Oracle wrote:Tim Drayton wrote:I am back, then.
I want Paphitis back!
I love Tim and Paphitis and Jerry.
Reh Paphiti, get back here mate. These are interesting times in the National Struggle.
.. Or else I'll start spelling Paphos with an "f"
Oracle wrote:Tim Drayton wrote:I am back, then.
I want Paphitis back!
Jerry wrote:The fact that the slogan is racially offensive to Turks is enough to object to it, translation or context has little to do with it unless it is qualified each time it is posted. Even then it's still offensive in my opinion.
Paphitis wrote:Svetlana wrote:
With my Moderator's hat on; clearly a number of people find the Signature offensive; the problem (possibly) lies with different interpration of the translation.
The matter is now with Admin, whom, in his immense wisdom (and Greek/English dictionary!) will rule on its acceptablity.
Lana
That won't be necessary.
I have removed the signature but will also remove myself from this forum.
I have had my say, made friends and enemies, learned all I need to learn about Cyprus and so there is no point in continuing any further.
I wish you all the best. Some of you can remain in contact via email or phone if you wish, but I can't continue on a forum where people can't express themselves however they like.
Please note that I do not endorse the phrase as it is not to my tastes.
miltiades wrote:Tim Drayton wrote:I am back, then.
It is hard to draw the line between protecting free speech and banning outright racist or fascist slogans, but I think this one clearly crossed the line.
If anybody is interested or concerned enough, this same slogan is to be found painted in a prominent place beside a main road in Mesa Geitonia, Limassol near the junction of Grigori Afxentiou and Spyrou Kyprianou.
Welcome back Tim . Have noted the location of this slogan and will attend to it on my next visit !!!
Byron wrote:Oracle wrote:Tim Drayton wrote:I am back, then.
I want Paphitis back!
I strongly second that,
Most fools here do not understand the Greek language, the slogan does not say death to the TURKS which most members believe it to mean.
Byron wrote:Jerry wrote:The fact that the slogan is racially offensive to Turks is enough to object to it, translation or context has little to do with it unless it is qualified each time it is posted. Even then it's still offensive in my opinion.
I suppose the Turkish invasion of Cyprus is not offensive but we still endure the occupation !!!
umit07 wrote:Oracle wrote:umit07 wrote:WTF is going on here FFS? Does this saying literally mean " the only good turk is a dead turk" ? YES or NO? if "YES" then it is racist and utterly stupid.
umit07 ... I don't know the origins of this maxim. We need someone like AlexISS who is well versed on matters political and historical.
But the translation you have opted for ... branded by reactionary fools (like Miltiades) is definitely wrong.
A closer translation, I would say, bearing in mind linguistics nuances, would be "Only in death can a Turk be good" ... which as axioms go, is a pretty standard aphorism to make an example of those who habitually err.
The problem with you and Bafidi is that nationalistic hate has blinded you both. The facts are that the axiom is widely used by ultra nationalistic greeks on their neo-nazi style websites.
Stop trying to play the devils advocate
Oracle wrote:miltiades wrote:Oracle wrote:Tim Drayton wrote:I am back, then.
I want Paphitis back!
He will after he posts his ... epitaph on a grave stone !!!
Until then you have me , you lucky woman
Fuck off ....
(Well, you did tell me not to show off with vocabulary!)
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