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[demetriou_74]

GB only uses Cyprus. why would they waste millions of pounds relocating? until the EU can prove they cause lukemia they wont get moved.

[cannedmoose]

Sorry to move slightly off topic (still on books though), does anyone know the website address for the Rustem Bookshop in Lefkosa? I did have it bookmarked but lost it. They publish a book that I'm going to acquire through the British library but I can't remember its exact details which are on the site. If anyone knows, can you let me know ASAP either by PM or in this thread.

Many thanks,

Moose

[MicAtCyp]

I believe it's currently disputed whether they're cancerous or not. Plus, it would depend on the proximity of the antenna to human beings. They may transmit EM waves at a higher frequency than mobile phones but mobile phones in use are located in direct contact with the person in question.

In the meantime of course the British advised their personel not to bathe in the ladies mile anymore.....That's where hundreds of Limassol people take their sea baths.
The unethical part regarding this issue is that until the antenas are proven cancerous (or not) the Limassol children will be used as guinea pigs.

[suetoniuspaulinus]

I believe it's currently disputed whether they're cancerous or not. Plus, it would depend on the proximity of the antenna to human beings. They may transmit EM waves at a higher frequency than mobile phones but mobile phones in use are located in direct contact with the person in question.

In the meantime of course the British advised their personel not to bathe in the ladies mile anymore.....That's where hundreds of Limassol people take their sea baths.
The unethical part regarding this issue is that until the antenas are proven cancerous (or not) the Limassol children will be used as guinea pigs.

Mr MicAtCyp
Good evening to you.

It sounds like very bad news to have kids being affected this way.

Am I right that the situation is being "invesestigated" by the authorities?

When will they know for sure?

Perhaps an environmental NGO in the South may be able to speed up the decision?

EU Environmental Commissioners??

Perhaps the least they could do is to keep people off those beaches.

What about the Mayor??

Your in the EU now.

People Power

This sounds like a serious issue folks

[cannedmoose]

In the meantime of course the British advised their personel not to bathe in the ladies mile anymore.....That's where hundreds of Limassol people take their sea baths.
The unethical part regarding this issue is that until the antenas are proven cancerous (or not) the Limassol children will be used as guinea pigs.

I'm not in Cyprus currently, so I can't verify the truth on this, I'll trust your report of this M@C. If this is the case, then you should be lobbying your MEP, you should be lobbying British MEPs and you should contact the EUs Environment Commissioner Stavros Dimas. If you can get independent readings of dangerous levels of EM fields in populated areas, these should also be forwarded to these people. I'm sure organisations such as Greenpeace or even the Ecologists Party in Cyprus would be willing to finance these exploratory experiments if it's dangerous for both people and the surrounding environment.

If you can post compelling evidence of this on this forum, I will also lobby my MP and MEP in the UK to raise this as an issue.

[cannedmoose]

Sorry to move slightly off topic (still on books though), does anyone know the website address for the Rustem Bookshop in Lefkosa? I did have it bookmarked but lost it. They publish a book that I'm going to acquire through the British library but I can't remember its exact details which are on the site. If anyone knows, can you let me know ASAP either by PM or in this thread.

Many thanks,

Moose

Found the book in question from Amazon.com... looking forward to reading about the Turkish Cypriot state... Anyone know any other books about TC politics? (preferably in English)

[garbitsch]

There you go moosie: http://hazirweb.kktc.net/006/index.html

[cannedmoose]

Thanks Garb...

[MicAtCyp]

Suetoniuspaulinus,

Good evening to you too honourable friend.

NGOs, Environmentalists, individual people, the EU Greens, everybody reacted to this issue my friend.But what can anyone do when he spends all his energy reacting for the wrong reason, and then even having our own government againsts us.

Let me explain how the issue evolved:
First the British said they wanted to erect 2 Antenas one small and one big.The terms are relevant because he actually talk about a huge and a huger one.The small one is equal to a football field the big one 3-4 times as much.For this purpose they asked permission to dry out the salt lake inside the British bases in Limassol. At this point the Greens reacted because that would destroy the environment, and all the birds and species of the lake.They made a really big fuss and got all the support from the Greens in Europe.
At this stage the Americans got furious and started pressing hard because they wanted the erection to finish in the summer (or else they would lose one year because in winter the lake fills up with water).So their server in Cyprus our President Mr Clerides aggreed with all their proposals to restore the environment by planting low trees, bushes, bring some rabits in etc so he gave his OK-perhaps on exchange of some political "benefits".

When the small one was erected the Electricity Authority anounced that only for that one the British consume 500 KWh. This is equivalent to what 750 houses consume!Immediately some experts announced that these Antenas should not actually be receivers but transmitters. Because receiving antenas don't consume any electricity (e.g our TV antenas) and thus are totally harmless.The maximum power required if they were just receivers would be about 15-20 KWh for the amplifiers and some other machinery. The representative of the British bases initially denied they are transmitters.Later however under the pressure of experts he admitted it.
So a new fuss started concerning the consequences on peoples health because such a huge Electromagnetic radiation (EMR) thrown out in Limassol is equal to a slow atomic bomb.Unfortunately at this time we had our own Government clearly against us. In fact they arranged with the British and they together took readings of EMR and those readings were found to be absolutely safe and within EU limits! The issue now was techniical and very difficult to make ordinary people understand and support any struggle. In fact all people trusted what the government said.

The problem is that many experts are absolutely certain that those readings were either faque or taken when the Antenas were running on minimum power. However noone could do anything to prove them wrong because
a)The antenas don't transmit continuously.They may transmit 1-2 hours every day, or 1-2 hours every month.Nobody knows when the British need to transmit data, so one needs their cooperation to take new readings. There was one proffessor from Greece who got interested but they refused to accept him.
b)One has to have access to their machinery to see if they trnsmit on minimum or maximum power. Of course these machinery or so highly confidential that logically the British would not let anyone go near them. (Please read about the "Echelon system" at Google.What it can do is beyond imagination.)

So here we are today.On one hand most people trusting their governmrent that everything is OK and fine and on the other some people who beleive that irrespective of how often the antenas transmit, sooner or later we will have massive cases of leukemia especially among the children in Limassol.I belong to the second group. This is one of the few times I wish with all my heart I am wrong....

[MicAtCyp]

Moose,

Please read my reply to SuetoniumPaulinus.
You are asking for too my evidence from me man. The issue is too old and I dont have anything saved on my HD. Perhaps if you make a search at hri.org with key words "Ladies mile" you can find the proof you want.

Sorry my friend, I discuss many issues, I am not a Politician who keeps records of everything, I am not doing a Phd either.