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[Svetlana]

...but that was a Tuesday!

Lana

[Sotos]

How important is build quality too you? How important is the fact that you can keep your laptop for 7 or 8 years while upgrading software ? How important is the re sale value to you ? How important is better memory management and stability to you ? How important is not running anti virus software ? By the way Sotos you can also run windows on a mac now. Apple are the only company which develop and build hardware and software giving them a unique position. Oh and yes design and style is also high on the list ! Take your time and watch some of the quicktime keynotes available. The halo effect from the ipod and iphone is pushing apple to the forefront at the moment.

http://www.apple.com/quicktime/guide/appleevents/

There has to be other mac heads on the forum to back me up surely ?

Build quality of Macs is very good but they are not the only ones who have good quality. You can find other notebooks with equally good build quality and specs for less money. And I have a PC which is 10 years old and it still works with Win XP on it, just not as fast. The same would be with a Mac no difference here. And stability is fine on XP. On my system it never crashes and have no problems. Macs are good but you pay a premium for looks an fashion.

[Sotos]

Hi Sotos

How do you know I am not a teenager

Strange you should mention the difficulty of reading text (on a Mac HD screen). I had to click on 'Enlarge Text' twice before I could comfortably use it; its owner is even younger than me and has much better eyesight!
Certainly, photos came up well on the screen and I am used to a pretty good Sony WUXGA screen on my laptop and high quality Sony 23" screen on my PC.

As to GR's point about having to relearn the OS; I don't delve into anything beyond the superficial level, so beyond coming to terms with Safari, which I have on my Iphone anyway, that is not too much of a problem.

Interestingly, in one chapter of my life, I used to sell Computer sytems, so know absolutely nothing about IT - product knowledge would only have confused me!

Lana

Lana if all you need is to use Safari, itunes and some simple apps like that then you don't need to pay so much for a laptop. If you already have a Desktop computer then do you really need such a big notebook? Maybe you could do better with a smaller and lighter notebook which doesn't have so high specs. It will be much more mobile and you will not be throwing away money for no reason.

[bill cobbett]

Our beloved Mod

Had Macs for what seem s like decades. Three working ones here at home, all home market iMacs, not the high end pro ones. We also have one peesy which I stay away from.

All of them work straight out of the box, never freeze, and in all these years and years no viruses.

In earlier machines it was useful to know a little about the OS to sort out problems but since the intro of the current OS X you wouldn't know you had an operating system, which is the way it should be.

Safari on the iphone is a very, very slimmed down version of what you get on the macs where you get a sleek, quick and fully featured browser.

As to cost, you have to compare like with like so really the equivalent to the MacbookPro is probably something like the comparably priced Sony Vio but I would ask (as S says) do you need something as powerful and pricey as that? The 17" is a beautiful and powerful machine but it's big and heavy.

Up to a few months ago the major differences between the MacbookPros and the home MacBooks was that the former had a separate graphics card, the cheaper Macbooks now have a separate and pretty fast graphics processor. The cheaper MacBooks had the (easy to scratch?) white polycarbonate case, they now have a durable and very lovely aluminium case.

Some GB prices for you:-
MacBook 13" £929
MacBook Pro 15" £1369
MacBook Pro 17" £1949

..but leaving the irrelevance of money and technology aside, all Macs come with a beautiful, to die for, that fashion statement for the girl about town that is.......




...the Apple logo on the front cover, one of the World's Greatest Ever Fashion Icons telling the plebs that you're a lady of style, great fashion taste and impeccably good judgement. A girl that won't do with second best in anything, a girl to be envied and copied.....

......er.....Apple Sevetlana?

[CBBB]

This Apple doesn't fit, do you have it in another colour?

[boomerang]

software is a big problem for macs....the selection for an IBM is larger by far...if you need something in a hurry and know where to look, you can download it for free...

apple controls all the software and if they dislike something it's banned...

[Dr J]

Apart from the software issue for Macs (which is changing since more and more programmers are making their products Mac compatible), then I think it beats PC's hands down in most departments. I recent went from PC to Mac and cant see myself going back.

An important quality Macs have over PC's is that PC have something like 2,000 known viruses while Macs have about 4.

Mac all the way.

[CBBB]

Few problems with viruses if you don't use Internet Explorer or Outlook.

[chedda]

With all due respects some people here are still propagating myths. It costs too much wa ha etc. People have been repeatedly challenged to out price an imac on countless occasions.(a quick visit mac vs pc on youtube) The only thing i hear is xp is very stable, for sure it is, it was launched in 2001 ! Apple regularly releases progressive operating system updates that do not often require hardware updates unlike the main competition MS.Ok macs are premium products no doubt each of there range has unique qualities. You mentioned the 17" macbook pro it is the worlds lightest 17" laptop and the thinnest ! It is hewn from a solid piece of aluminium, arsenic and mercury free and being aluminium is recyclable and green. Anyway Svetlana talk is cheap, go and hold a macbook air then we will see the result ! Do you really want a giant creaking ugly plastic box with 7 usb ports ? In truth once you have asked this question about switching, you only have one course of action. Otherwise you will never know !

[paliometoxo]

No, I am not thinking of rejoing C*prus 44...

While in the UK on a couple of trips, recently, I noticed that many people had moved across to Macs and I saw an excellent MacBook Pro with HD screen.

No longer does it seem that they are used solely by Graphic Designers; the quirkiness seemed to have been ironed out but the individualism remains.

They are not cheap though... am I looking in a dark abyss?

Lana

ever since i saw a imac allover the plac ei thoguht they looked good and thought of buying one the unix based osx is stable and very good for video espesially for people liek ijustine.com who do nothing but video blogging but it depends what u use it for really, the macs imo are a pain to use but you get used to it after a while, and u do not do much then why not? its the same thing if you just using it for web browsing and emails and such...
perosnally i am going to stick with windows 7 because iphone they cripple everything