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[EPSILON]

You tell him mate !!
Another one that sussed the Plonker out !!

You're the miscegenating traitor and I'm a plonker?

You are not only a Plonker you are a thick Plonker !!
Ai gamisou malaka !!

You should really put it in your signature that you're married to a turk so that the malakies you spout forth can be taken in context.

Well,well, more secrets for Milti? Is this trough? is he married with a Turkish woman? Then i have to apologise to him -he is right.His childs (if he has) are of course of Cyprus Ethnos. But such people must be maximum 10 in this earth.

OPOS TON FANTIN PASTOUNI !!! Kalos irthes Pousthokalamara !!
LONG LIVE THE CYPRIOT ETHNOS !!

NASE KALA RE XEROJIEFALE KYPREO

[Kifeas]

Miltiades, I also got involved in this thread, and I also used insulting language, yet, if you have noticed they only pick up and respond to you but avoid picking up a row with me. Do you know why?

The reason is because besides the insulting language, I also put across them some very essential and valid arguments which they cannot confront, that is why they choose not to challenge me further. In your case, besides the vulgar language, you only offer nonsensical and meaningless slogans which they counter with equally nonsensical slogans and abusive language, and that is why they choose to continue the row with you. I wonder why you decided to put "kalamarades" in your slogans, since they have not been mentioned in this discussion and have nothing to do with these people. It seems to me that you are also an empty sloganeer, just like these people that you have picked up a fight with. Do you think these people can be silenced with mere slogans and insults? No, they are not! I am sure if you had also been able to offer concrete and unchallenging arguments, you would have silenced them too!

[miltiades]

This thread has reached rock bottom. Cypriot identity may be a myth in the eyes of a few but mindless Cypriot obscenity is alive and well in the mouths of many. Shame.

Yeap, after all "Aggouri ston kolon sou malaka ! Piene gamisou je men anakatonesse mes tous anthropus poushtopedo" is of course the way Cypriots conduct a civilized conversation.

When feeding a donkey you dont put its food on a plate MALAKA !
Examine your conscious come back and retract your offensive comments and this G/C's shoulders are broad enough to humbly shake hands . Insult this Cypriot and believe me I will .... just ignore you !!

[polis]

Miltiades, I also got involved in this thread, and I also used insulting language, yet, if you have noticed they only pick up and respond to you but avoid picking up a row with me. Do you know why?

The reason is because besides the insulting language, I also put across them some very essential and valid arguments which they cannot confront, that is why they choose not to challenge me further... I am sure if you had also been able to offer concrete and unchallenged arguments, you would have silenced them too!

As we say in Greek, kaqe pouli me th fwnh tou xairetai - or as they say in eteocypriot "Kaqe poullin me thn fwnhn tou sxieretai" (it's a Greek saying about blowing one's trumpet).

[miltiades]

Miltiades, I also got involved in this thread, and I also used insulting language, yet, if you have noticed they only pick up and respond to you but avoid picking up a row with me. Do you know why?

The reason is because besides the insulting language, I also put across them some very essential and valid arguments which they cannot confront, that is why they choose not to challenge me further. In your case, besides the vulgar language, you only offer nonsensical and meaningless slogans which they counter with equally nonsensical slogans and abusive language, and that is why they choose to continue the row with you. I wonder why you decided to put "kalamarades" in your slogans, since they have not been mentioned in this discussion and have nothing to do with these people. It seems to me that you are also an empty sloganeer, just like these people that you have picked up a fight with. Do you think these people can be silenced with mere slogans and insults? No, they are not! I am sure if you had also been able to offer concrete and unchallenging arguments, you would have silenced them too!

Kifeas , there are some people that you have to deal with on their own level. They ignored you when you reacted to that horrid signature , I came on board and I took them on. I dont pick verbals with anyone I challenge absurd , racist and nonconstructive views. These people are offensive to Cyprus , they have the audacity to dispute the existence of the Cypriot identity , why on earth should I or any other Cypriot put up with this.
These people are dedicated kalamarades , my age group called all Greeks from Greece kalamarades not in a derogatory sense at all this is how we referred to them.
These guys are of the same school as those who brought upon Cyprus its biggest historical catastrophe , they have to be challenged in the only way they understand. No sensible debate will convince those supporters of that disgusting signature that they are wrong , that their actions are defamatory to Cyprus's image and a propaganda tool in Turkish hands.
I will not desist from challenging them , I have vested interests in the welfare of my island , my family , your family and the families of all decent peace loving Cypriots. Why allow fanatics the space to parade their hatred , to facilitate the formidable addition to the Turkish propaganda arsenal.
The extremists amongst T/Cs must never be given the golden opportunity of castigating ALL G/Cs as people that they can not live with and therefore only partition is feasible. There are many Miltiadeses in Cyprus in the diaspora , their voices must be heard.

[Kifeas]

Miltiades, I also got involved in this thread, and I also used insulting language, yet, if you have noticed they only pick up and respond to you but avoid picking up a row with me. Do you know why?

The reason is because besides the insulting language, I also put across them some very essential and valid arguments which they cannot confront, that is why they choose not to challenge me further. In your case, besides the vulgar language, you only offer nonsensical and meaningless slogans which they counter with equally nonsensical slogans and abusive language, and that is why they choose to continue he row with you. I wonder why you decided to put "kalamarades" in your slogans, since they have not been mentioned in this discussion and have nothing to do with these people. It seems to me that you are also an empty sloganeer, just like these people that you have picked up a fight with. Do you think these people can be silenced with mere slogans and insults? No, they are not! I am sure if you had also been able to offer concrete and unchallenged arguments, you would have silenced them too!

As we say in Greek, kaqe pouli me th fwnh tou xairetai - or as they say in eteocypriot "Kaqe poullin me thn fwnhn tou shieretai" (it's a Greek saying about blowing one's trumpet).

Polaki, I challenged you and your friend, James_mav, to tell us what kind of a solution you envision in Cyprus, and how you suggest we bring it about, and you both miserably failed to utter a word as a reply. I am not expecting you to be able to do so, since you have no arguments and no case to make. You only know how to fart nonesense and slogans that you hear in the "katichitika" you attend, without knowing at all what is trully at stake and what you are aiming at! Polaki, when was the last time you attended a football match waving next to the Greek, the Svastika or Celtic cross flags, and wearing Grivas T-shirts? Two – three weeks ago? What else do you have to offer, besides nationalist slogans? Do you think the Turks will leave Cyprus and run away so that we will achieve your utopean solution ideas, only because they see you throwing firecrackers in the playing grounds of football matches you attend, along with acts of hooliganism? Tell us "Polaki," what is it that you suggest? Do you know, or you only know how to make big farting noises and "patriotic" fanfare? C’mon, show us your “lights!”

[polis]

This thread has reached rock bottom. Cypriot identity may be a myth in the eyes of a few but mindless Cypriot obscenity is alive and well in the mouths of many. Shame.

Yeap, after all "Aggouri ston kolon sou malaka ! Piene gamisou je men anakatonesse mes tous anthropus poushtopedo" is of course the way Cypriots conduct a civilized conversation.

When feeding a donkey you dont put its food on a plate MALAKA !
Examine your conscious come back and retract your offensive comments and this G/C's shoulders are broad enough to humbly shake hands . Insult this Cypriot and believe me I will .... just ignore you !!

Milt my friend, not only are your views highly offensive but you then revert to insults if someone challenges you. This is a public forum, whose members are hiding behind pseudonyms no less, and if you choose to turn an argument into a flaming contest that's what you'll get.

And as if your troubles are not enough, you get Kifeas lecturing you about putting arguments no one can confront. Eleos (mercy)!

[denizaksulu]

Sorry you are having problems with identity Deniz. Perhaps I can help. Your parents' mother tongue was Turkish, passed on to you. Your parents were Muslims, passed on to you. That you claim some relative married someone of another ethnicity at some point, may or may not contribute to your overall/partial ethnicity. But it makes no difference to your Nationality.

So, you may be ethnically Turkish, Cyprus-born with Cypriot citizenship (Nationality) if you recognise the RoC.

This is my take on it which would lead to the most harmony .....

Oh dearest Turk/TC hater; the only way to shut you up is to provide you with an ancestral lineage. I can not, but I am still a Cypriot whatever you say. Btw, I have no problem with my identity. That is a GCproblem and a few TC too.

Whats it to you anyway. You are half Greek. I think its you with the problem.

I am sorry you see fit to take the ethnicity view as paramount to all I said. But I guess, what irks, is that you have to recognise the RoC to claim to be a Cypriot, for the sake of harmony.

Your 'racist' comment, if I took it to extreme, would make me more GC not less. But a whole Cypriot is my Nationality, and that is the way modern Cyprus has gone.

The Cypriot Nationality represents citizens committed to democracy, from all walks, and where all are equal and respect the ethnic/human rights of others. I am sorry you do not see fit to view yourself as a Cypriot National ... for that is all you can claim, and that is a heftily substantial honour.

So, by you telling me I cannot have a say on matters Cypriot, because I am half Greek i.e. because of my ethnicity, makes you one of the biggest 'racists' currently doing the rounds on the forum ....

Nowhere in my posts have I rejected the RoC.

I may not be a Cypriot National, my ID was removed in 1964 by the officials at the airport. But should I wish to, I do not doubt that I could get the piece of paper making me a citizen of Cyprus. That would have no bearing on my Cypriotness. Perhaps thousands of east Europeans have the said pice of paper. It does not make them more Cypriot myself.

I am no racist, but you seem to enjoy dictating to all.

All I expected you to say was that you in fact were a Cypriot. I had no issue with that; if that is what you felt you are.

But, likewise you are no more a Cypriot National than the East Europeans you refer to, who may have legal Cypriot Nationality. I have already explained to you, and perhaps you can pass it on to some TCs, that all those with Cypriot Nationality, under our democracy are EQUAL. What I do not desire is a return to the days when TCs were 'worth' more than any other legal Cypriot National, by virtue of governmental control.

You still seem to have trouble accepting everyone is now equal, once they have legal Cypriot Nationality Don't resent those legal Cypriot Nationals, just because they are East European and you think you are more "equal" because you call yourself of Cypriot ethnicity. They have had to earn it, at least, by respecting the RoC as the government of Cyprus.

May I suggest you follow Miltiades, and ponder over what it means to acquire Cypriot Nationality, above your ethnicity .... and forget these euphemisms of degrees of Cypriotness, as we have covered all that before.

O, you delibarately confuse the piece of paper given to east europeans and Cypriotness. Shame really.

Some TCs have other issues. I will not dictate to them how they should feel. I know how I feel and what I am. I certainly do not need you or any other to tell me what I am.

I hope you enjoyed todays weather.

[Oracle]

Sorry you are having problems with identity Deniz. Perhaps I can help. Your parents' mother tongue was Turkish, passed on to you. Your parents were Muslims, passed on to you. That you claim some relative married someone of another ethnicity at some point, may or may not contribute to your overall/partial ethnicity. But it makes no difference to your Nationality.

So, you may be ethnically Turkish, Cyprus-born with Cypriot citizenship (Nationality) if you recognise the RoC.

This is my take on it which would lead to the most harmony .....

Oh dearest Turk/TC hater; the only way to shut you up is to provide you with an ancestral lineage. I can not, but I am still a Cypriot whatever you say. Btw, I have no problem with my identity. That is a GCproblem and a few TC too.

Whats it to you anyway. You are half Greek. I think its you with the problem.

I am sorry you see fit to take the ethnicity view as paramount to all I said. But I guess, what irks, is that you have to recognise the RoC to claim to be a Cypriot, for the sake of harmony.

Your 'racist' comment, if I took it to extreme, would make me more GC not less. But a whole Cypriot is my Nationality, and that is the way modern Cyprus has gone.

The Cypriot Nationality represents citizens committed to democracy, from all walks, and where all are equal and respect the ethnic/human rights of others. I am sorry you do not see fit to view yourself as a Cypriot National ... for that is all you can claim, and that is a heftily substantial honour.

So, by you telling me I cannot have a say on matters Cypriot, because I am half Greek i.e. because of my ethnicity, makes you one of the biggest 'racists' currently doing the rounds on the forum ....

Nowhere in my posts have I rejected the RoC.

I may not be a Cypriot National, my ID was removed in 1964 by the officials at the airport. But should I wish to, I do not doubt that I could get the piece of paper making me a citizen of Cyprus. That would have no bearing on my Cypriotness. Perhaps thousands of east Europeans have the said pice of paper. It does not make them more Cypriot myself.

I am no racist, but you seem to enjoy dictating to all.

All I expected you to say was that you in fact were a Cypriot. I had no issue with that; if that is what you felt you are.

But, likewise you are no more a Cypriot National than the East Europeans you refer to, who may have legal Cypriot Nationality. I have already explained to you, and perhaps you can pass it on to some TCs, that all those with Cypriot Nationality, under our democracy are EQUAL. What I do not desire is a return to the days when TCs were 'worth' more than any other legal Cypriot National, by virtue of governmental control.

You still seem to have trouble accepting everyone is now equal, once they have legal Cypriot Nationality Don't resent those legal Cypriot Nationals, just because they are East European and you think you are more "equal" because you call yourself of Cypriot ethnicity. They have had to earn it, at least, by respecting the RoC as the government of Cyprus.

May I suggest you follow Miltiades, and ponder over what it means to acquire Cypriot Nationality, above your ethnicity .... and forget these euphemisms of degrees of Cypriotness, as we have covered all that before.

O, you delibarately confuse the piece of paper given to east europeans and Cypriotness. Shame really.

Some TCs have other issues. I will not dictate to them how they should feel. I know how I feel and what I am. I certainly do not need you or any other to tell me what I am.

I hope you enjoyed todays weather.

On the contrary it is you who assumes superiority to those legal Nationals who value that "piece" of paper which identifies them as friends of Cyprus, not foes.

Perhaps if more of your fellows stop banding Cypriotnesss around as some excuse to vandalise Cyprus, they may be dragged into the democratic, equal society which Cypriot Nationals do so enjoy these days ...

(And as for the weather, Gothic buildings do not look as stunning in brilliant sunshine ).

[polis]

Yeap, now here are a load of very essential and valid arguments which no one can confront:

You only know how to fart nonesense and slogans that you hear in the "katichitika" ... when was the last time you attended a football match waving next to the Greek, the Svastika or Celtic cross flags ... throwing firecrackers in the playing grounds of football matches you attend, along with acts of hooliganism ... you only know how to make big farting noises and "patriotic" fanfare

Ok, Kifeas, your power of reasoning up your a... never seizes to amaze.