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[james_mav]

More than anything I want to highlight the constant damage being done to Cyprus by her malicious neighbors Greece and Turkey, and wish for all my compatriots to awaken to this fact and unite as a single voice to confront and expel them.

Are you out of your mind? If it were not for Greece the RoC would now be a southern turkish province called kibristan. Greece expended no end of political capital holding out on agreeing to the customs union with turkey until EU ascension negotiations were opened with the RoC, and again threatened to block the ascension of the other 9 countries that joined the EU in 2004. And let us not forget the billions in defense spending over the years that would not have been spent had Greece considered it unnecessary to present a credible deterrent to the turks (trust me, there would be no Aegean dispute if it were not for the Cyprus problem). Greece is the best friend that the RoC has.

Great response champ. Do you care to refute anything I've written?

[Get Real!]

More than anything I want to highlight the constant damage being done to Cyprus by her malicious neighbors Greece and Turkey, and wish for all my compatriots to awaken to this fact and unite as a single voice to confront and expel them.

Are you out of your mind? If it were not for Greece the RoC would now be a southern turkish province called kibristan. Greece expended no end of political capital holding out on agreeing to the customs union with turkey until EU ascension negotiations were opened with the RoC, and again threatened to block the ascension of the other 9 countries that joined the EU in 2004. And let us not forget the billions in defense spending over the years that would not have been spent had Greece considered it unnecessary to present a credible deterrent to the turks (trust me, there would be no Aegean dispute if it were not for the Cyprus problem). Greece is the best friend that the RoC has.

Great response champ. Do you care to refute anything I've written?

Not in this thread, and not to mention that we've already covered everything you mention scores of times.

[james_mav]

More than anything I want to highlight the constant damage being done to Cyprus by her malicious neighbors Greece and Turkey, and wish for all my compatriots to awaken to this fact and unite as a single voice to confront and expel them.

Are you out of your mind? If it were not for Greece the RoC would now be a southern turkish province called kibristan. Greece expended no end of political capital holding out on agreeing to the customs union with turkey until EU ascension negotiations were opened with the RoC, and again threatened to block the ascension of the other 9 countries that joined the EU in 2004. And let us not forget the billions in defense spending over the years that would not have been spent had Greece considered it unnecessary to present a credible deterrent to the turks (trust me, there would be no Aegean dispute if it were not for the Cyprus problem). Greece is the best friend that the RoC has.

Great response champ. Do you care to refute anything I've written?

we've already covered everything you mention scores of times.

Clearly it hasn't sunk in for you yet then

[Piratis]

My main interest was to learn and contribute to discussion of the 'Cyprus problem'.

It didn't seem like this to me. At no point you showed the will to learn something and even when you were proven wrong (and I can give examples of this) you insisted on your initial wrong position.

As far as racism goes, this was not created now in the forum.

The problem between Greek Cypriots and Muslims (later called Turkish Cypriots) in Cyprus was always based on racism. The Ottomans divided the people into Christians (Greek Cypriots and the others that existed in Cyprus before Turks arrived) and Muslims (the Settlers who they brought from Anatolia and those who adopted Islam). They gave to the Muslims more rights and privileges, while the Christians were made second category citizens.

Unfortunately even after the Ottoman rule ended, the UK and Turkey continued to support such division for their own interests, and the Muslim minority in Cyprus continued to believe that they deserve to have Ottoman Style privileges on the expense of every other Cypriot.

Many times in this forum I advocated that there should be no kind of racist discriminations. Cypriot citizens should be exactly equal to each other regardless of what their ethnic background is, what religion they follow or what language they speak. But most TCs reject all these, and they instead seek to impose a "solution" that will maintain racist discriminations against us. This naturally creates anger among the majority of Cypriots, which in turn becomes hate against those who insist on discriminating against us.

Therefore in order to remove racism from the forum and from Cyprus in general we should finally move forward from the mentality of the Middle Ages and the divisions imposed during Ottoman times. Otherwise there will continue to be hate and and racism, and a forum that allows people to freely express themselves will reflect this.

[miltiades]

Cyprus Forum was the first ever forum I participated.
All participants have a reason for being on the forum.
I have met some great guys and look forward to meeting many more. I shall never tire from challenging what I and every responsible Cypriot considers , extremist hateful divisive nonconstructive and damaging to Cyprus posts .
The extremists must know that their sometimes vile views , as we have recently witnessed , will no go unchallenged , this forum is watched by thousands , its ranking on Alexa.com , a barometer of traffic analysis shows that the Cyprus Forum has a world wide ranking of 252384 of which 22% comes from the UK , 19.7% from Cyprus , Greece 6.8% , USA 9.4% . Interesting to know that the highest percentage derives from the UK where the Forums ranking is at 78765 and also impressive is the USA ranking at 700746.
All above is to indicate that this forum is watched and the image that we Cypriots must present to the world is that we have learned from the past and that the only way forward is the political one embracing all Cypriots and arriving at a solution that is just and lasting and free from the restrains of foreign influence ,without foreign troops on our lands , without the fear of conflict arising out of half baked forced on the people solutions.
The Cypriot people will never succumb to the similar pressures exerted upon them when their position was negligible , when their young Republic was but a mere infant , 50 years on fundamental and monumental changes have taken place not least our entry into the EU , an acceptance at the highest levels of the ROC that our island is an independent nation standing on its own feet , a nation that has and should have the well being of all its people as its priority , its hospitals and social services available to all , its laws applicable to all fairly , its " persona" both national and international representative of all Cypriots , none must be made to stand in the shade while others bask in the sunshine. A Cypriot standing on his own has as much rights as a Cypriot standing with a crowd .

[DT.]

Cyprus Forum was the first ever forum I participated.
All participants have a reason for being on the forum.
I have met some great guys and look forward to meeting many more. I shall never tire from challenging what I and every responsible Cypriot considers , extremist hateful divisive nonconstructive and damaging to Cyprus posts .
The extremists must know that their sometimes vile views , as we have recently witnessed , will no go unchallenged , this forum is watched by thousands , its ranking on Alexa.com , a barometer of traffic analysis shows that the Cyprus Forum has a world wide ranking of 252384 of which 22% comes from the UK , 19.7% from Cyprus , Greece 6.8% , USA 9.4% . Interesting to know that the highest percentage derives from the UK where the Forums ranking is at 78765 and also impressive is the USA ranking at 700746.
All above is to indicate that this forum is watched and the image that we Cypriots must present to the world is that we have learned from the past and that the only way forward is the political one embracing all Cypriots and arriving at a solution that is just and lasting and free from the restrains of foreign influence ,without foreign troops on our lands , without the fear of conflict arising out of half baked forced on the people solutions.
The Cypriot people will never succumb to the similar pressures exerted upon them when their position was negligible , when their young Republic was but a mere infant , 50 years on fundamental and monumental changes have taken place not least our entry into the EU , an acceptance at the highest levels of the ROC that our island is an independent nation standing on its own feet , a nation that has and should have the well being of all its people as its priority , its hospitals and social services available to all , its laws applicable to all fairly , its " persona" both national and international representative of all Cypriots , none must be made to stand in the shade while others bask in the sunshine. A Cypriot standing on his own has as much rights as a Cypriot standing with a crowd .

How can it rank 252384 in the world and then rank 700746 in the US?

[Oracle]

More than anything I want to highlight the constant damage being done to Cyprus by her malicious neighbors Greece and Turkey, and wish for all my compatriots to awaken to this fact and unite as a single voice to confront and expel them.

Are you out of your mind? If it were not for Greece the RoC would now be a southern turkish province called kibristan. Greece expended no end of political capital holding out on agreeing to the customs union with turkey until EU ascension negotiations were opened with the RoC, and again threatened to block the ascension of the other 9 countries that joined the EU in 2004. And let us not forget the billions in defense spending over the years that would not have been spent had Greece considered it unnecessary to present a credible deterrent to the turks (trust me, there would be no Aegean dispute if it were not for the Cyprus problem). Greece is the best friend that the RoC has.

Great response champ. Do you care to refute anything I've written?

Not in this thread, and not to mention that we've already covered everything you mention scores of times.

What GR! means, is that every time he has been cornered to supply evidence that "Greece is destructive" for Cyprus, he says he's already covered this before.

The truth is GR! has never once provided credible evidence or news or such like, to show anything of the kind.

What he is doing is what most Turks around here do, which is make a propaganda claim and then fail to support it.

[Jerry]

Well it's a victory for the ignorant racists scum that stalk these pages then isn't it Copperline. They have seen you off. You have contributed a lot to this site and whilst I have not always agreed with you I respect your views and the articulate manner in which you express them. Your leaving CF serves no useful purpose, reconsider and fight the good fight.

[miltiades]

Sorry GR , just adding a few sentences my self.
Greece orchestrated the disastrous coup against the legally elected government of Cyprus in 1974 , all by it self no Americans , no British but the Greek junta which for the preceding few years was actively engaged in anti Makarios actions , ie its refusal to abide by the request of the Cypriot government to have its officers removed from Cyprus.
She , the Greek Junta , alone gave Turkey the green light to invade , she then proceed to take that well needed " mono ligo kero xaposteni" , bad luck for Cyprus the invasion came during a break for a well ...deserved rest.
Yes , I hold Greece exclusively responsible for enticing Turkey into the arena and then having had a ..rest , just withered away !!
The Greeks gained their independence from the dictatorship as a result of Cyprus losing a third of its own.

[miltiades]

Cyprus Forum was the first ever forum I participated.
All participants have a reason for being on the forum.
I have met some great guys and look forward to meeting many more. I shall never tire from challenging what I and every responsible Cypriot considers , extremist hateful divisive nonconstructive and damaging to Cyprus posts .
The extremists must know that their sometimes vile views , as we have recently witnessed , will no go unchallenged , this forum is watched by thousands , its ranking on Alexa.com , a barometer of traffic analysis shows that the Cyprus Forum has a world wide ranking of 252384 of which 22% comes from the UK , 19.7% from Cyprus , Greece 6.8% , USA 9.4% . Interesting to know that the highest percentage derives from the UK where the Forums ranking is at 78765 and also impressive is the USA ranking at 700746.
All above is to indicate that this forum is watched and the image that we Cypriots must present to the world is that we have learned from the past and that the only way forward is the political one embracing all Cypriots and arriving at a solution that is just and lasting and free from the restrains of foreign influence ,without foreign troops on our lands , without the fear of conflict arising out of half baked forced on the people solutions.
The Cypriot people will never succumb to the similar pressures exerted upon them when their position was negligible , when their young Republic was but a mere infant , 50 years on fundamental and monumental changes have taken place not least our entry into the EU , an acceptance at the highest levels of the ROC that our island is an independent nation standing on its own feet , a nation that has and should have the well being of all its people as its priority , its hospitals and social services available to all , its laws applicable to all fairly , its " persona" both national and international representative of all Cypriots , none must be made to stand in the shade while others bask in the sunshine. A Cypriot standing on his own has as much rights as a Cypriot standing with a crowd .

How can it rank 252384 in the world and then rank 700746 in the US?

Here it is , work it our DT
* 943 Cyprus
* 45,594 Greece
* 151,734 India
* 111,849 Turkey
* 78,765 United Kingdom
* 700,746 United States
www.alexa.com

To help you out , when working out why in the USA its ranking its lower than world wide bear in mind that in the USA its ranked along with very high ranking sites , unlike ww .