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[demetriou_74]

i was wondering if there is a way of downloading entire albums without getting each one individually. this is not for me i use iTunes but my mate does not want to pay

[Hazza]

downloading is highly illegal and shouldn't be done. People that use a bit torrent client then go to piratebay.net to download full albums are very naughty.

[Main_Source]

dont mind downloading music that is deleted..but to download new music is only taking money away from the artist and going to create a music industry with little choice because record companies will not have as much money to gamble on new artists and will consistantly put out the commercial crap which is guaranteed to sell.

[Chrisswirl]

But that's the music industry already! Music should be cheap or free anyway, and to be honest, all the good artists make their money from touring, and people who download and like their music are more likely to a) buy their album in the fututre, and b) go to their tour (vastly more expensive but at the same better value than buying an album).

[devil]

As an author, I have seen bits of my technical books photocopied for distribution within companies and even the whole book, on occasion, rather than the criminals who did this purchasing a book for each interested person. I estimate that, if this was not done, I would probably have received twice or more as much in royalties. This is theft, pure and simple, just as much as going into a house and pocketing money or not paying for goods you subtilise off a supermarket shelf.

Even worse, university and other libraries have photocopiers at users' disposition. They are supposed to pay a per-copy fee to a central fund which distributes the proceeds to publishers and authors. I can assure you that neither my publisher nor I have ever received a penny from this source. It is a scam.

Downloading copyright material, whether it be music, the printed word or any other art form without the express permission of the copyright-holder is a criminal offence and should be punished. Sites (or individuals) which put up copyright material for free downloading are illegal and should also be punished and, in addition, they should pay royalties to the copyright-holder for every download, whether they receive payment or not.

Furthermore, each time you steal royalties from the copyright-holder and the author, not only are you committing a criminal offence against international copyright law (the Bern Convention), you are not providing the means for the author to produce more art.

Do I make myself quite clear? Do NOT participate in crime.

[Main_Source]

Chris that IS the music industry now because illegal downloading and distrbution has dented monies within the music industry.

and Chris...how is a new artist who is original going to break through if record companies dont have enough in their budget set aside on someone different. How is he even supposed to establish himself to have enough fans to do tours, if record companies dont have the budget to market them.

and why the hell should music be free!? it costs a lot of money to market an artist, press up music, distribute, as well as recording material...where is that money going to come from? You cant say doing tours...because a new artist wont have a big enough fan base to command huge concerts.

As a big vinyl collector...I have no respect for people who download all there music lol. I dont want to get to a certain age and just see TDK74 or JVCRW80 in my music collection lol. If your passionate about music, you will BUY your music.

[Hazza]

The amount of money that I have wasted on buying albums and they end up being total tripe, would the music industry give me a full refund?

I will openly admit to downloading albums, and yes, I do keep them on my computer. IF the album is any good, then I WILL go and buy it. If I don't believe that it warrants the money that is asked for it, then I will not be spending money on it.

What I'd rather happen is the music industry getting their dedicated servers and networks in order and charge for an album or a song to be downloaded. Rather than pay £10 or £12 for a CD which is always a gamble, I'd be more than happy to legally download it for £2 or £3 without all the fancy artwork or pretty CD's.

[Main_Source]

what you dont understand is that the less money going into the music industry will mean less quality of music overall. people like you is killing the music scene and just forcing record companies to put out the crap that they ahve been doing lately to guarantee money.

[cannedmoose]

Have to say I agree with Hazza... as consumers we've been ripped off for too long... not necessarily the artist's fault but largely down to the music industry's cartel behaviour. If they gave us the option of listening to a track a few times for free and then choosing which ones to download for a fair price it'd be better than flogging us plastic CD covers with fold-out covers and CDs, which are both wasteful of material and require resources to ship them around the world.

As for illegal downloading, I'm the same as Hazza. If I really like a track, most times I will actually seek out the album and buy it. I view my downloading as a taster and offering me the opportunity to come across music that I would never normally have been able to access.

[Main_Source]

Moose, you say you cant listen to tracks before you buy them but that is the retailers fault...not the record company. IF you go to certrain music outlets, they have headphones for you to listen to a CD before deciding to buy the CD. I know the record shops i go to, I always listen before I buy.

Also, thats what the single is there for...a single is just a promo for the up coming album.

and the CD covers arent a waste of material...trust me, if you collect music as oppose to just buying a CD at ASDA because its in your face as you pay for your shopping, then you'll apreciate all the junk that comes with a CD because in 30 years time, all those pictures and all the information is gonna mean something and give an insight to what was going on in music at that time.

Damn, i'd hate to just have a load of blank Cd's that make up my music collection.