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The Cypriot identity is a myth

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby james_mav » Thu May 28, 2009 11:04 am

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Tim Drayton wrote:Well, I happen to know which of these photographs are of GCs and which are of TCs, but just from looking I would be unable to tell the difference.

No prizes, but anybody care to hazard a guess (I will tell you later).

Please, put this misguided colonial master - strange 'colonial master' who obtains a residence permit from the RoC Immigration Department and pays income tax and VAT to the RoC tax authorities - out of his misery. Please tell me how to distinguish between the natives, because I do not know!


Sorry Tim, unless you believe Alexander the Great is somehow a direct descendent you will never be accepted by a certain section of the natives. And they also believe, with views like this, that they are 'European', nay sir, 'Hellenic'!


What exactly is your argument here? Can you tell me with supporting evidence what exactly you claim you are? Are you ethnically a Cypriot?


My parents are from Cyprus.

DT. wrote:Are you a Greek Cypriot?


I was christened in an orthodox church. I cried apparently. I had no say in the matter. (I'd have cried more if I'd been circumcised no doubt).

DT. wrote:In fact don't even bother with supporting evidence, I'll accept whatever it is you're trying to prove here just quit posting Kypriakes paroimies and tell us something with a little substance.


Hey, I'm nation building... or you could even say re-building.


Ok forget it... :roll:

At least I've figured out what importance to place on your forum contributions from now on.


What's that supposed to mean?


Don't worry about it. I just have a classification system in my head on who to take seriously on this forum and who not to.

you ought to publish it sometime
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Postby Oracle » Thu May 28, 2009 11:15 am

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Oracle wrote:Tim ... please don't bother, because I can post pictures of Frenchmen drinking wine and eating cheese and post the same for an Englishman and you would not necessarily tell them apart ..... nothing more than superficial crassness confirming my initial accusation.



French or British?

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Ethnically or by Nationality?


They speak either English/French. They're Christian (Roman Catholic/Anglican). They love either cheddar/brie. They support either England/France in the world cup.

French or British?


British is not an ethnicity ... ask them if they want to forget their roots.

You are just proving the point that the term Cypriot is a political nationality ... whereas an ethnicity can be something else altogether.
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Postby The Cypriot » Thu May 28, 2009 11:18 am

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Don't worry about it. I just have a classification system in my head on who to take seriously on this forum and who not to.


And my response to you above has put me in the not-to-be-taken seriously category? Can't see why but so long as I'm not in the same category as Byron I can live with it.
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Postby Oracle » Thu May 28, 2009 11:21 am

I too want to see DT.'s little classification list :D

:? ... actually :shock: ... I don't!
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Postby DT. » Thu May 28, 2009 11:24 am

Oracle wrote:I too want to see DT.'s little classification list :D

:? ... actually :shock: ... I don't!


:lol:
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Postby boomerang » Thu May 28, 2009 11:39 am

I hate to see mine... :lol:
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Postby Lit » Thu May 28, 2009 11:52 am

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Lit wrote:I am removing my comment.



If you removed yourself, you would make a lot of people happy. :lol:


Niiiiiiice.

Good afternoon to you too, Deni. Hey uh, speaking of making forum members happy...i got one for you.

Let see...you, on youtube, performing Michael Jackson's Thriller. Caaaaaaause this is thriiiiller, thriiiiller night uhuh

Make it snappy Deni. Dont disappoint me now

I'll be back tomorrow to check out the vid.

:lol:
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Postby The Cypriot » Thu May 28, 2009 12:08 pm

Oracle wrote:
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Oracle wrote:
The Cypriot wrote:
Oracle wrote:Tim ... please don't bother, because I can post pictures of Frenchmen drinking wine and eating cheese and post the same for an Englishman and you would not necessarily tell them apart ..... nothing more than superficial crassness confirming my initial accusation.



French or British?

Image


Ethnically or by Nationality?


They speak either English/French. They're Christian (Roman Catholic/Anglican). They love either cheddar/brie. They support either England/France in the world cup.

French or British?


British is not an ethnicity ...


Maybe you should speak to these guys for advice and to compare notes:

http://bnp.org.uk/

Oracle wrote: ask them if they want to forget their roots.


They're very sensitive you know. They get very upset if you deny them their Frenchness/Britishness.


Oracle wrote:You are just proving the point that the term Cypriot is a political nationality ... whereas an ethnicity can be something else altogether.


I reject the term 'ethnicity'. It's all yours. Do whatever you want with it.
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Postby The Cypriot » Thu May 28, 2009 12:37 pm

Oracle wrote:Of course even the British Nationals identify themselves as English Scottish or Welsh or Irish ... yet we as Cypriot Nationals are not allowed to identify with being of Greek affiliation ...


But you are half Greek, aren't you?
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Postby Oracle » Thu May 28, 2009 12:47 pm

The Cypriot wrote:
Oracle wrote:
The Cypriot wrote:
Oracle wrote:
The Cypriot wrote:
Oracle wrote:Tim ... please don't bother, because I can post pictures of Frenchmen drinking wine and eating cheese and post the same for an Englishman and you would not necessarily tell them apart ..... nothing more than superficial crassness confirming my initial accusation.



French or British?

Image


Ethnically or by Nationality?


They speak either English/French. They're Christian (Roman Catholic/Anglican). They love either cheddar/brie. They support either England/France in the world cup.

French or British?


British is not an ethnicity ...


Maybe you should speak to these guys for advice and to compare notes:

http://bnp.org.uk/


What do they know about the fair and legal acquisition of Nationalities?

Oracle wrote: ask them if they want to forget their roots.


They're very sensitive you know. They get very upset if you deny them their Frenchness/Britishness.

I don't deny them anything. On the contrary, you deny them the right to hold on, also, to their ethnicity/culture. Or was "Africa" a Myth?

Unlike you, (and GR! etc) I am comfortable with the dual notion of having a political/geographical Nationality identifier, as well as a cultural/ ethnic identifier.

My life and theirs is richer for both ... not less.

It is you who is denying something of your make-up, not I, or them.

Would I have less rights under your government to call myself a Greek origin Cypriot? Or my son a Scot/Greek origin Cypriot? ....

Because at the moment, the RoC does not deny anyone a cultural identifier when it offers the Cypriot Nationality/citizenship.

I think it is you who is behaving like the BNP by forcing people to deny a very important Human acquired characteristic, that of ethnicity/culture.

Oracle wrote:You are just proving the point that the term Cypriot is a political nationality ... whereas an ethnicity can be something else altogether.


I reject the term 'ethnicity'. It's all yours. Do whatever you want with it.

Well then you have to remove your vragga :lol: for that is an ethnicity meme.
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