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[Oracle]

.. I have set the parameters many times...

Those of us of Cypriot ethnicity are 100% dedicated to Cyprus. Our allegiance and love is 100% with/for Cyprus. We are Cypriot nationalists and won’t have it any other way. Our hearts and minds are not torn between two places.

We believe in the Cypriot way, the Cypriot souvla, and the Cypriot batsos!

Happy?

Hmmm .... All parameters which any Cyprus Settler can aspire to, without compromising much, if anything at all!

[miltiades]

I wonder if there is any other nation on earth whose nationals deny their nations identity in preference to that of a foreign country. The people of Malta are naturally Maltese and the people of Cyprus are Cypriots !
We have Greek Turkish and English as official languages , but surely we are predominantly Cypriots . I know I'm and so were my forefathers .
We are far more advanced socially than the Greeks or the Turks , why on earth do we want to be Greeks or Turks is beyond me. The Greek social structure is so dated , the rich look down on the not so rich and the not so rich in turn look down on the less well off . When it comes to us Cypriots , well they all look down on us until they meet me and boy do I put them in their place !!

[Oracle]

Pompous old fart ...

"We are far more advanced socially than the Greeks"

... "socially"? .... you mean you drink more!

[james_mav]

I wonder if there is any other nation on earth whose nationals deny their nations identity in preference to that of a foreign country. The people of Malta are naturally Maltese and the people of Cyprus are Cypriots !
We have Greek Turkish and English as official languages , but surely we are predominantly Cypriots . I know I'm and so were my forefathers .
We are far more advanced socially than the Greeks or the Turks , why on earth do we want to be Greeks or Turks is beyond me. The Greek social structure is so dated , the rich look down on the not so rich and the not so rich in turn look down on the less well off . When it comes to us Cypriots , well they all look down on us until they meet me and boy do I put them in their place !!

Cyprus is ruled by a communist party and Greece is the one with the outdated social system?!

[miltiades]

I wonder if there is any other nation on earth whose nationals deny their nations identity in preference to that of a foreign country. The people of Malta are naturally Maltese and the people of Cyprus are Cypriots !
We have Greek Turkish and English as official languages , but surely we are predominantly Cypriots . I know I'm and so were my forefathers .
We are far more advanced socially than the Greeks or the Turks , why on earth do we want to be Greeks or Turks is beyond me. The Greek social structure is so dated , the rich look down on the not so rich and the not so rich in turn look down on the less well off . When it comes to us Cypriots , well they all look down on us until they meet me and boy do I put them in their place !!

Cyprus is ruled by a communist party and Greece is the one with the outdated social system?!

Yes , Greece is . Have you traveled on their underground trains recently , are those signs still up " NO SPITTING " !!! Have you tried getting a taxi in Omonia recently do they still shove you out of the way !!
Who is that woman that they dig out every time they have a serious problem to tackle , you know the old bag head of the communist party.
Do the rich still employ servants to wash their feet , tell me its a few years since I travelled back in time !!

[miltiades]

Pompous old fart ...

"We are far more advanced socially than the Greeks"

... "socially"? .... you mean you drink more!

Still infatuated with the man , are you honey !!

[DT.]

Next person to tell me that you're not a Cypriot unless you denounce your Greek cultural and ethnic background is going to get a medieval treatment from me. I'm especially looking forward to many Cypriots that do not even live on this island to explain to me what being a Cypriot really is all about.

Don't pay any attention to us Cypriots that have gone to school, army, live and raise our kids here to have any clue about what being a Cypriot really is all about. FFS!

If people are insecure, unsure or just plain confused about their ethnic makeup they don't have to attack everyone else for not having the same defficiencies. As GR! said its all man made anyway, everyone has an opinion on what or who he/she is.

[The Cypriot]

What is "TRNCiotish"? I recognise neither the place nor the "ethnicity" associated with it.

Irrelevant.

It's not irrelevant. The point is Cyprus is recognised internationally as a nation in its own right. So you should recognise people's right to declare their Cypriot "ethnicity" if they so wish.

It's not a separatist "ethnicity". It's not an ethnicity established on stolen land, by force. And it's not foreign to Cyprus.

According to GR!'s theory for ethnicity, all one has to do is "say so" and it is done! It is then up to the TRNCiotish to spread it so that all become familiar with this new "say so" Ethnicity which resides on Cyprus (albeit it under the watchful eye of 40,000 troops).

Why are you equating the nation of Cyprus with the occupied part of the island controlled by Turkey's army? There is no TRNC, there is no TRNC nation, there is no TRNC "ethnicity". It's artificial. There's nothing artificial about being Cypriot. There is one Cyprus, one Cypriot nation, and if its people choose to be Cypriots, Jesus H. Christ, what is your problem with that?

"Ethnicity" is so 20th century. (I know how much you Hellenes prefer living in the glorious past but we've actually got to 2009 – that's AD not BC).

Don't patronise me.

Don't go on about "Hellenic" then. It's not for me thanks. I might feel patronised by it and respond in kind.

There are others with less achieving ethnicities who hang on to them as dearly.

I'm not prejudiced. They're no less fools. Loyalty to a place and not a "race" is far more in line with the global village we all live in. London and New York would not be the amazing, exciting cities they are if their citizens didn't cross-fertilise their diverse cultures to produce new, exciting, creative, vibrant, and constantly evolving cultures that bring us the best of all worlds. I'm proud to be a Londoner because of this.

Or are you going to bash us present day Hellenes because you do not feel comfortable living up to such a past?

Believe me, I'm up to it. That's why I think the way I do. Wisdom was the greatest gift the ancients bestowed on us. I'm aware of that. I'm proud of that.

That is your problem not mine. There are perfectly simple everyday things about our ethnicity I love, just as much as the glorious ones.

Whatever floats your boat, O. I'm not interested in anything that undermines and dilutes my sense of Cypriotness. Freedom and unity is the primary consideration. The only consideration. Are you a Cypriot? If you were, really, you'd know exactly what I was talking about.

However, if Cypriot citizens of Muslim extraction want to be treated like a discriminated "ethnic" minority then they can continue to draw attention to their difference. They can try and use foreign soldiers, foreign flags and whatever else is at their disposal to exclude and isolate themselves from opportunities afforded them by the civilised mainstream. But the discrimination against them will remain.

Why should you discriminate against them if they are a perfectly legitimate ethnicity having established themselves by GR!'s tried and tested "say so" criteria? You could be labelled racist!

You've lost me O. I refer you to the answer I gave above.

The nation is Cyprus. There can be no mercy shown for traitors to and enemies of a Cypriot nation still torn apart. They will be discriminated against using all peaceful and legal means available until Cyprus is reunited. That's not racism. That's patriotism. That's common sense.

If they want to join us in the 21st century they need to take their place as proud Cypriot citizens helping to build a modern, united European nation, at ease with itself, its former colonial masters and its future regional partners.

I'm sure they can do that! As the new ethnicity of Cyprus, they would have as much right to expound as you do this "Cypriot Ethnicity" which used to be just a political label ...

It's all about Reciprocity (as my dear GreekForumer used to say) ... if you want to establish a new ethnicity by "say so" ... you can't stop the Settlers doing the same ...

Perhaps there should be a Cypriot citizenship test to weed out such settlers whose allegiances lie with foreign nations. I'm confident I'd pass with flying colours. Would your dear GreekForumer? Would you?

[miltiades]

Epses epia esso tis patin patin chesfiroun chepia oshillostraos mestin avlin tou shirou !!
Is the above Greek or Cypriot I wonder !

[Get Real!]

Next person to tell me that you're not a Cypriot unless you denounce your Greek cultural and ethnic background is going to get a medieval treatment from me. I'm especially looking forward to many Cypriots that do not even live on this island to explain to me what being a Cypriot really is all about.

Don't pay any attention to us Cypriots that have gone to school, army, live and raise our kids here to have any clue about what being a Cypriot really is all about. FFS!

If people are insecure, unsure or just plain confused about their ethnic makeup they don't have to attack everyone else for not having the same defficiencies. As GR! said its all man made anyway, everyone has an opinion on what or who he/she is.

I’m intrigued now as to how you’re “connected” to Greeks… perhaps you might want to explain that to me next time we’re half-way down a bottle… you’ll need it!