived of Freedom, as you are, with the Kemalists ruling your every move, you choose the latter ... Religion.

But given pure Freedom ... would you have chosen Islam?

I chose the PEACE and freedom. U chose the so-called freedom of spreading hatred and anatagonism that can only cause strife and catastrophe. No human beings who have noble qualifications of being a human could consider spreading hatred and anatogonism as freedom of speech. Such "human beings" r disgrace for humanity. There's nothing they could contribute to humanity. They can only bring strife, sufferings and catastrophe to humanity.

[Oracle]

Oracle, do u have the ability to discern the freedom of speech from hate speech, aimed to spread hatred and anatagonism? It is crystal clear to me that u don't have such a noble ability. U r a disgrace to Cyprus.

Freedom of speech is worth protecting. It is applicable everywhere. Religion is not!

If I were to choose between 'Conservation of Freedom' and 'Conservation of Religion' as ideologies ... I would choose Freedom. Because with that, people can be free to practice their religion (so long as it doesn't harm others) ...

Maybe deprived of Freedom, as you are, with the Kemalists ruling your every move, you choose the latter ... Religion.

But given pure Freedom ... would you have chosen Islam?

I chose the PEACE and freedom. U chose the so-called freedom of spreading hatred and anatagonism that can only cause strife and catastrophe. No human beings who have noble qualifications of being a human could consider spreading hatred and anatogonism as freedom of speech. Such "human beings" r disgrace for humanity. There's nothing they could contribute to humanity. They can only bring strife, sufferings and catastrophe to humanity.

Really? ... How do you know I chose these things you have selected for me?

Are you by any chance trying to incite hatred against me? ... because I stand for something you little understand ... real freedom !

[Oracle]

Insan ... your panic is destroying your presentation

[insan]

Oracle, do u have the ability to discern the freedom of speech from hate speech, aimed to spread hatred and anatagonism? It is crystal clear to me that u don't have such a noble ability. U r a disgrace to Cyprus.

Freedom of speech is worth protecting. It is applicable everywhere. Religion is not!

If I were to choose between 'Conservation of Freedom' and 'Conservation of Religion' as ideologies ... I would choose Freedom. Because with that, people can be free to practice their religion (so long as it doesn't harm others) ...

Maybe deprived of Freedom, as you are, with the Kemalists ruling your every move, you choose the latter ... Religion.

But given pure Freedom ... would you have chosen Islam?

I chose the PEACE and freedom. U chose the so-called freedom of spreading hatred and anatagonism that can only cause strife and catastrophe. No human beings who have noble qualifications of being a human could consider spreading hatred and anatogonism as freedom of speech. Such "human beings" r disgrace for humanity. There's nothing they could contribute to humanity. They can only bring strife, sufferings and catastrophe to humanity.

Really? ... How do you know I chose these things you have selected for me?

Are you by any chance trying to incite hatred against me? ... because I stand for something you little understand ... real freedom !

Your attitudes clearly reveal what's ur personality and mentality are. I'm not trying to incite hatred towards u but I don't like persons like u. U r a criminalistic, psychologic and sociologic case to me... a hopleless case...

[insan]

Insan ... your panic is destroying your presentation

My panic abt what? U r really certifiably insane, Oracle.