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[Kikapu]

We will see...he may have to lick up what he spat out...or be inventive and provide other solutions. Ho the EU headache will continue to grow.

Or he may act line a TC and not do the above.!

[Viewpoint]

We will see...he may have to lick up what he spat out...or be inventive and provide other solutions. Ho the EU headache will continue to grow.

so the worlds most feared & respected community of 120,000 is going to make the EU commissioner for enlargement "eat up what he spat out"....good plan.

70,120.000 might do the trick.

[DT.]

We will see...he may have to lick up what he spat out...or be inventive and provide other solutions. Ho the EU headache will continue to grow.

so the worlds most feared & respected community of 120,000 is going to make the EU commissioner for enlargement "eat up what he spat out"....good plan.

70,120.000 might do the trick.

YOu planning to invade Brussels?

[Viewpoint]

We will see...he may have to lick up what he spat out...or be inventive and provide other solutions. Ho the EU headache will continue to grow.

so the worlds most feared & respected community of 120,000 is going to make the EU commissioner for enlargement "eat up what he spat out"....good plan.

70,120.000 might do the trick.

YOu planning to invade Brussels?

Turkey backed by the USA do carry some weight in Brussels, lets wait and see how things pan out but dont diss the EU when they do not do exactly what you want them to do, dont forget they backed the AP.

[DT.]

We will see...he may have to lick up what he spat out...or be inventive and provide other solutions. Ho the EU headache will continue to grow.

so the worlds most feared & respected community of 120,000 is going to make the EU commissioner for enlargement "eat up what he spat out"....good plan.

70,120.000 might do the trick.

YOu planning to invade Brussels?

Turkey backed by the USA do carry some weight in Brussels, lets wait and see how things pan out but dont diss the EU when they do not do exactly what you want them to do, dont forget they backed the AP.

Just like the ROmans "they knew not what they had done." FOrtunately they've seen the light now.

[humanist]

I doubt if the headache will continue, they'll just get the shits and enforce the international law based on human rights

[Hatter]

I have another take on this.

Talat knows very well that he cannot get what he really wants from the RoC, which would be something like the AP, and Turkey may also not allow him to agree to anything less that close to the AP, at least not publicly. Time is running out for both Talat and Turkey and if they actually wanted to agree on a settlement based on UN parameters and EU values, they will both lose face by giving into the RoC by agreeing to such a deal, both in the north and also in Turkey, so why not then agree on the International community to come up with another "Annan Plan" with the UN parameters and EU values adopted and present it to the people to vote on it with the blessings of Talat, Christofias and Turkey. Why else would Talat call this a "New Annan Plan" when Kofi Annan is no longer around.?

If my hunch is correct, shouldn't this be called the “Ban Ki-moon Plan” instead.? No, because AP is very much trusted and accepted psychologically by the TC's in the north and in Turkey, so I think it is to get the north to vote for this plan which in reality won't be anything like the old AP. So I think Kifeas has got it right, that the GC's will insist on such UN parameters and EU values to be part of any International deal put together, which the EU will not have it any other way anyway. This way, everyone will get what they want /don't want, but they do not have too many options really, because time is running out on Talat and Turkey, which will also provide a lot of "face saving" cover for them from their own people by taking this route.!

Is it possible that the call to the "international community" is just a device precsely to alleviate the timescale pressure?

[boomerang]

We will see...he may have to lick up what he spat out...or be inventive and provide other solutions. Ho the EU headache will continue to grow.

so the worlds most feared & respected community of 120,000 is going to make the EU commissioner for enlargement "eat up what he spat out"....good plan.

70,120.000 might do the trick.

YOu planning to invade Brussels?

Turkey backed by the USA do carry some weight in Brussels, lets wait and see how things pan out but dont diss the EU when they do not do exactly what you want them to do, dont forget they backed the AP.

and body slammed by the french and the germans already...

[james_mav]

We will see...he may have to lick up what he spat out...or be inventive and provide other solutions. Ho the EU headache will continue to grow.

so the worlds most feared & respected community of 120,000 is going to make the EU commissioner for enlargement "eat up what he spat out"....good plan.

70,120.000 might do the trick.

YOu planning to invade Brussels?

Turkey backed by the USA do carry some weight in Brussels, lets wait and see how things pan out but dont diss the EU when they do not do exactly what you want them to do, dont forget they backed the AP.

and body slammed by the french and the germans already...

One thing the turkish government understands well but the population does not is when turkey is negotiating from a position of strength, and when from a position of weakness. turks are used to their government negotiating in bilateral issues from a position of strength, either because of military might, or strong US support. On certain issues, this position of strength gets them something tangible (got away with invading and occupying a good chunk of Cyprus), and sometimes something symbolic (e.g. when turkey threw a hissy fit at the appointment of Anders Fogh Rasmussen as NATO's new secretary general.

However, just recently Turkey has been caught seriously overplaying her hand in negotiations with the EU - a recent (and on-going) example is the Nabucco negotiations. Turkey played hardball wanting to become a gas hub (i.e. buy cheaply from Caspian sea states who for geographic reasons have only one potential customer - turkey) and sell at a higher price into the European gas market, where there is a plethora of customers. Now just building and hosting the infrastructure is very lucrative for the turks, but why stop there? They could make money skimming on gas sales too. Anyway, after insisting would only go ahead on turkey's terms, the EU plainly stated that actually it would only go ahead on the EU's terms. Guess who eventually relented...

[boomerang]

We will see...he may have to lick up what he spat out...or be inventive and provide other solutions. Ho the EU headache will continue to grow.

so the worlds most feared & respected community of 120,000 is going to make the EU commissioner for enlargement "eat up what he spat out"....good plan.

70,120.000 might do the trick.

YOu planning to invade Brussels?

Turkey backed by the USA do carry some weight in Brussels, lets wait and see how things pan out but dont diss the EU when they do not do exactly what you want them to do, dont forget they backed the AP.

and body slammed by the french and the germans already...

One thing the turkish government understands well but the population does not is when turkey is negotiating from a position of strength, and when from a position of weakness. turks are used to their government negotiating in bilateral issues from a position of strength, either because of military might, or strong US support. On certain issues, this position of strength gets them something tangible (got away with invading and occupying a good chunk of Cyprus), and sometimes something symbolic (e.g. when turkey threw a hissy fit at the appointment of Anders Fogh Rasmussen as NATO's new secretary general.

However, just recently Turkey has been caught seriously overplaying her hand in negotiations with the EU - a recent (and on-going) example is the Nabucco negotiations. Turkey played hardball wanting to become a gas hub (i.e. buy cheaply from Caspian sea states who for geographic reasons have only one potential customer - turkey) and sell at a higher price into the European gas market, where there is a plethora of customers. Now just building and hosting the infrastructure is very lucrative for the turks, but why stop there? They could make money skimming on gas sales too. Anyway, after insisting would only go ahead on turkey's terms, the EU plainly stated that actually it would only go ahead on the EU's terms. Guess who eventually relented...

the deep state always counts on her pimp to bail her out...the reason they even got a date was the arm twisting of EU by the pimp...