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[miltiades]

And once you accept you are Hellenic GR! ... you can stop bashing Greeks and stop fighting on two fronts and maybe make some headway to removing the one clear and present dangerous enemy, which is Turkey.

Simple ...

The probability that I’ll start taking advice on such matters from a half-baked "Cypriot" mongrel is ZERO.

HALF BAKED CYPRIOT MONGREL !!!!
Hey I first called her a mongrel !

[miltiades]

A Cypriot is a citizen of Cyprus who has allegiance to the RoC. He can be of Greek, Russian, Armenian etc extraction. Just like Greeks are citizens of Greece but may be of American, Egyptian etc extraction.

Simple really ....

Good morning sweety. I noticed your mistake of forgetting to list Turksh Cypriots as Cypriots. Old age catching up methinks. .

You do not exist in the minds of such ...mongrels Deniz !!!

[halil]

A Cypriot is a citizen of Cyprus who has allegiance to the RoC. He can be of Greek, Russian, Armenian etc extraction. Just like Greeks are citizens of Greece but may be of American, Egyptian etc extraction.

Simple really ....

Good morning sweety. I noticed your mistake of forgetting to list Turksh Cypriots as Cypriots. Old age catching up methinks. .

halil said Turkish Cypriots did not come into existence until 1960 ... We are discussing deep roots here ... and not just latter day political groupings.

MANIPULATER ORACLE

Halil says he doesn't care what was happened 9000 years ago ..... he does not care at all what was happened 400 years ago .....

As a Turkish Cypriot he cares what was happened in 1960 ..... he cares what was happened between 1963-1974 ..... he cares what is happening now .....

Cyprus was independent country in 1960 .... It was the Cyprus got her own independency .... it was the time that conflicts will finish in this island .... there was a country called Cyprus .... There was a country with one flag and single citizanship for TC's ,GC's ,Cypriot Armanians ,Cypriot Maronites and for others ..... Your ignorancy spoiled it . Your hunger destroyed it in 1963 .... I know you will start to find all known excuses again..... for those resones Halil says i don't care for all .....

[Oracle]

Despite all that rubbish halil, with which you try to blur and backtrack ... you did simply say you did not become a Turkish Cypriot until 1960 ...

For me my history as a Turkish Cypriot start from 1960 to present day .

That is a very shallow statement Halil

So what were you before 1960? Turkish or Ottoman?

[humanist]

very interesting discussion .... thank you group I thoroughly enjoyed it. am just a Kipreo ..... who happens to live in Australia at the moment .......respecting, loving and enjoying this beuatiful country I now call home sweet home

[denizaksulu]

And once you accept you are Hellenic GR! ... you can stop bashing Greeks and stop fighting on two fronts and maybe make some headway to removing the one clear and present dangerous enemy, which is Turkey.

Simple ...

The probability that I’ll start taking advice on such matters from a half-baked "Cypriot" mongrel is ZERO.

HALF BAKED CYPRIOT MONGREL !!!!
Hey I first called her a mongrel !

How the world changes. I remember the days years (almost) ago when GR introduced Phoenix as a most 'remarkable' lady. I thought GR was crazy then, now He has come to his senses.

[denizaksulu]

Despite all that rubbish halil, with which you try to blur and backtrack ... you did simply say you did not become a Turkish Cypriot until 1960 ...

For me my history as a Turkish Cypriot start from 1960 to present day .

That is a very shallow statement Halil

So what were you before 1960? Turkish or Ottoman?

I strongly suspect a major part of me was Cypriot pre-1571. My grandmothers nickname was a geographical location in Southern Cyprus Possibly Latin origin. I wish there was a ay I could find out - apart from DNA studies.

[halil]

Before 1960 there was no ROC lady O ........ Yes for me History of ROC and my history started from 1960 . Before 1960 Cyprus was ruled by many rulers . After 1960 new history chapter was open in Cyprus .Turkish Cypriots ,Greekcypriots were under the same constitution. And Consitution explain very clearly TC and GC positions .


APPENDIX D
DRAFT CONSTITUTION OF THE REPUBLIC OF CYPRUS
PART I. ¬ GENERAL PROVISIONS
ARTICLE 1

The State of Cyprus is an independent and sovereign Republic with a presidential regime, the President being Greek and the Vice¬President being Turk elected by the Greek and the Turkish Communities of Cyprus respectively as hereinafter in this Constitution provided.

ARTICLE 2

For the purposes of this Constitution ¬


(1) the Greek Community comprises all citizens of the Republic who are of Greek origin and whose mother tongue is Greek or who share the Greek cultural traditions or who are members of the Greek¬Orthodox Church;

(2) the Turkish Community comprises all citizens of the Republic who are of Turkish origin and whose mother tongue is Turkish or who share the Turkish cultural traditions or who are Moslems;


Introduction
PART III
NOTES ON DOCUMENTS ANNEXED
THE SMALLER RELIGIOUS GROUPS

29. The Armenians, Maronites and Latins constitute three separate religious groups in the island. A statement by Her Majesty's Government on constitutional safeguards for these groups in accordance with paragraph B (2) (i) of the United Kingdom Declaration made at the London Conference of February, 1959 (Document III of Cmnd. 679) is at Appendix E to this Paper. This statement has been accepted by Archbishop Makarios and Dr. Kutchuk.

[DT.]

Before 1960 there was no ROC lady O ........ Yes for me History of ROC and my history started from 1960 . Before 1960 Cyprus was ruled by many rulers . After 1960 new history chapter was open in Cyprus .Turkish Cypriots ,Greekcypriots were under the same constitution. And Consitution explain very clearly TC and GC positions .


APPENDIX D
DRAFT CONSTITUTION OF THE REPUBLIC OF CYPRUS
PART I. ¬ GENERAL PROVISIONS
ARTICLE 1

The State of Cyprus is an independent and sovereign Republic with a presidential regime, the President being Greek and the Vice¬President being Turk elected by the Greek and the Turkish Communities of Cyprus respectively as hereinafter in this Constitution provided.

ARTICLE 2

For the purposes of this Constitution ¬


(1) the Greek Community comprises all citizens of the Republic who are of Greek origin and whose mother tongue is Greek or who share the Greek cultural traditions or who are members of the Greek¬Orthodox Church;

(2) the Turkish Community comprises all citizens of the Republic who are of Turkish origin and whose mother tongue is Turkish or who share the Turkish cultural traditions or who are Moslems;


Introduction
PART III
NOTES ON DOCUMENTS ANNEXED
THE SMALLER RELIGIOUS GROUPS

29. The Armenians, Maronites and Latins constitute three separate religious groups in the island. A statement by Her Majesty's Government on constitutional safeguards for these groups in accordance with paragraph B (2) (i) of the United Kingdom Declaration made at the London Conference of February, 1959 (Document III of Cmnd. 679) is at Appendix E to this Paper. This statement has been accepted by Archbishop Makarios and Dr. Kutchuk.

What about when the British ruled Halil? Where they ruling 2 different islands?

[The Cypriot]

Or he can be of Cypriot extraction. Like my bapu was.

You're confusing a political construct with ethnicity. Apart from in the minds of foreigners and bolsheviks, there is no separate Cypriot ethnos: there are Greeks, and turks. Latins, Armenians, arabs, Russians, etc who also live on Cyprus (even if they are citizens of Cyprus) are un-assimilated migrants, and quite clearly belong to their own ethnos.

Think of the natural evolution of the European Union - if things go according to plan, national borders, laws, currencies, and institutions (perhaps even military ones) will slowly disappear; less and less what makes a Greek will be the Greek nation-state, but rather the Hellenic ethnos. Ditto for Cyprus, except of course there is no distinct Cypriot ethnos, ergo, you're either Greeks or Turks!

And no, mispronouncing and misspelling παπού does not make you any less Greek and any more Cypriot.

Aparon me din vagla!