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Postby cannedmoose » Fri Jun 17, 2005 2:26 pm

Has anyone read the new book by William Mallinson, "Cyprus: A Modern History". I got it today and will begin wading through it later on. Just interested to know if anyone's read this yet and what perspectives you had on Mallinson's account. He's a Professor of International Relations at a university in Athens, so on the face of it I'd expect a GC bias. I'll let you know my thoughts once I've finished it.
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Postby brother » Fri Jun 17, 2005 3:21 pm

I look forward to your book report which i will base my opinions on if i am going to buy the book.
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Postby cannedmoose » Fri Jun 17, 2005 4:49 pm

Having just read the introduction and Chapter one, I wouldn't...

Heavy bias, suggestion in the introduction (and the preface) that Cyprus should simply have been given to Greece in 1960, blames the entire situation from start to finish on Britain... maybe an agreeable text to some GCs, but to most others I don't think it's covering any new ground. It reads more like a Hitchens book than an attempt to explore both sides.

Let's hope it improves... even my dog keeps wanting to chew the edges so that shows what she thinks about it.
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Postby brother » Fri Jun 17, 2005 4:53 pm

Keep the info coming please.
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Postby cannedmoose » Fri Jun 17, 2005 4:58 pm

Give me time, got to go pick up Mrs. Moose in a minute... then prepare my bbq extravaganza... :D
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Postby Piratis » Fri Jun 17, 2005 8:16 pm

cannedmouse, do you think that the minority of blacks (or any other minority) should have been able to block the EU entry of UK if the great majority wanted it?

Do you think that in Bulgaria the Turkish minority should be given a separate vote and be able to block Bulgaria's entry in the EU?

The fact is that the one and only reason that Cyprus is not part of Greece today it is because this was not for the interests of the British colonialists that wanted to maintain control with huge bases on the island. This is the truth either you like it or not.
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Postby metecyp » Fri Jun 17, 2005 10:05 pm

Piratis wrote:cannedmouse, do you think that the minority of blacks (or any other minority) should have been able to block the EU entry of UK if the great majority wanted it?

Do you think that in Bulgaria the Turkish minority should be given a separate vote and be able to block Bulgaria's entry in the EU?

You're comparing apples and oranges. First of all, EU is not a country but rather a union. Therefore, union of Bulgaria/Britian with the EU is not the same as the union of Cyprus with Greece. Secondly, EU does not have bad consequences for minorities for the most part. Turks in Bulgaria or blacks in England can only expect their situation to get better with the EU. However, the story was much more different for TCs in Cyprus in 1950s. With the fresh example of Turks in Crete, you couldn't expect TCs to agree that Cyprus being part of Greece would improve their situation.
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Postby gabaston » Fri Jun 17, 2005 10:33 pm

Piratis

Lets assume that the black population made up about twenty percent of the UK and they opposed entry to Eu. With the remaining 80% per cent being roughly split then Britain could not have joined.

That is not my point though- My point is that if the 20% black population all spoke with one voice and rejected the Eu, the British govt would probably have woken up to the fact that there was discontent amongst the black population and would have attempted to find out why and implemented measures within a democratic sytem to eradicate this discontent.
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Postby metecyp » Fri Jun 17, 2005 10:36 pm

the British govt would probably have woken up to the fact that there was discontent amongst the black population and would have attempted to find out why and implemented measures within a democratic sytem to eradicate this discontent.

Unlike the "RoC" government of 1960s who completely ignored the TC wishes and considered TCs as an obstacle to the majority desire of Enosis.
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Postby garbitsch » Fri Jun 17, 2005 10:40 pm

Piratis, don't hope that enosis will ever happen :wink:
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