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[Kifeas]

Ok, Kifeas, your power of reasoning up your a... never seizes to amaze.

Yeah, right!!! As much as your power of shying away and avoiding giving a reply when you are challenged with valid and logical arguments ...never ceases to amaze!

[polis]

Ok, Kifeas, your power of reasoning up your a... never seizes to amaze.

Yeah, right!!! As much as your power of shying away and avoiding giving a reply when you are challenged with valid and logical arguments ...never ceases to amaze!

Let me recap, mounopano. You said:

You only know how to fart nonesense and slogans that you hear in the "katichitika" ... when was the last time you attended a football match waving next to the Greek, the Svastika or Celtic cross flags ... throwing firecrackers in the playing grounds of football matches you attend, along with acts of hooliganism ... you only know how to make big farting noises and "patriotic" fanfare

... whereby I said:

Ok, Kifeas, your power of reasoning up your a... never seizes to amaze.

[miltiades]

This thread has reached rock bottom. Cypriot identity may be a myth in the eyes of a few but mindless Cypriot obscenity is alive and well in the mouths of many. Shame.

Yeap, after all "Aggouri ston kolon sou malaka ! Piene gamisou je men anakatonesse mes tous anthropus poushtopedo" is of course the way Cypriots conduct a civilized conversation.

When feeding a donkey you dont put its food on a plate MALAKA !
Examine your conscious come back and retract your offensive comments and this G/C's shoulders are broad enough to humbly shake hands . Insult this Cypriot and believe me I will .... just ignore you !!

Milt my friend, not only are your views highly offensive but you then revert to insults if someone challenges you. This is a public forum, whose members are hiding behind pseudonyms no less, and if you choose to turn an argument into a flaming contest that's what you'll get.

And as if your troubles are not enough, you get Kifeas lecturing you about putting arguments no one can confront. Eleos!

Polis , I'm well known n this forum , my favourite "insult" is to call someone a Plonker. I'm not known for using foul language and I never "strike " first. You chose from the beginning to insult me because of my views on my homelands credentials , views that have been formulated out of my love for my country of birth and the country that has given me the most precious and rewarding elements of my life , my grandchildren . I do not subscribe to the notion that Cyprus does not exist on its own merit and that it is an extension of the Hellenic world, on the other hand I have never disputed the fact that I'm a G/C and that some of my best friends are T/Cs.
I have a business here in the uk , www.devonscatering.co.uk , that has as apart of its client base numerous T/Cs that over the years I have come to know well and understand.
My older brother is also married to an English lady , her sister is married to a T/C so his children's children are half G/C half English , just as my children are , and have as first cousins the children of the T/C married to my sister in law,complicated but true. Having known " John" the T/C named Erdouan but called John , for many years now I have come to understand one fundamental human aspect , that all people are basically the same , same needs and wants same aspirations and concerns , the difference is how they face and how they deal with life's tribulations. The T/Cs are EXACTLY the same as us . Difference language , religion too but same in all other respects. " John" has a disabled child a girl of 19 years old , he also has two boys . He adores the girl and cant do enough for her , her condition is such that needs a tremendous amount of care , he is always there. Should I hate him because he is a T/C ? Do I get mad when some thoughtless individual adopts a signature that is offensive to "John" and all other T/Cs ? You bet I do.
Calm down , no more insults , I offer you my hand and apologies for all name calling , you should too.

[denizaksulu]

Sorry you are having problems with identity Deniz. Perhaps I can help. Your parents' mother tongue was Turkish, passed on to you. Your parents were Muslims, passed on to you. That you claim some relative married someone of another ethnicity at some point, may or may not contribute to your overall/partial ethnicity. But it makes no difference to your Nationality.

So, you may be ethnically Turkish, Cyprus-born with Cypriot citizenship (Nationality) if you recognise the RoC.

This is my take on it which would lead to the most harmony .....

Oh dearest Turk/TC hater; the only way to shut you up is to provide you with an ancestral lineage. I can not, but I am still a Cypriot whatever you say. Btw, I have no problem with my identity. That is a GCproblem and a few TC too.

Whats it to you anyway. You are half Greek. I think its you with the problem.

I am sorry you see fit to take the ethnicity view as paramount to all I said. But I guess, what irks, is that you have to recognise the RoC to claim to be a Cypriot, for the sake of harmony.

Your 'racist' comment, if I took it to extreme, would make me more GC not less. But a whole Cypriot is my Nationality, and that is the way modern Cyprus has gone.

The Cypriot Nationality represents citizens committed to democracy, from all walks, and where all are equal and respect the ethnic/human rights of others. I am sorry you do not see fit to view yourself as a Cypriot National ... for that is all you can claim, and that is a heftily substantial honour.

So, by you telling me I cannot have a say on matters Cypriot, because I am half Greek i.e. because of my ethnicity, makes you one of the biggest 'racists' currently doing the rounds on the forum ....

Nowhere in my posts have I rejected the RoC.

I may not be a Cypriot National, my ID was removed in 1964 by the officials at the airport. But should I wish to, I do not doubt that I could get the piece of paper making me a citizen of Cyprus. That would have no bearing on my Cypriotness. Perhaps thousands of east Europeans have the said pice of paper. It does not make them more Cypriot myself.

I am no racist, but you seem to enjoy dictating to all.

All I expected you to say was that you in fact were a Cypriot. I had no issue with that; if that is what you felt you are.

But, likewise you are no more a Cypriot National than the East Europeans you refer to, who may have legal Cypriot Nationality. I have already explained to you, and perhaps you can pass it on to some TCs, that all those with Cypriot Nationality, under our democracy are EQUAL. What I do not desire is a return to the days when TCs were 'worth' more than any other legal Cypriot National, by virtue of governmental control.

You still seem to have trouble accepting everyone is now equal, once they have legal Cypriot Nationality Don't resent those legal Cypriot Nationals, just because they are East European and you think you are more "equal" because you call yourself of Cypriot ethnicity. They have had to earn it, at least, by respecting the RoC as the government of Cyprus.

May I suggest you follow Miltiades, and ponder over what it means to acquire Cypriot Nationality, above your ethnicity .... and forget these euphemisms of degrees of Cypriotness, as we have covered all that before.

O, you delibarately confuse the piece of paper given to east europeans and Cypriotness. Shame really.

Some TCs have other issues. I will not dictate to them how they should feel. I know how I feel and what I am. I certainly do not need you or any other to tell me what I am.

I hope you enjoyed todays weather.

On the contrary it is you who assumes superiority to those legal Nationals who value that "piece" of paper which identifies them as friends of Cyprus, not foes.

Perhaps if more of your fellows stop banding Cypriotnesss around as some excuse to vandalise Cyprus, they may be dragged into the democratic, equal society which Cypriot Nationals do so enjoy these days ...

(And as for the weather, Gothic buildings do not look as stunning in brilliant sunshine ).

Thats Oxbridge for you. Dont blame me for that too.

[Kifeas]

Polaki mou, whatever I have to say, is there in the forum for anyone to read! What we cannot find and read -appart from your empty slogans, is what you have to say!

[polis]

This thread has reached rock bottom. Cypriot identity may be a myth in the eyes of a few but mindless Cypriot obscenity is alive and well in the mouths of many. Shame.

Yeap, after all "Aggouri ston kolon sou malaka ! Piene gamisou je men anakatonesse mes tous anthropus poushtopedo" is of course the way Cypriots conduct a civilized conversation.

When feeding a donkey you dont put its food on a plate MALAKA !
Examine your conscious come back and retract your offensive comments and this G/C's shoulders are broad enough to humbly shake hands . Insult this Cypriot and believe me I will .... just ignore you !!

Milt my friend, not only are your views highly offensive but you then revert to insults if someone challenges you. This is a public forum, whose members are hiding behind pseudonyms no less, and if you choose to turn an argument into a flaming contest that's what you'll get.

And as if your troubles are not enough, you get Kifeas lecturing you about putting arguments no one can confront. Eleos!

Polis , I'm well known n this forum , my favourite "insult" is to call someone a Plonker. I'm not known for using foul language and I never "strike " first. You chose from the beginning to insult me because of my views on my homelands credentials , views that have been formulated out of my love for my country of birth and the country that has given me the most precious and rewarding elements of my life , my grandchildren . I do not subscribe to the notion that Cyprus does not exist on its own merit and that it is an extension of the Hellenic world, on the other hand I have never disputed the fact that I'm a G/C and that some of my best friends are T/Cs.
I have a business here in the uk , www.devonscatering.co.uk , that has as apart of its client base numerous T/Cs that over the years I have come to know well and understand.
My older brother is also married to an English lady , her sister is married to a T/C so his children's children are half G/C half English , just as my children are , and have as first cousins the children of the T/C married to my sister in law,complicated but true. Having known " John" the T/C named Erdouan but called John , for many years now I have come to understand one fundamental human aspect , that all people are basically the same , same needs and wants same aspirations and concerns , the difference is how they face and how they deal with life's tribulations. The T/Cs are EXACTLY the same as us . Difference language , religion too but same in all other respects. " John" has a disabled child a girl of 19 years old , he also has two boys . He adores the girl and cant do enough for her , her condition is such that needs a tremendous amount of care , he is always there. Should I hate him because he is a T/C ? Do I get mad when some thoughtless individual adopts a signature that is offensive to "John" and all other T/Cs ? You bet I do.
Calm down , no more insults , I offer you my hand and apologies for all name calling , you should too.

Fair enough, Milt. You really cannot (and should not) be taking what's said in this forum seriously, let alone personally; and surely you cannot think that indeed what is said is meant seriously let alone pesronally.

And now on a lighter note: surely the T/C's and TT/C's and the T/T's and the like, are the same as us (being human and all) and indeed with some of them we share many things in common, like we share things in common (god forbid) with the likes of Kifeas, coming from the same country and all, just like we are the same as the Ruskies and the Poles, and the Brits and the Frogs, being all human and all, only the former piece of shits happen to be occyping my home and I really take offence to that. So as long as they continue to occupy my country, or condone, promote or support that occupation, they really are any good only when they are dead.

[polis]

Polaki mou, whatever I have to say, is there in the forum for anyone to read! What we cannot find and read -appart from your empty slogans, is what you have to say!

I've just quoted you, shitface.

[Viewpoint]

Is this moron for real? We TCs are occupying our country.

[polis]

Is this moron for real? We TCs are occupying our country.

You just keep your lookout for the arrows and you are ok.

[Viewpoint]

Is this moron for real? We TCs are occupying our country.

You just keep your lookout for the arrows and you are ok.

Definately you can never trust people like you.