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[Oracle]

"Hoping to capitalize on the frustration, one Turkish businessman offered to buy several of the donkeys at 1,000 euros per head, and put them to tourism-related work in Antalya, Turkey."

Well if they are short of labourers then they should be taking their Settlers back to Turkey to work, not stealthily stealing our donkeys ....

You did not pick it up, but these donkeys are settlers too.

That's because you are completely wrong in your Napoleonic statement. Most of the larger Mediterranean islands had donkeys from thousands of years ago.

"Cypriot Donkey
Also known as the “Mercedes of Donkeys”; its distinguishably characterized by its exemplary long ears and a very friendly personality trait. Due to its almost professional and highly developed work trait and energetic health this Cypriot donkey are highly regarded and valued in different places like in Ottoman Syria and Palestine . It is not clear when the Cypriot donkey exactly emerged as a different and separate breed. It is clear, however, that it is markedly different from the common and more ordinary donkey of the Levant ."
Source: themules.net

"The earliest phase of the Bronze age (Philia-facies) saw a rapid transformation of technology and economy. Urn-burials of children were used for the first time, as well as rectangular buildings, the plough, the warp-weighted loom and clay pot stands. Cattle was reintroduced, together with the donkey. Marki Alonia is the best excavated settlement of this period.

In the Bronze Age the first cities, like Enkomi, were built. Systematic copper mining began, and this resource was widely traded. The early Cypriot period is synchronous with the end of the EBA in Tarsus (Cilicia) ca. 2.600 BC cal."
Source: mlahanas.

In that case I might have been misinformed. But I clearly read about the transfer from the Albanian mountains of donkeys during the Napoleonic period. I did not say none existed in Cyprus. The current ones must have derived from the mixture of both. Its a ity I no longer am in posession of my original source.

Stop making up rubbish Deniz .... What do you derive from it?
Some justification for the Anatolian settlers colonising Cyprus because someone, perhaps and maybe, brought a donkey over, at some point, and it happened to be from Albania, and it happened to be during Napoleonic times ...

Big deal!

Cyprus has had Donkeys for ... well ... Donkey's years!

[denizaksulu]

"Hoping to capitalize on the frustration, one Turkish businessman offered to buy several of the donkeys at 1,000 euros per head, and put them to tourism-related work in Antalya, Turkey."

Well if they are short of labourers then they should be taking their Settlers back to Turkey to work, not stealthily stealing our donkeys ....

You did not pick it up, but these donkeys are settlers too.

That's because you are completely wrong in your Napoleonic statement. Most of the larger Mediterranean islands had donkeys from thousands of years ago.

"Cypriot Donkey
Also known as the “Mercedes of Donkeys”; its distinguishably characterized by its exemplary long ears and a very friendly personality trait. Due to its almost professional and highly developed work trait and energetic health this Cypriot donkey are highly regarded and valued in different places like in Ottoman Syria and Palestine . It is not clear when the Cypriot donkey exactly emerged as a different and separate breed. It is clear, however, that it is markedly different from the common and more ordinary donkey of the Levant ."
Source: themules.net

"The earliest phase of the Bronze age (Philia-facies) saw a rapid transformation of technology and economy. Urn-burials of children were used for the first time, as well as rectangular buildings, the plough, the warp-weighted loom and clay pot stands. Cattle was reintroduced, together with the donkey. Marki Alonia is the best excavated settlement of this period.

In the Bronze Age the first cities, like Enkomi, were built. Systematic copper mining began, and this resource was widely traded. The early Cypriot period is synchronous with the end of the EBA in Tarsus (Cilicia) ca. 2.600 BC cal."
Source: mlahanas.

In that case I might have been misinformed. But I clearly read about the transfer from the Albanian mountains of donkeys during the Napoleonic period. I did not say none existed in Cyprus. The current ones must have derived from the mixture of both. Its a ity I no longer am in posession of my original source.

Stop making up rubbish Deniz .... What do you derive from it?
Some justification for the Anatolian settlers colonising Cyprus because someone, perhaps and maybe, brought a donkey over, at some point, and it happened to be from Albania, and it happened to be during Napoleonic times ...

Big deal!

Cyprus has had Donkeys for ... well ... Donkey's years!

I dont make things up Oracle. The Albanians must have gotten to Egypt somhow. I read it and that is what it said. Its just a pity I dont have that book any more. (pre-internet days. You are right. What would I gain from lying.

[Oracle]

"Hoping to capitalize on the frustration, one Turkish businessman offered to buy several of the donkeys at 1,000 euros per head, and put them to tourism-related work in Antalya, Turkey."

Well if they are short of labourers then they should be taking their Settlers back to Turkey to work, not stealthily stealing our donkeys ....

You did not pick it up, but these donkeys are settlers too.

That's because you are completely wrong in your Napoleonic statement. Most of the larger Mediterranean islands had donkeys from thousands of years ago.

"Cypriot Donkey
Also known as the “Mercedes of Donkeys”; its distinguishably characterized by its exemplary long ears and a very friendly personality trait. Due to its almost professional and highly developed work trait and energetic health this Cypriot donkey are highly regarded and valued in different places like in Ottoman Syria and Palestine . It is not clear when the Cypriot donkey exactly emerged as a different and separate breed. It is clear, however, that it is markedly different from the common and more ordinary donkey of the Levant ."
Source: themules.net

"The earliest phase of the Bronze age (Philia-facies) saw a rapid transformation of technology and economy. Urn-burials of children were used for the first time, as well as rectangular buildings, the plough, the warp-weighted loom and clay pot stands. Cattle was reintroduced, together with the donkey. Marki Alonia is the best excavated settlement of this period.

In the Bronze Age the first cities, like Enkomi, were built. Systematic copper mining began, and this resource was widely traded. The early Cypriot period is synchronous with the end of the EBA in Tarsus (Cilicia) ca. 2.600 BC cal."
Source: mlahanas.

In that case I might have been misinformed. But I clearly read about the transfer from the Albanian mountains of donkeys during the Napoleonic period. I did not say none existed in Cyprus. The current ones must have derived from the mixture of both. Its a ity I no longer am in posession of my original source.

Stop making up rubbish Deniz .... What do you derive from it?
Some justification for the Anatolian settlers colonising Cyprus because someone, perhaps and maybe, brought a donkey over, at some point, and it happened to be from Albania, and it happened to be during Napoleonic times ...

Big deal!

Cyprus has had Donkeys for ... well ... Donkey's years!

I dont make things up Oracle. The Albanians must have gotten to Egypt somhow. I read it and that is what it said. Its just a pity I dont have that book any more. (pre-internet days. You are right. What would I gain from lying.

So what exactly are you trying to say?

.... that all the evidence of Donkeys being in Cyprus for a few thousand years is meaningless? ... another myth? ... and some obscure book which you can't locate or remember details of, suggests there were no donkeys in Cyprus until Napoleon sent them over via Albania? ...

And all this because you want to justify the Turks sending over Settlers, like Napoleon sending over Donkeys ....

Have you been licking the arsenic encrusted wallpaper, Deniz?

Ooh la la ...

[denizaksulu]

"Hoping to capitalize on the frustration, one Turkish businessman offered to buy several of the donkeys at 1,000 euros per head, and put them to tourism-related work in Antalya, Turkey."

Well if they are short of labourers then they should be taking their Settlers back to Turkey to work, not stealthily stealing our donkeys ....

You did not pick it up, but these donkeys are settlers too.

That's because you are completely wrong in your Napoleonic statement. Most of the larger Mediterranean islands had donkeys from thousands of years ago.

"Cypriot Donkey
Also known as the “Mercedes of Donkeys”; its distinguishably characterized by its exemplary long ears and a very friendly personality trait. Due to its almost professional and highly developed work trait and energetic health this Cypriot donkey are highly regarded and valued in different places like in Ottoman Syria and Palestine . It is not clear when the Cypriot donkey exactly emerged as a different and separate breed. It is clear, however, that it is markedly different from the common and more ordinary donkey of the Levant ."
Source: themules.net

"The earliest phase of the Bronze age (Philia-facies) saw a rapid transformation of technology and economy. Urn-burials of children were used for the first time, as well as rectangular buildings, the plough, the warp-weighted loom and clay pot stands. Cattle was reintroduced, together with the donkey. Marki Alonia is the best excavated settlement of this period.

In the Bronze Age the first cities, like Enkomi, were built. Systematic copper mining began, and this resource was widely traded. The early Cypriot period is synchronous with the end of the EBA in Tarsus (Cilicia) ca. 2.600 BC cal."
Source: mlahanas.

In that case I might have been misinformed. But I clearly read about the transfer from the Albanian mountains of donkeys during the Napoleonic period. I did not say none existed in Cyprus. The current ones must have derived from the mixture of both. Its a ity I no longer am in posession of my original source.

Stop making up rubbish Deniz .... What do you derive from it?
Some justification for the Anatolian settlers colonising Cyprus because someone, perhaps and maybe, brought a donkey over, at some point, and it happened to be from Albania, and it happened to be during Napoleonic times ...

Big deal!

Cyprus has had Donkeys for ... well ... Donkey's years!

I dont make things up Oracle. The Albanians must have gotten to Egypt somhow. I read it and that is what it said. Its just a pity I dont have that book any more. (pre-internet days. You are right. What would I gain from lying.

So what exactly are you trying to say?

.... that all the evidence of Donkeys being in Cyprus for a few thousand years is meaningless? ... another myth? ... and some obscure book which you can't locate or remember details of, suggests there were no donkeys in Cyprus until Napoleon sent them over via Albania? ...

And all this because you want to justify the Turks sending over Settlers, like Napoleon sending over Donkeys ....

Have you been licking the arsenic encrusted wallpaper, Deniz?

Ooh la la ...

Yes dearest. It was a book I read more than 20 years ago by an European writer about the young Buonoparte. On reading it my ears pricked up because of the Albanians I remembered living in Cyprus. Why mock. There were no Bedford in those days. The many thousands of Albanians who descended into the Levant had to have pack animals. No where did I suggest that Cyprus was devoid of asses. Look around, they are still here and there.

[Oracle]

Yes dearest. It was a book I read more than 20 years ago by an European writer about the young Buonoparte. On reading it my ears pricked up because of the Albanians I remembered living in Cyprus. Why mock. There were no Bedford in those days. The many thousands of Albanians who descended into the Levant had to have pack animals. No where did I suggest that Cyprus was devoid of asses. Look around, they are still here and there.

They have been here and there, alongside the natives, and very well assimilated, I may add ... for thousands of years, as shown with credible evidence.

If some obscure book says some Albanian took a donkey to Egypt for Napoleon, then so what?

That story does not excuse you butting in with some kind of comparison of the recent colonisation by Anatolians, of Cyprus, to that of the introduction of donkeys, some thousands of years ago.

So, why does it give the Turks the right to remove our donkeys without RoC permission? If there is not enough room for our donkeys, it's because the Turks have been flooding the Island with dumb Anatolians ... (like kentish ).

[denizaksulu]

If people do not butt in with addirional info, there would be no point of the CF.

Goodnight O and dream of your asses.

[Oracle]

If people do not butt in with addirional info, there would be no point of the CF.

Goodnight O and dream of your asses.

I don't mind additional info ... but how exactly does your obscure almost-recollection fit into that category? And you really get up my goat when you go all Turkish-patriotic on me!

Anyway .... here's one Cypriot that never disappoints




Sweet dreams ....

[denizaksulu]

If people do not butt in with addirional info, there would be no point of the CF.

Goodnight O and dream of your asses.

I don't mind additional info ... but how exactly does your obscure almost-recollection fit into that category? And you really get up my goat when you go all Turkish-patriotic on me!

Anyway .... here's one Cypriot that never disappoints




Sweet dreams ....

Your goat is safe O. You can hav your donkey. He is all yours.

Ungrateful wimin

[ahristos]

TURK BEYIR HEH
MOSTELLY IN THAT TIMES MUSLEMS ARNAVUT THOTE THAT THEY ARE TURKS
THEY LOST IN OSMANS DAYS THEM FAITH PREVIUS WASH CHRISTIANITY BUT TURKS HAVE CORRUPT
ALBANIANS GIVEN THEM STOLEN LAND FROM SERBS SEE COSSOVA
AND FROM GREEKS SEE IPIRUS AND SULTAN TOOK MENY TO OWN SERVICE
US GOVERNERS DYNASTY OF IBRAHIM PASHA AND MEHMET ALI
ALSO IN VILAETS OF MESSOPOTAMIA IRAQ PALESTINE ECT IN TOP PLACES SULTANS HAD SET BOSNIACS
ALBANIANS AND ISLAMISED BULGARIANS ALSO IN OTHERS CHRISTIAN PROVINCES PHANARIOTS HAD SERV SULTAN ROMANIA BULGARIA ECT TODAY MENY ALBANIANS BACK GROUND ARE IN TURKEY
FROM BALCANS WARS TIME 55%TYPICALLY OF ALBANIANS ARE MUSLEMS THE RESTS ARE CHRISTIANS
BUT ALLAH DONT CONTROLS ALBANIA HOXJA HAS MAKE BIG REFORME IN ISOLATION OF 60 YEARS
SO EVEN THOSE 55% WHOM I CALL MUSLEMS SOME % DONT WOND ANY CONTACT WITH ISLAM
THEY CALL THEM SELFS ATHEISTS OR PRAGMATISTS LIKE ----KEMAL ---WHO HAS HUNG ALLOTS ISLAMISTS
IN REFORMES TIMES THAT IS THE BIGEST REASON WHY HE HAS THROW AWAY ARAB SCRIPTIC
FOR TO MAKE DIFFICULITY IN ACCES OF CURAN TO TURKS IN 1924 TURKEY ADOPTS LATIN ALPHABET

[insan]

TURK BEYIR HEH
MOSTELLY IN THAT TIMES MUSLEMS ARNAVUT THOTE THAT THEY ARE TURKS
THEY LOST IN OSMANS DAYS THEM FAITH PREVIUS WASH CHRISTIANITY BUT TURKS HAVE CORRUPT
ALBANIANS GIVEN THEM STOLEN LAND FROM SERBS SEE COSSOVA
AND FROM GREEKS SEE IPIRUS AND SULTAN TOOK MENY TO OWN SERVICE
US GOVERNERS DYNASTY OF IBRAHIM PASHA AND MEHMET ALI
ALSO IN VILAETS OF MESSOPOTAMIA IRAQ PALESTINE ECT IN TOP PLACES SULTANS HAD SET BOSNIACS
ALBANIANS AND ISLAMISED BULGARIANS ALSO IN OTHERS CHRISTIAN PROVINCES PHANARIOTS HAD SERV SULTAN ROMANIA BULGARIA ECT TODAY MENY ALBANIANS BACK GROUND ARE IN TURKEY
FROM BALCANS WARS TIME 55%TYPICALLY OF ALBANIANS ARE MUSLEMS THE RESTS ARE CHRISTIANS
BUT ALLAH DONT CONTROLS ALBANIA HOXJA HAS MAKE BIG REFORME IN ISOLATION OF 60 YEARS
SO EVEN THOSE 55% WHOM I CALL MUSLEMS SOME % DONT WOND ANY CONTACT WITH ISLAM
THEY CALL THEM SELFS ATHEISTS OR PRAGMATISTS LIKE ----KEMAL ---WHO HAS HUNG ALLOTS ISLAMISTS
IN REFORMES TIMES THAT IS THE BIGEST REASON WHY HE HAS THROW AWAY ARAB SCRIPTIC
FOR TO MAKE DIFFICULITY IN ACCES OF CURAN TO TURKS IN 1924 TURKEY ADOPTS LATIN ALPHABET

Hmmm... So? U love Atatürk?