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[Paphitis]

The indigenous T/Cs have the same right to be in Cyprus as any other Cypriot.
The settlers are , as we know , in Cyprus as a direct result of Turkey's efforts to alter the demographics of our island following the Turkish invasion of 1974.The T/Cs are not exuberantly happy with the huge influx of settlers mostly from remote parts of Eastern Turkey. On the other hand neither are they completely confident that the RoC has their interests too at heart. A responsible government ought to be seeing to be doing much more in reassuring the T/Cs that their future on our commonly owned island is secure and that their human rights would not be undermined.

You stupid Bozo. What more can the RoC do? We already give them passports, IDs, free healthcare, jobs etc etc.....

You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.

You have been sniffing to much coke...

From an idiot such as you what can one expect.
The national anthem of Greece is the one that the RoC has as its national anthem. Do you think we are sending the right message to the T/Cs ?
Do you think that we would ever accept the Turkish national anthem as our own ? Why then do we expect the T/Cs to do so. I know , declare war on Turkey so that ignoramus little pricks like you can watch the killings from the comfort of their own home !! Don't tell me you will fight for Cyprus you fool , your type is UNWANTED in Cyprus , bloody foreign gid !

Listen here you old fart!

What the hell does the national anthem have to do with them occupying Cyprus? Do you believe for one second that if we change our national anthem then the whole problem will be solved? You are even more STUPID than what I thought.

Why don't they remove their flag from Pendadaktilos you numbskull..

The Cyprus Government has absolutely no right to change the national anthem.

[YFred]

The indigenous T/Cs have the same right to be in Cyprus as any other Cypriot.
The settlers are , as we know , in Cyprus as a direct result of Turkey's efforts to alter the demographics of our island following the Turkish invasion of 1974.The T/Cs are not exuberantly happy with the huge influx of settlers mostly from remote parts of Eastern Turkey. On the other hand neither are they completely confident that the RoC has their interests too at heart. A responsible government ought to be seeing to be doing much more in reassuring the T/Cs that their future on our commonly owned island is secure and that their human rights would not be undermined.

Well said Miltiades, I'll second that.

I reckon both you and Miltiades should have a rave party....

If one wants to improve, one must accept own responsibilities for any given fault. It's only then we can move on. When one is in denial, we are stuck in a rut.

We have come to terms with our demons a long time ago.

We know what we did and that some things were wrong, but this changes nothing because Turkey is still occupying Cyprus and 180,000 refugees are not able to return to their villages.

Back to the chicken and the egg. Turkey is there because there is no peace agreement. How many times do we have to repeat before it gets through. When the peace agreement is signed she will go with a fair number of settlers.
Comprehendo or shall I write it in greek?
Enna baun istin Turkian.

There will only be a solution based on a real BBFederation, where all human and democratic rights are observed, and where the solution is in line with the principles from which the EU was founded. Anything different than that, then you can forget it!

So can you!

[Paphitis]

The indigenous T/Cs have the same right to be in Cyprus as any other Cypriot.
The settlers are , as we know , in Cyprus as a direct result of Turkey's efforts to alter the demographics of our island following the Turkish invasion of 1974.The T/Cs are not exuberantly happy with the huge influx of settlers mostly from remote parts of Eastern Turkey. On the other hand neither are they completely confident that the RoC has their interests too at heart. A responsible government ought to be seeing to be doing much more in reassuring the T/Cs that their future on our commonly owned island is secure and that their human rights would not be undermined.

Well said Miltiades, I'll second that.

I reckon both you and Miltiades should have a rave party....

If one wants to improve, one must accept own responsibilities for any given fault. It's only then we can move on. When one is in denial, we are stuck in a rut.

We have come to terms with our demons a long time ago.

We know what we did and that some things were wrong, but this changes nothing because Turkey is still occupying Cyprus and 180,000 refugees are not able to return to their villages.

Back to the chicken and the egg. Turkey is there because there is no peace agreement. How many times do we have to repeat before it gets through. When the peace agreement is signed she will go with a fair number of settlers.
Comprehendo or shall I write it in greek?
Enna baun istin Turkian.

There will only be a solution based on a real BBFederation, where all human and democratic rights are observed, and where the solution is in line with the principles from which the EU was founded. Anything different than that, then you can forget it!

So can you!

I have this and observed it for every day of my life. The problem is, the TCs haven't for the last 35 years.

[bill cobbett]

The indigenous T/Cs have the same right to be in Cyprus as any other Cypriot.
The settlers are , as we know , in Cyprus as a direct result of Turkey's efforts to alter the demographics of our island following the Turkish invasion of 1974.The T/Cs are not exuberantly happy with the huge influx of settlers mostly from remote parts of Eastern Turkey. On the other hand neither are they completely confident that the RoC has their interests too at heart. A responsible government ought to be seeing to be doing much more in reassuring the T/Cs that their future on our commonly owned island is secure and that their human rights would not be undermined.

You stupid Bozo. What more can the RoC do? We already give them passports, IDs, free healthcare, jobs etc etc.....

You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.

You have been sniffing to much coke...

I'm not so sure any TC's hold official RoC jobs/posts, nor would I imagine any work in any sort of up and coming sector. More like they are employed as labourers and nothing else.
So passports, yes.
Healthcare, yes.

Jobs only for manual labour work no-one else is prepared to do. imo.

out of the 700 TCs that are permanent residents in the RoC, many have public sector jobs.

There are TCs that work for the CyBC, Department of Road Transport and Communications, and the Civil Aviation Department. I know this from personal experience...

We are not talking about TC's that reside in the RoC even though you've twisted it to suit you that way/

Where's the twist LondonBoy/Girl? Pretty clear that P claims 700 permanent "tc" residents of the RoC, many of who have civil service jobs. Pretty simple.

If you dispute this put up some other figures.

[YFred]

The indigenous T/Cs have the same right to be in Cyprus as any other Cypriot.
The settlers are , as we know , in Cyprus as a direct result of Turkey's efforts to alter the demographics of our island following the Turkish invasion of 1974.The T/Cs are not exuberantly happy with the huge influx of settlers mostly from remote parts of Eastern Turkey. On the other hand neither are they completely confident that the RoC has their interests too at heart. A responsible government ought to be seeing to be doing much more in reassuring the T/Cs that their future on our commonly owned island is secure and that their human rights would not be undermined.

You stupid Bozo. What more can the RoC do? We already give them passports, IDs, free healthcare, jobs etc etc.....

You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.

You have been sniffing to much coke...

From an idiot such as you what can one expect.
The national anthem of Greece is the one that the RoC has as its national anthem. Do you think we are sending the right message to the T/Cs ?
Do you think that we would ever accept the Turkish national anthem as our own ? Why then do we expect the T/Cs to do so. I know , declare war on Turkey so that ignoramus little pricks like you can watch the killings from the comfort of their own home !! Don't tell me you will fight for Cyprus you fool , your type is UNWANTED in Cyprus , bloody foreign gid !

Listen here you old fart!

What the hell does the national anthem have to do with them occupying Cyprus? Do you believe for one second that if we change our national anthem then the whole problem will be solved? You are even more STUPID than what I thought.

Why don't they remove their flag from Pendadaktilos you numbskull..

The Cyprus Government has absolutely no right to change the national anthem.

What? If the government has no right to change the national anthem, who has?
I think you lost it. Your greekness has got you by the short and curlies.

[Paphitis]

The indigenous T/Cs have the same right to be in Cyprus as any other Cypriot.
The settlers are , as we know , in Cyprus as a direct result of Turkey's efforts to alter the demographics of our island following the Turkish invasion of 1974.The T/Cs are not exuberantly happy with the huge influx of settlers mostly from remote parts of Eastern Turkey. On the other hand neither are they completely confident that the RoC has their interests too at heart. A responsible government ought to be seeing to be doing much more in reassuring the T/Cs that their future on our commonly owned island is secure and that their human rights would not be undermined.

You stupid Bozo. What more can the RoC do? We already give them passports, IDs, free healthcare, jobs etc etc.....

You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.

You have been sniffing to much coke...

I'm not so sure any TC's hold official RoC jobs/posts, nor would I imagine any work in any sort of up and coming sector. More like they are employed as labourers and nothing else.
So passports, yes.
Healthcare, yes.

Jobs only for manual labour work no-one else is prepared to do. imo.

A campaign ought to be embarked upon to encourage the educated professional T/Cs in applying for government positions especially within the European Parliament . There are many T/C professional people in the UK , lets target them make them feel that their country needs them , and let them know that their country is our country too devoid of bloody Greek and Turkish flags.

You are the biggest idiot I have ever met!

Yeh, whilst they occupy 36%, let's also give them control of the RoC for good measure.

The only TCs that have any right for public service jobs or even high office are the one's that are loyal to the RoC, and so far there are only 700 of them + Kikapu!

[Paphitis]

The indigenous T/Cs have the same right to be in Cyprus as any other Cypriot.
The settlers are , as we know , in Cyprus as a direct result of Turkey's efforts to alter the demographics of our island following the Turkish invasion of 1974.The T/Cs are not exuberantly happy with the huge influx of settlers mostly from remote parts of Eastern Turkey. On the other hand neither are they completely confident that the RoC has their interests too at heart. A responsible government ought to be seeing to be doing much more in reassuring the T/Cs that their future on our commonly owned island is secure and that their human rights would not be undermined.

You stupid Bozo. What more can the RoC do? We already give them passports, IDs, free healthcare, jobs etc etc.....

You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.

You have been sniffing to much coke...

From an idiot such as you what can one expect.
The national anthem of Greece is the one that the RoC has as its national anthem. Do you think we are sending the right message to the T/Cs ?
Do you think that we would ever accept the Turkish national anthem as our own ? Why then do we expect the T/Cs to do so. I know , declare war on Turkey so that ignoramus little pricks like you can watch the killings from the comfort of their own home !! Don't tell me you will fight for Cyprus you fool , your type is UNWANTED in Cyprus , bloody foreign gid !

Listen here you old fart!

What the hell does the national anthem have to do with them occupying Cyprus? Do you believe for one second that if we change our national anthem then the whole problem will be solved? You are even more STUPID than what I thought.

Why don't they remove their flag from Pendadaktilos you numbskull..

The Cyprus Government has absolutely no right to change the national anthem.

What? If the government has no right to change the national anthem, who has?
I think you lost it. Your greekness has got you by the short and curlies.

Only the people.

Such a thing would have to be brought to a referendum! This is what happens in democratic countries like the RoC and unlike the "trnc"...

[YFred]

The indigenous T/Cs have the same right to be in Cyprus as any other Cypriot.
The settlers are , as we know , in Cyprus as a direct result of Turkey's efforts to alter the demographics of our island following the Turkish invasion of 1974.The T/Cs are not exuberantly happy with the huge influx of settlers mostly from remote parts of Eastern Turkey. On the other hand neither are they completely confident that the RoC has their interests too at heart. A responsible government ought to be seeing to be doing much more in reassuring the T/Cs that their future on our commonly owned island is secure and that their human rights would not be undermined.

You stupid Bozo. What more can the RoC do? We already give them passports, IDs, free healthcare, jobs etc etc.....

You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.

You have been sniffing to much coke...

From an idiot such as you what can one expect.
The national anthem of Greece is the one that the RoC has as its national anthem. Do you think we are sending the right message to the T/Cs ?
Do you think that we would ever accept the Turkish national anthem as our own ? Why then do we expect the T/Cs to do so. I know , declare war on Turkey so that ignoramus little pricks like you can watch the killings from the comfort of their own home !! Don't tell me you will fight for Cyprus you fool , your type is UNWANTED in Cyprus , bloody foreign gid !

Listen here you old fart!

What the hell does the national anthem have to do with them occupying Cyprus? Do you believe for one second that if we change our national anthem then the whole problem will be solved? You are even more STUPID than what I thought.

Why don't they remove their flag from Pendadaktilos you numbskull..

The Cyprus Government has absolutely no right to change the national anthem.

What? If the government has no right to change the national anthem, who has?
I think you lost it. Your greekness has got you by the short and curlies.

Only the people.

Such a thing would have to be brought to a referendum! This is what happens in democratic countries like the RoC and unlike the "trnc"...

You need help. Please get some.

[bill cobbett]

The present anthem is musically shite. It's also a PR gift to the Occupation Junta.

Replace it with something that has real meaning like The Souvla Song.

[Sotos]

Are you after the first wave settlers too, Sotos, or are you now happy with them?

Why would I be happy with them? What is the difference between the first wave and the second wave? Did the first wave integrate with Cypriots? Are they compatible with Cypriots? Do they share our values? NO!! Turks brought their settlers here to change the demographics and expand against us. This is true for both the first wave and the second wave! There are a few exceptions but they are so few that they only confirm the rule!