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The Cypriot identity is a myth

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Postby Tim Drayton » Thu May 28, 2009 10:11 am

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Traditional lacework. GC or TC?

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Postby james_mav » Thu May 28, 2009 10:15 am

Tim Drayton wrote:Picture 4.
Traditional lacework. GC or TC?

are you that much of a tool?
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Postby Tim Drayton » Thu May 28, 2009 10:15 am

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Folk dancing costume.

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Postby Tim Drayton » Thu May 28, 2009 10:19 am

Well, I happen to know which of these photographs are of GCs and which are of TCs, but just from looking I would be unable to tell the difference.

No prizes, but anybody care to hazard a guess (I will tell you later).

Please, put this misguided colonial master - strange 'colonial master' who obtains a residence permit from the RoC Immigration Department and pays income tax and VAT to the RoC tax authorities - out of his misery. Please tell me how to distinguish between the natives, because I do not know!
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Postby The Cypriot » Thu May 28, 2009 10:20 am

Oracle wrote:Tim ... please don't bother, because I can post pictures of Frenchmen drinking wine and eating cheese and post the same for an Englishman and you would not necessarily tell them apart ..... nothing more than superficial crassness confirming my initial accusation.



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Postby DT. » Thu May 28, 2009 10:21 am

miltiades wrote:
EPSILON wrote:
DT. wrote:
james_mav wrote:
miltiades wrote:Cyprus has existed for thousands of years why deny its identity .

Because the Greeks who live in Cyprus have no identity distinct from the Greek identity (or as we have previously discussed, a local flavour of the Greek identity, just like in many places in Greece).

If you were so isolated and so different and have existed separate from Greece for so long, the language, predominant religion, and cultural & social mores of the Greek Cypriots would've diverged drastically from that of mainland Greece and her closer islands. But in fact these indicators of ethnos (ok, they're not the only ones) have not changed so markedly. Ergo, you're a Greek!
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If i understand well,Cypriot as Ethnicity, includes also North Cyprus and settlers of course who get nc nationality. If we speak about Cyprus Ethnos then what is this all about invasion/occupation and other bshts?The people came in Cyprus to protect our brothers and sisters (tcs) why you are complaining - they are protecting a part of Cyprus Ethnos!!1

The Turkish army invaded Cyprus because the Cypriots , all Cypriots , were brainwashed by Greece and Turkey and encouraged to deny their true identity that of a Cypriot. Even bloody Halloumi is a Cypriot product as well as the famous Cypriot potato not forgetting our Cypriot Mouflon and our sturdy donkey.
You can be a Cypriot Greek , Cypriot Turk , Maronite or Armenian but in essence those deriving from Cyprus born and bred in Cyprus for hundreds of years are predominantly Cypriots.
I have no problem with being a Greek Cypriot the problem I have is to be a Greek and in denial of my ancestry which was exceptionally Cypriot.
Since Cyprus is recognized the world over as an independent nation what is your problem in accepting what the rest of the world already does .
The common denominator for all Cypriots should by default be Cyprus and its IDENTITY .


No one is asking you to be a Greek. The common denominator will always be Cyprus as a home land for all Cypriots. It is just ridiculous to state that there is an ethnic group known as Cypriots. There is a common geographical location and a common national legal entity of the Republic of Cyprus making us all Cypriots by location and citizenship (excluding the clowns who claim disneyland in the north as their citizenship).

The difference is that there is an ethnic background to the GC's which is Greek. This has nothing to do with Athens or the mainland since we have gone our own way in Cyprus. It is very similar (although different due to it being a religion/culture) with a Jewish American/Russian/Brit and the ties they feel with Israel and Zionism (GR! will love this one. :D )
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Postby Tim Drayton » Thu May 28, 2009 10:22 am

james_mav wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:Picture 4.
Traditional lacework. GC or TC?

are you that much of a tool?


Answer the question Mr "the only good Turk is a dead Turk". Do you kill this woman or not?
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Postby james_mav » Thu May 28, 2009 10:23 am

Tim Drayton wrote:
james_mav wrote:are you that much of a tool?


Answer the question Mr "the only good Turk is a dead Turk".

Answer: yes you are.
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Postby The Cypriot » Thu May 28, 2009 10:26 am

Tim Drayton wrote:Well, I happen to know which of these photographs are of GCs and which are of TCs, but just from looking I would be unable to tell the difference.

No prizes, but anybody care to hazard a guess (I will tell you later).

Please, put this misguided colonial master - strange 'colonial master' who obtains a residence permit from the RoC Immigration Department and pays income tax and VAT to the RoC tax authorities - out of his misery. Please tell me how to distinguish between the natives, because I do not know!


Sorry Tim, unless you believe Alexander the Great is somehow a direct descendent you will never be accepted by a certain section of the natives. And they also believe, with views like this, that they are 'European', nay sir, 'Hellenic'!
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Postby The Cypriot » Thu May 28, 2009 10:32 am

james_mav wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:Picture 4.
Traditional lacework. GC or TC?

are you that much of a tool?


James_mavroshilloyirefke!
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