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[miltiades]

What on earth is kolaouzo!! Some sort of aperitif no doubt !!

Golauzin means 'signpost' I think...

I dont think so , it sounds foreign to me , definitely not Cypriot !!

Where as "to", "kalo", "xwrio", "den" and "qelei" are definitely Cypriot!

How does it feel to wake up every morning and realise you are still an idiot?

Much better than waking up and realizing , as you do , that you are full of shit !

I'd say waking up an idiot every morning would be worse.

You too then is full of shit , I guessed as much from your first post , your detestable ex-signature and your worthless contributions to the forum, still one a Plonker always a Plonker hey boy ?

[james_mav]

What on earth is kolaouzo!! Some sort of aperitif no doubt !!

Golauzin means 'signpost' I think...

I dont think so , it sounds foreign to me , definitely not Cypriot !!

Where as "to", "kalo", "xwrio", "den" and "qelei" are definitely Cypriot!

How does it feel to wake up every morning and realise you are still an idiot?

Much better than waking up and realizing , as you do , that you are full of shit !

I'd say waking up an idiot every morning would be worse.

You too then is full of shit

A false dichotomy, no?

I guessed as much from your first post

I know it's a little late for you, but try reasoning instead of guessing.

your detestable ex-signature

There must be a fair few detestable Greeks around because quite a few people agreed with me on it.

and your worthless contributions to the forum

Even after separating the wheat from the chaff, how many pages has this thread I started gone to?

still one a Plonker always a Plonker hey boy ?

Whatever you say, you pathetic old fool. And with half-caste kids at that huh? No wonder you loathe your Greekness!!

[miltiades]

What on earth is kolaouzo!! Some sort of aperitif no doubt !!

Golauzin means 'signpost' I think...

I dont think so , it sounds foreign to me , definitely not Cypriot !!

Where as "to", "kalo", "xwrio", "den" and "qelei" are definitely Cypriot!

How does it feel to wake up every morning and realise you are still an idiot?

Much better than waking up and realizing , as you do , that you are full of shit !

I'd say waking up an idiot every morning would be worse.

You too then is full of shit

A false dichotomy, no?

I guessed as much from your first post

I know it's a little late for you, but try reasoning instead of guessing.

your detestable ex-signature

There must be a fair few detestable Greeks around because quite a few people agreed with me on it.

and your worthless contributions to the forum

Even after separating the wheat from the chaff, how many pages has this thread I started gone to?

still one a Plonker always a Plonker hey boy ?

Whatever you say, you pathetic old fool. And with half-caste kids at that huh? No wonder you loathe your Greekness!!

What I loathe is the perception than you and others of similar scatological nonsense have that there is no such identity as that of a Cypriot. What does "Greekness" possess that Cypriotness does not .
If you are in possession of a Cypriot passport or ID perhaps you will care to look for the word " GREEK" on either of these two Cypriot documents !!
The word Greek does not form part of the RoC official passports and IDs . Your "Greekness " is deeply embedded in your brain having been implanted there as a result of mental rape . My Cypriotness is all around me , my Cypriot culture is unique to Cyprus irrespective whether you are a G/C as I'm , a T/C , Armenian , Maronite , you embrace the nation of Cyprus as a Cypriot. What is it with you and your likes , the whole world accepts that there is a Cyprus nation on its own merit by virtue of the fact that we have our own distinct national identities recognized the world over.

Both of my parents were Cypriot born and Cypriot in spirit , their parents too and beyond , they were uniquely G/Cs not GREEKS .
May I also suggest that you refrain from insults as I can assure you that 3 years on this forum has well prepared me to respond in kind should it become imperative to react.
ps. My children have an English mother , many Cypriots in the UK have English or Britis wives / partners etc . My grandchilden born in Cyprus to my daughter have a G/Cypriot father , does this also make them half cast ?

[james_mav]

What I loathe

Nobody on here gives a fuck what you loathe, what you like, think, do.

scatological nonsense

That's a big word. Did you read it in a book?

If you are in possession of a Cypriot passport or ID perhaps you will care to look for the word " GREEK" on either of these two Cypriot documents !!

I have a healthy disregard for what governments (any government for that matter) think I am, am not, or should or should not think, do, eat, etc. What is printed on a government document matters naught to me.

Your "Greekness " is deeply embedded in your brain having been implanted there as a result of mental rape

Are you upping the ante by resorting to such ridiculous language because your reason for self-loathing have been outed? If Greekness was so important to you, why didn't you choose a Greek mother for your children?

My Cypriotness is all around me , my Cypriot culture is unique to Cyprus irrespective whether you are a G/C as I'm , a T/C , Armenian , Maronite , you embrace the nation of Cyprus as a Cypriot.

Behold how the turks embrace the nation of Cyprus as a whole.

What is it with you and your likes , the whole world accepts that there is a Cyprus nation on its own merit by virtue of the fact that

Almost nobody denies the existence of Cyprus as a political and legal entity. What anybody with the ability think critically rejects is the notion of a Cypriot ethnicity.

we have our own distinct national identities

In fact, this is precisely the problem!

May I also suggest that you refrain from insults as I can assure you that 3 years on this forum has well prepared me to respond in kind should it become imperative to react.

Woah - three years on an internet forum, quite the brawler aren't you?! You stupid old fuck, go back to playing with your komboloi, and tending to your self-loathing.

[miltiades]

What I loathe

Nobody on here gives a fuck what you loathe, what you like, think, do.

scatological nonsense

That's a big word. Did you read it in a book?

If you are in possession of a Cypriot passport or ID perhaps you will care to look for the word " GREEK" on either of these two Cypriot documents !!

I have a healthy disregard for what governments (any government for that matter) think I am, am not, or should or should not think, do, eat, etc. What is printed on a government document matters naught to me.

Your "Greekness " is deeply embedded in your brain having been implanted there as a result of mental rape

Are you upping the ante by resorting to such ridiculous language because your reason for self-loathing have been outed? If Greekness was so important to you, why didn't you choose a Greek mother for your children?

My Cypriotness is all around me , my Cypriot culture is unique to Cyprus irrespective whether you are a G/C as I'm , a T/C , Armenian , Maronite , you embrace the nation of Cyprus as a Cypriot.

Behold how the turks embrace the nation of Cyprus as a whole.

What is it with you and your likes , the whole world accepts that there is a Cyprus nation on its own merit by virtue of the fact that

Almost nobody denies the existence of Cyprus as a political and legal entity. What anybody with the ability think critically rejects is the notion of a Cypriot ethnicity.

we have our own distinct national identities

In fact, this is precisely the problem!

May I also suggest that you refrain from insults as I can assure you that 3 years on this forum has well prepared me to respond in kind should it become imperative to react.

Woah - three years on an internet forum, quite the brawler aren't you?! You stupid old fuck, go back to playing with your komboloi, and tending to your self-loathing.

From the insulting language you use I can see clearly why you had as a signature the disgusting , racist remark that no doubt you also beleive in its contents .
I have challenged , and it is well known on this forum , many extremists from both divides over the last 3 years. What I have "preached " continually and consistently is that the island of Cyprus is the homeland of all Cypriots and that all Cypriots have an equal right to call the island their own. I have " preached "reconciliation , empathy , forgiveness and understanding of each others concerns and fears. I have consistently supported peaceful political battles as against conflict and the ensuing violence and destruction that conflict can inflict on the Cypriot people. I have , and always will , be prepared to build bridges of understanding amongst the Cypriot people.
As for your cheap remarks """Nobody on here gives a fuck what you loathe, what you like, think, "" I will ask you once again to refrain from insults , I will not respond in kind purely because you are not worth it , your signature epitomised your entire personality and , here it is again , your credentials as a first class coprologist were evident for all to witness.
You do not have the intelligence to debate a subject without reverting to insolence and cheap sarcasms . I know you from the past cant quite work it out if you are Alexander , Maidland or Scaliotis , whoever you are you do not merit my attention.

[polis]

If you are in possession of a Cypriot passport or ID perhaps you will care to look for the word " GREEK" on either of these two Cypriot documents !!
The word Greek does not form part of the RoC official passports and IDs.

Actually, the very constitution of the Republic of Cyprus recognises that a substantial part of the population of Cyprus are of Greek origin.

Article 2.1 of the Constitution states the following:

"2. For the purposes of this Constitution:

1. the Greek Community comprises all citizens of the Republic who are of Greek origin and whose mother tongue is Greek or who share the Greek cultural traditions or who are members of the Greek-Orthodox Church;

................."

Every time somone becomes a citizen of Cyprus or obtains a Cyprus passport or ID card, the Ministry of Interior has to decide based on the criteria set by article 2, in which of the two Cyprus communities the applicant belongs and thereby assign the applicant to that community. Their rights are then determined in many respects (for example until recently their right to vote and be a candidate, matters regarding marital status, whether under certain circumstances their proprty rights have been assigned to the administrator etc) by that assignment.

So by the very process of having been registered as a Cyprus citizen or having a Cypriot passport or ID card issued in your name you have already been assigned by the very Repuclic of Cyprus as a member of the Greek Community of Cyprus on the basis of your Greek ethnic origin.

Now, fancy that! Idiot!

[james_mav]

I will ask you once again to refrain from insults , I will not respond in kind purely because you are not worth it [...] You do not have the intelligence to debate a subject without reverting to insolence and cheap sarcasms [...] whoever you are you do not merit my attention.

Is that the best you can do? You really had me quaking with this one:

May I also suggest that you refrain from insults as I can assure you that 3 years on this forum has well prepared me to respond in kind should it become imperative to react.

You're a miserable, senile, self-loathing old bastard. Your time has passed, the world has passed you by, your values and opinions are from a bygone era; they've been repeated over and over, and have gotten us nowhere. Take a hint and fuck off.

[EPSILON]

Milti, i do not reply directly your posts but i want just to ask you to calm down and to realize that you are not the "big mind" of Cypriots. Only a fascist do not regognize the right to someone else to have his own opinion.
If you like to call yourselve as of Cyprus Ethnos is your absolute right but the fact that there is not such a thing allow us to consider that you are just dreaming.

[RC]

The concept of ethnicity can be very fluid.

Whilst generally, language, religion, and a shared history are the main factors in determining an ethnicity, sometimes political drivers can also shape or concoct an ethnicity (see Moldova and FYROM).

If enough people perceive to belong to a particular ethnicity, no matter how ridiculous that perception may be, that perception has to be acknowledged.

A Cypriot ethnicity has never previously existed, however, a series of treacherous and spineless acts by the Greek state during the course of the 20th century has provided fertile ground for communists and other race traitors to promote a Cypriot ethnicity. Tragically, I suspect that within a generation, the Skopjanisation of the Greek Cypriots will be significant enough that the existence of a Cypriot ethnicity will be acknowledged.

The great irony is that by the conventional standards of ethnicity, Cypriots have been indisputably Greek almost as long as the concept of 'Greekness' has existed, whereas many Greeks in the Greek state (Vlachs/Slavophones/Arvanites) have only recently been assimilated into the Greek ethnic group.

[suetoniuspaulinus]

The concept of ethnicity can be very fluid.

Whilst generally, language, religion, and a shared history are the main factors in determining an ethnicity, sometimes political drivers can also shape or concoct an ethnicity (see Moldova and FYROM).

If enough people perceive to belong to a particular ethnicity, no matter how ridiculous that perception may be, that perception has to be acknowledged.

A Cypriot ethnicity has never previously existed, however, a series of treacherous and spineless acts by the Greek state during the course of the 20th century has provided fertile ground for communists and other race traitors to promote a Cypriot ethnicity. Tragically, I suspect that within a generation, the Skopjanisation of the Greek Cypriots will be significant enough that the existence of a Cypriot ethnicity will be acknowledged.

The great irony is that by the conventional standards of ethnicity, Cypriots have been indisputably Greek almost as long as the concept of 'Greekness' has existed, whereas many Greeks in the Greek state (Vlachs/Slavophones/Arvanites) have only recently been assimilated into the Greek ethnic group.

I think that I have to agree with you but I do have a question. You mention the concept of "Greekness" and its existance, when do you believe that this concept first came into being?