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Viewpoint and Kikapu call it quits.

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby YFred » Sun May 24, 2009 11:57 am

james_mav wrote:
YFred wrote:
james_mav wrote:
YFred wrote:Debating with Kiks is like banging your head against the wall as he is into S&M complicated by gay issues. VP, wise decision. Reserve your energy for the real threat which most GCs ignore. Mainly those who advocate "The Only Good Turk is a Dead Turk". As well as for those who teach it in schools.

There is hope for peace yet.

Good advice.


James, we need some more information though. How widespread is this idea. Are most teaches of this view.

In terms of percentage of population, what percentage of people think like you.

I am not in a position to say how widespread it is. Most Greeks I know would agree with me, but I suspect that there is a degree of self selection bias going on. A great number would also deny it in order to conform to politically correct social norms. The strange thing is that Greeks don't seem to think the same thing about Greece's other historic enemies from both antiquity and modern times. For example, while a great number of Greeks may hate the united states, the average Greek doesn't hate the American people. Just not so with turks though.

Are you talking Greek Cypriot or Greeks and just as a measure how many do you know?
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Postby james_mav » Sun May 24, 2009 12:01 pm

YFred wrote:
james_mav wrote:
YFred wrote:
james_mav wrote:
YFred wrote:Debating with Kiks is like banging your head against the wall as he is into S&M complicated by gay issues. VP, wise decision. Reserve your energy for the real threat which most GCs ignore. Mainly those who advocate "The Only Good Turk is a Dead Turk". As well as for those who teach it in schools.

There is hope for peace yet.

Good advice.


James, we need some more information though. How widespread is this idea. Are most teaches of this view.

In terms of percentage of population, what percentage of people think like you.

I am not in a position to say how widespread it is. Most Greeks I know would agree with me, but I suspect that there is a degree of self selection bias going on. A great number would also deny it in order to conform to politically correct social norms. The strange thing is that Greeks don't seem to think the same thing about Greece's other historic enemies from both antiquity and modern times. For example, while a great number of Greeks may hate the united states, the average Greek doesn't hate the American people. Just not so with turks though.

Are you talking Greek Cypriot or Greeks and just as a measure how many do you know?

Are you taking the piss? Do you really believe that any Greek with any notion of his nation's culture and history does not harbour a hatred for turks? Do you know any Greeks?
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Postby james_mav » Sun May 24, 2009 12:15 pm

For those who actually have access to YouTube.

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Postby MR-from-NG » Sun May 24, 2009 12:24 pm

james_mav wrote:For those who actually have access to YouTube.



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Postby YFred » Sun May 24, 2009 12:37 pm

james_mav wrote:
YFred wrote:
james_mav wrote:
YFred wrote:
james_mav wrote:
YFred wrote:Debating with Kiks is like banging your head against the wall as he is into S&M complicated by gay issues. VP, wise decision. Reserve your energy for the real threat which most GCs ignore. Mainly those who advocate "The Only Good Turk is a Dead Turk". As well as for those who teach it in schools.

There is hope for peace yet.

Good advice.


James, we need some more information though. How widespread is this idea. Are most teaches of this view.

In terms of percentage of population, what percentage of people think like you.

I am not in a position to say how widespread it is. Most Greeks I know would agree with me, but I suspect that there is a degree of self selection bias going on. A great number would also deny it in order to conform to politically correct social norms. The strange thing is that Greeks don't seem to think the same thing about Greece's other historic enemies from both antiquity and modern times. For example, while a great number of Greeks may hate the united states, the average Greek doesn't hate the American people. Just not so with turks though.

Are you talking Greek Cypriot or Greeks and just as a measure how many do you know?

Are you taking the piss? Do you really believe that any Greek with any notion of his nation's culture and history does not harbour a hatred for turks? Do you know any Greeks?

No I am not. I have met many Greeks and Greek Cypriots and have never heard such sentiments. I suspect that those who feel like you do, would not befriend a TC, which is why I wouldn't have come across it.

One Greek friend asked me not to get offended and said that her mother suggested that she should not allow her child to become friends with my child in case one day we slit her throat. We laughed it off and excused it as the old girl is 85 years old. Now if the younger generation harbour the same feelings that is a different kettle of fish altogether.
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Postby james_mav » Sun May 24, 2009 12:42 pm

YFred wrote:
james_mav wrote:
YFred wrote:
james_mav wrote:
YFred wrote:
james_mav wrote:
YFred wrote:Debating with Kiks is like banging your head against the wall as he is into S&M complicated by gay issues. VP, wise decision. Reserve your energy for the real threat which most GCs ignore. Mainly those who advocate "The Only Good Turk is a Dead Turk". As well as for those who teach it in schools.

There is hope for peace yet.

Good advice.


James, we need some more information though. How widespread is this idea. Are most teaches of this view.

In terms of percentage of population, what percentage of people think like you.

I am not in a position to say how widespread it is. Most Greeks I know would agree with me, but I suspect that there is a degree of self selection bias going on. A great number would also deny it in order to conform to politically correct social norms. The strange thing is that Greeks don't seem to think the same thing about Greece's other historic enemies from both antiquity and modern times. For example, while a great number of Greeks may hate the united states, the average Greek doesn't hate the American people. Just not so with turks though.

Are you talking Greek Cypriot or Greeks and just as a measure how many do you know?

Are you taking the piss? Do you really believe that any Greek with any notion of his nation's culture and history does not harbour a hatred for turks? Do you know any Greeks?

No I am not. I have met many Greeks and Greek Cypriots and have never heard such sentiments. I suspect that those who feel like you do, would not befriend a TC, which is why I wouldn't have come across it.

One Greek friend asked me not to get offended and said that her mother suggested that she should not allow her child to become friends with my child in case one day we slit her throat. We laughed it off and excused it as the old girl is 85 years old. Now if the younger generation harbour the same feelings that is a different kettle of fish altogether.

Well I can guarantee you that the younger generation harbour the same feelings. I have not and would never keep company with turks and my children go to a school that would never permit the enrollment of turk students.
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Postby Viewpoint » Sun May 24, 2009 12:44 pm

Of course GCs will back Kikapu because he is fighting their cormer harder then GCs themselves, which leads me to believe he is one of them. All he has to offer is capitulation to GC demands all disguised under the veil of "democracy".
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Postby YFred » Sun May 24, 2009 12:45 pm

james_mav wrote:
YFred wrote:
james_mav wrote:
YFred wrote:
james_mav wrote:
YFred wrote:
james_mav wrote:
YFred wrote:Debating with Kiks is like banging your head against the wall as he is into S&M complicated by gay issues. VP, wise decision. Reserve your energy for the real threat which most GCs ignore. Mainly those who advocate "The Only Good Turk is a Dead Turk". As well as for those who teach it in schools.

There is hope for peace yet.

Good advice.


James, we need some more information though. How widespread is this idea. Are most teaches of this view.

In terms of percentage of population, what percentage of people think like you.

I am not in a position to say how widespread it is. Most Greeks I know would agree with me, but I suspect that there is a degree of self selection bias going on. A great number would also deny it in order to conform to politically correct social norms. The strange thing is that Greeks don't seem to think the same thing about Greece's other historic enemies from both antiquity and modern times. For example, while a great number of Greeks may hate the united states, the average Greek doesn't hate the American people. Just not so with turks though.

Are you talking Greek Cypriot or Greeks and just as a measure how many do you know?

Are you taking the piss? Do you really believe that any Greek with any notion of his nation's culture and history does not harbour a hatred for turks? Do you know any Greeks?

No I am not. I have met many Greeks and Greek Cypriots and have never heard such sentiments. I suspect that those who feel like you do, would not befriend a TC, which is why I wouldn't have come across it.

One Greek friend asked me not to get offended and said that her mother suggested that she should not allow her child to become friends with my child in case one day we slit her throat. We laughed it off and excused it as the old girl is 85 years old. Now if the younger generation harbour the same feelings that is a different kettle of fish altogether.

Well I can guarantee you that the younger generation harbour the same feelings. I have not and would never keep company with turks and my children go to a school that would never permit the enrollment of turk students.

And yet you joined a forum knowing that there are TCs and you are talking to one now. How? and why?
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Postby james_mav » Sun May 24, 2009 12:48 pm

YFred wrote:
james_mav wrote:
YFred wrote:
james_mav wrote:
YFred wrote:
james_mav wrote:
YFred wrote:
james_mav wrote:
YFred wrote:Debating with Kiks is like banging your head against the wall as he is into S&M complicated by gay issues. VP, wise decision. Reserve your energy for the real threat which most GCs ignore. Mainly those who advocate "The Only Good Turk is a Dead Turk". As well as for those who teach it in schools.

There is hope for peace yet.

Good advice.


James, we need some more information though. How widespread is this idea. Are most teaches of this view.

In terms of percentage of population, what percentage of people think like you.

I am not in a position to say how widespread it is. Most Greeks I know would agree with me, but I suspect that there is a degree of self selection bias going on. A great number would also deny it in order to conform to politically correct social norms. The strange thing is that Greeks don't seem to think the same thing about Greece's other historic enemies from both antiquity and modern times. For example, while a great number of Greeks may hate the united states, the average Greek doesn't hate the American people. Just not so with turks though.

Are you talking Greek Cypriot or Greeks and just as a measure how many do you know?

Are you taking the piss? Do you really believe that any Greek with any notion of his nation's culture and history does not harbour a hatred for turks? Do you know any Greeks?

No I am not. I have met many Greeks and Greek Cypriots and have never heard such sentiments. I suspect that those who feel like you do, would not befriend a TC, which is why I wouldn't have come across it.

One Greek friend asked me not to get offended and said that her mother suggested that she should not allow her child to become friends with my child in case one day we slit her throat. We laughed it off and excused it as the old girl is 85 years old. Now if the younger generation harbour the same feelings that is a different kettle of fish altogether.

Well I can guarantee you that the younger generation harbour the same feelings. I have not and would never keep company with turks and my children go to a school that would never permit the enrollment of turk students.

And yet you joined a forum knowing that there are TCs and you are talking to one now. How? and why?

If you successfully explain why posting to this forum is inconsistent with anything I've previously said I'll consider answering this question.
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Postby YFred » Sun May 24, 2009 12:55 pm

james_mav wrote:
YFred wrote:
james_mav wrote:
YFred wrote:
james_mav wrote:
YFred wrote:
james_mav wrote:
YFred wrote:
james_mav wrote:
YFred wrote:Debating with Kiks is like banging your head against the wall as he is into S&M complicated by gay issues. VP, wise decision. Reserve your energy for the real threat which most GCs ignore. Mainly those who advocate "The Only Good Turk is a Dead Turk". As well as for those who teach it in schools.

There is hope for peace yet.

Good advice.


James, we need some more information though. How widespread is this idea. Are most teaches of this view.

In terms of percentage of population, what percentage of people think like you.

I am not in a position to say how widespread it is. Most Greeks I know would agree with me, but I suspect that there is a degree of self selection bias going on. A great number would also deny it in order to conform to politically correct social norms. The strange thing is that Greeks don't seem to think the same thing about Greece's other historic enemies from both antiquity and modern times. For example, while a great number of Greeks may hate the united states, the average Greek doesn't hate the American people. Just not so with turks though.

Are you talking Greek Cypriot or Greeks and just as a measure how many do you know?

Are you taking the piss? Do you really believe that any Greek with any notion of his nation's culture and history does not harbour a hatred for turks? Do you know any Greeks?

No I am not. I have met many Greeks and Greek Cypriots and have never heard such sentiments. I suspect that those who feel like you do, would not befriend a TC, which is why I wouldn't have come across it.

One Greek friend asked me not to get offended and said that her mother suggested that she should not allow her child to become friends with my child in case one day we slit her throat. We laughed it off and excused it as the old girl is 85 years old. Now if the younger generation harbour the same feelings that is a different kettle of fish altogether.

Well I can guarantee you that the younger generation harbour the same feelings. I have not and would never keep company with turks and my children go to a school that would never permit the enrollment of turk students.

And yet you joined a forum knowing that there are TCs and you are talking to one now. How? and why?

If you successfully explain why posting to this forum is inconsistent with anything I've previously said I'll consider answering this question.

No there is no inconstancy. In fact I find you easier to get on with than at least 10 GCs on this forum, which I can’t be bothered to type as well as maybe one TC? I do feel that you are saying what they would like to say but don't have the balls to come out and say it.

What would be interesting to me is if you do not wish to mix with TCs then why have you joined? And why discuss with a TC anything? Do you think that you are going to convince them of your beliefs and then they will pack up and go?
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