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Hellenic Antidote


I switched on to watch Michael Martin resigning as Speaker of the House of Commons over the expenses scandal that has been gripping Britain, and unexpectedly stumbled across Foreign & Commonwealth Office Questions, the first part of which was devoted to Cyprus (see video above). Questions and answers reveal Britain's usual lies and hypocrisy, patronisingly asserting itself as a disinterested observer of the 'ancient conflict' in Cyprus and good-faith facilitator of reconciliation, when the truth is that Britain created the Cyprus problem and continues to shape it with its consistent backing for Turkey and its ambitions on the island, not least in coming up with the Annan plan.

A little background on Malcolm Rifkind, the Conservative MP and foreign secretary from 1995 to 1997, who asserts in his question to foreign secretary David Miliband that Cyprus should never have been allowed to join the EU, echoing the Turkish government's position: he is Jewish.

Another British Jewish politician hostile to Cyprus is Liberal Democrat MEP Baroness Sarah Ludford. She has been a consistent supporter of Turkey's occupation of Cyprus, frequently calling for the 'lifting of the isolation' of the Turkish Cypriots – which is code for recognition of the pseudo-state in occupied Cyprus.

Recently, Ludford spoke out against the Orams ruling: 'The technical legal correctness of this ruling may be unquestionable, based on EU measures providing for "mutual recognition" of judgments between two EU countries, in this case the Republic of Cyprus and the UK. It is also understandable that Mr Apostolides and other Greek Cypriot owners will feel that it represents justice. We must not forget however that there are many Turkish Cypriots who have been unable to reclaim property in the South [sic]. In any case it will strike many as strange that while EU law is suspended in north[ern] Cyprus due to the division of the island – so the judgment cannot be enforced there – the same EU law can be used for a backdoor enforcement of the claim in UK courts.

'The decision risks reinforcing the sense of bewilderment felt by Turkish Cypriots. They voted by 2 to 1 five years ago to accept the UN plan for reunification, a plan the Greek Cypriots rejected by 3 to 1, and they were then given an EU promise of an end to isolation. Little has been delivered to make that a reality…'

Ludford is a Member of the European Parliament, elections to which are on 4 June. She is first on the Liberal Democrat list for London and likely to get re-elected. Third on the Conservative party list in London for the European Parliament – and with a good chance of being elected – is Marina Yannakoudakis, a London-born Cypriot. Apparently, we're supposed to vote for her because she has a Cypriot background; but the truth is if she really had a Cypriot consciousness she would have nothing to do with the Conservative party, which is stuffed full of Turkophiles who have never forgiven Cyprus for humiliating the British empire in the 1950s.

Posted by john akritas at Tuesday, May 19, 2009.

http://hellenicantidote.blogspot.com/2009/05/cyprus-questions.html

[Oracle]

Fortunate find ....

Baroness Ludford is clearly a deep enemy of the Greek Cypriots ... but I didn't know she is Jewish.

I suspect that she has property in the occupied north, probably gifted to her as a further inducement. .... Cheap crapulent cow! (apologies to Bovine)

Is there some way she could be forced to reveal the assets she holds in this loaded region? Not that I expect any voluntarily offered honesty from her

[The Cypriot]

I'm sorry to say, you often find British politicians (and journalists too) - who express counter-intuitive views on Cyprus that go against human rights principles - are often of Jewish extraction. They are not enemies of Cyprus particularly, nor are they friends of Muslim Turkey, heaven forfend!

No, they are simply pro-Israel, even at the expense of British interests or obligations. They could more accurately be said to be enemies of Britain, for putting the perceived interests of a foreign state ahead of the people they are supposedly elected and paid to represent (plus expenses).

They realise that safeguarding people's rights in Cyprus sets a dangerous precedent for Israel/Palestine and a clean two-state solution along ethnic lines.

A case in point (though not related to Cyprus) is Barbara Roche, former Labour MP of Jewish extraction for Wood Green and Hornsey, who lost her seat in the UK at the last general election. A capable and decent MP with generally sound political principles, her allegiance to Israel was clear when she wholeheartedly backed the Iraq war against the wishes of the vast majority of her constituents. They, many UK Cypriots included, sniffed a rat and dumped her as a result.

[Jerry]

Milliband waffles, he used a lot of words and said nothing. The only sensible contributor to the debate said that the solution was in Ankara. Dismore lost an opportunity to expose Turkish colonisation of Cyprus. Whilst I agree that most Tories are anti GC, some, like Roger Gale, are very pro Greek Cypriot. I have a GC cousin whose wife stood as a parliamentary candidate for the Conservatives two elections ago, she did not get in, I don't know if she will stand in the next election. I saw Rifkind at Smith Square Tory HQ some years ago, what a bloody turncoat, they held a public meeting aimed at gaining GC support for a forthcoming election in the conference room and Rifkind appeared to be pro GC - Phucking politicians what a bunch of thieving two-faced bastards (well most of them).

[Oracle]

I noticed Caroline Flint positioning herself behind Miliband and expected some responses from her ... but maybe she was just there to look pretty!

Markos Kyprianou, Cypriot Foreign Minister

Foreign Secretary David Miliband and Minister for Europe Caroline Flint with Markos Kyprianou, Cypriot Foreign Minister speak to the media after meeting in London, 19 May 2009.
Source:Flickr

[Dr J]

Why do they keep mentioning Greece as being a major part of the influence in finding a soloution? Greece doesnt have the same influence (negative) as Turkey in this issue.

Its that same old annoying factor where someones mentions Turkey and the other has to mention Greece to balance things up.

[The Cypriot]

Why do they keep mentioning Greece as being a major part of the influence in finding a soloution? Greece doesnt have the same influence (negative) as Turkey in this issue.

Its that same old annoying factor where someones mentions Turkey and the other has to mention Greece to balance things up.

I presume you're referring to this:

David Miliband: My hon. Friend speaks with a lot of experience and expertise on this question. I think that the fairest thing to say is that it takes two to tango. It will need not only Turkish Cypriots and the Turkish Government, but Greek Cypriots and the Greek Government, to support this outcome. All our diplomatic efforts—my right hon. Friend the Minister for Europe has visited Cyprus twice, and I will be visiting Turkey and Greece at the end of this month—are dedicated to ensuring that there is genuine compromise, because that is the only way in which the problem will be resolved. No one wants a repeat of the 2004 referendum result in the south of the island; that is why we are working for a solution.

I pointed this out yesterday to some senior, politically-connected associates. I was told it's 'diplomatic speak'. Please take it from me, the British are well aware where the problems lie. They are also very receptive to the point that it was time to push further and to start stating a few home truths... You can expect a lot less of the 'speaking with fork tongue' going forward.

[Jerry]

I pointed this out yesterday to some senior, politically-connected associates. I was told it's 'diplomatic speak'. Please take it from me, the British are well aware where the problems lie. They are also very receptive to the point that it was time to push further and to start stating a few home truths... You can expect a lot less of the 'speaking with fork tongue' going forward.

Being well aware and doing something about it are two different things. Milliband could have mentioned colonisation or the return of Famagusta but his silence on those matters said it all. He is waiting for instructions from Washington - if they ever arrive.

[The Cypriot]

I pointed this out yesterday to some senior, politically-connected associates. I was told it's 'diplomatic speak'. Please take it from me, the British are well aware where the problems lie. They are also very receptive to the point that it was time to push further and to start stating a few home truths... You can expect a lot less of the 'speaking with fork tongue' going forward.

Being well aware and doing something about it are two different things. Milliband could have mentioned colonisation or the return of Famagusta but his silence on those matters said it all. He is waiting for instructions from Washington - if they ever arrive.

Have they been diverted through Israel again?

[Viewpoint]

All talk no action, did you hear the support when an MP anounced that it was a mistkae to accept the island into the EU divided.