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Postby New to Cyprus » Sat May 23, 2009 4:50 pm

miltiades wrote:
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Paphitis wrote:I believe that is the issue here. Many people just won't adapt to Cypriot road conditions and just complain. Heaven forbid if the same individuals drove in Greece, or Italy. They think that driving a car in Greece, Italy or Cyprus should be the same as the UK... :roll:


Yes, the country's Ministry of Transportation should endeavor to make the country a safer place to drive in.

You epitomize exactly what is wrong with driving in Cyprus, and why there are so many aggressive drivers with no regard for others on the roads - the "Stay the hell out of my way," in-your-face, screw-the-other-guy attitude that is prevalent in Cyprus.


I epitomise nothing but will adapt to the road conditions.

Our Ministry of Transport does make our roads as safe as possible, but it is still impossible to build motorways like the ones in England, because Cypriot cities are centuries old and have very narrow streets. You just can't knock down a whole city and start again.

Everything in Cyprus works perfectly, and the last thing we need are some foreigners telling us what to do.

I second that Moron !! You are a bloody foreigner how dare you tell Miltiades born and raised in Cyprus that he is a foreigner . I know you are 35 or so years old and spent about 60 days in all in Cyprus . You are an insolent and very rude young punk , how dare insult someone old enough to be your father . Learn some manners boy CHE MEN ANAKATONNESE MESTA RCHIDHIA TOUS ANTHROPUS.

Looks like Paphitis should be the one calling himself "New to Cyprus," as I've spent about a year and a half more here in Cyprus than he has!!!

What a jerk!
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Postby Milo » Sat May 23, 2009 10:12 pm

Paphitis thankyou for kind words and welcome on your earlier post, I would like to put a different scenario to you on the driving here, IF Cypriots were safe and courteous drivers, and the 'foreigners' coming here to live, or as tourists brought dangerous driving skills over to here causing death to the locals, there would and should be a huge backlash, and demands on the Police to counteract it.

Sod the driving in other countries, I would,nt drive in Rome especially, niether Athens. Try driving in SA for instance deaths there are so many on the roads they don,t record all of them especially J'Burg :roll: :roll: Worse driving I have ever seen there :shock: But Japan has much lower fatalities which is surprising, so we could go on comparing what does that do?

I don,t believe that you think there should,nt be ways to change the dangerous driving habits here, even in Italy they belt up their kids in the back :roll: By he way I,ve been driving here nearly three years.

Cyprus has to half its fatalities within a set time limit as does all the eu27, how do you propose they do it then?
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Postby Paphitis » Sun May 24, 2009 12:06 am

miltiades wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
miltiades wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
New to Cyprus wrote:
Paphitis wrote:I believe that is the issue here. Many people just won't adapt to Cypriot road conditions and just complain. Heaven forbid if the same individuals drove in Greece, or Italy. They think that driving a car in Greece, Italy or Cyprus should be the same as the UK... :roll:


Yes, the country's Ministry of Transportation should endeavor to make the country a safer place to drive in.

You epitomize exactly what is wrong with driving in Cyprus, and why there are so many aggressive drivers with no regard for others on the roads - the "Stay the hell out of my way," in-your-face, screw-the-other-guy attitude that is prevalent in Cyprus.


I epitomise nothing but will adapt to the road conditions.

Our Ministry of Transport does make our roads as safe as possible, but it is still impossible to build motorways like the ones in England, because Cypriot cities are centuries old and have very narrow streets. You just can't knock down a whole city and start again.

Everything in Cyprus works perfectly, and the last thing we need are some foreigners telling us what to do.

I second that Moron !! You are a bloody foreigner how dare you tell Miltiades born and raised in Cyprus that he is a foreigner . I know you are 35 or so years old and spent about 60 days in all in Cyprus . You are an insolent and very rude young punk , how dare insult someone old enough to be your father . Learn some manners boy CHE MEN ANAKATONNESE MESTA RCHIDHIA TOUS ANTHROPUS.


Miltiades, I have travelled the world a few times over during the last 14 years. Been to all continents and visited many countries both through work and leisure. Seen many things you will only see at the movies so piss off you stupid imbecile!

What a bloody shame your parents didn't teach you some old fashioned Cypriot manners like showing respect to your elders , still what can one expect from a guy who not long ago suggested that I , a grandfather and a respectable member of my community , should go and suck Turkish cock !!!
What a first class Plonker !
You should be proud that you have have had the opportunity to travel so extensively , a few times round the world you said , Oh boy !


You must learn to cop things fair and square on the chin.

It was you that was trying to get me banned back then, by trolling my posts, insulting me in the most vulgar manner in order to try and get me to react and then running off to Admin to try and convince him to ban me.

Problem is, you are so incompetent, you ended up getting yourself banned for 2 weeks instead due to you vulgar, arrogant, and disgusting behaviour....It was the funniest thing really... :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby Paphitis » Sun May 24, 2009 12:14 am

New to Cyprus wrote:
Paphitis wrote:I epitomise nothing but will adapt to the road conditions.

Which in your case, as you've made clear, means responding to irresponsible/dangerous/aggressive driving by driving irresponsible/dangerous/aggressive yourself. Yes, way to go. :roll:


Paphitis wrote:Everything in Cyprus works perfectly, and the last thing we need are some foreigners telling us what to do.


Ignoring Cyprus' accident rate, are we?


You still have not answered my question.

You seem to think you can come to Cyprus and expect changes and turn Cyprus into another U. S OF A.. :roll:

Why are Americans so stupid? :?

Get it through your thick head. When we Cypriopts want help for anything then we will ask for it. in the mean time, everything could not be better consideriong the road and traffic conditions in Cyprus.

The road toll in Cyprus is not that high when compared to let's say Australia. What does that tell you moron?
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Postby Paphitis » Sun May 24, 2009 12:30 am

Milo wrote:Paphitis thankyou for kind words and welcome on your earlier post, I would like to put a different scenario to you on the driving here, IF Cypriots were safe and courteous drivers, and the 'foreigners' coming here to live, or as tourists brought dangerous driving skills over to here causing death to the locals, there would and should be a huge backlash, and demands on the Police to counteract it.

Sod the driving in other countries, I would,nt drive in Rome especially, niether Athens. Try driving in SA for instance deaths there are so many on the roads they don,t record all of them especially J'Burg :roll: :roll: Worse driving I have ever seen there :shock: But Japan has much lower fatalities which is surprising, so we could go on comparing what does that do?

I don,t believe that you think there should,nt be ways to change the dangerous driving habits here, even in Italy they belt up their kids in the back :roll: By he way I,ve been driving here nearly three years.

Cyprus has to half its fatalities within a set time limit as does all the eu27, how do you propose they do it then?


You are very welcome Milo. :)

In Australia we also have a massive road toll and you can pretty much put that down to the standards of our roads in rural areas. Australia is about the same size as all EU countries combined, and yet our population is a mere 21,000,000. There are not enough tax payers in order to be able to build the types of roads you have in Britain or Germany for example. Therefore, many of our rural roads are not as good as what you will find in the EU and are less safe.

The same situation applies to Cyprus. The country has built some excellent highways, but the standard of the islands city roads are mostly narrow and very congested, just like they are in Rome and in Athens. This forces people to drive in a certain way.

For you I just advise that you enjoy Cyprus and everything it has to offer. Keep yourself safe on the roads by driving defensively. Always try to anticipate other people errors and drive accordingly. Expect the unexpected. If you do this then Cypriot roads are not dangerous at all.

Cypriots will not change. The EU could make smoking illegal, but Cypriots will still smoke. You just have to accept who we are, and when you do that you will fit in a whole lot more.

I have always felt very safe on Cypriot roads, but I'm also a confident driver and have faith in my driving ability.
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Postby Milo » Sun May 24, 2009 7:47 am

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Milo wrote:Paphitis thankyou for kind words and welcome on your earlier post, I would like to put a different scenario to you on the driving here, IF Cypriots were safe and courteous drivers, and the 'foreigners' coming here to live, or as tourists brought dangerous driving skills over to here causing death to the locals, there would and should be a huge backlash, and demands on the Police to counteract it.

Sod the driving in other countries, I would,nt drive in Rome especially, niether Athens. Try driving in SA for instance deaths there are so many on the roads they don,t record all of them especially J'Burg :roll: :roll: Worse driving I have ever seen there :shock: But Japan has much lower fatalities which is surprising, so we could go on comparing what does that do?

I don,t believe that you think there should,nt be ways to change the dangerous driving habits here, even in Italy they belt up their kids in the back :roll: By he way I,ve been driving here nearly three years.

Cyprus has to half its fatalities within a set time limit as does all the eu27, how do you propose they do it then?


You are very welcome Milo. :)

In Australia we also have a massive road toll and you can pretty much put that down to the standards of our roads in rural areas. Australia is about the same size as all EU countries combined, and yet our population is a mere 21,000,000. There are not enough tax payers in order to be able to build the types of roads you have in Britain or Germany for example. Therefore, many of our rural roads are not as good as what you will find in the EU and are less safe.

The same situation applies to Cyprus. The country has built some excellent highways, but the standard of the islands city roads are mostly narrow and very congested, just like they are in Rome and in Athens. This forces people to drive in a certain way.

For you I just advise that you enjoy Cyprus and everything it has to offer. Keep yourself safe on the roads by driving defensively. Always try to anticipate other people errors and drive accordingly. Expect the unexpected. If you do this then Cypriot roads are not dangerous at all.

Cypriots will not change. The EU could make smoking illegal, but Cypriots will still smoke. You just have to accept who we are, and when you do that you will fit in a whole lot more.

I have always felt very safe on Cypriot roads, but I'm also a confident driver and have faith in my driving ability.


I,m too a confident driver :wink: and have had to become much more aware of who/what is around me, so as a women I don,t become 'trapped' in my own piece of heaven here. Yes you are right it gets ME thru.

Many of us ex-pats and other eu citizens melt into the background of society here because that is how we want to be, some never will, they shout the loudest, but there are just a few aspects that as an ex UK driver you can see and it does scare you on the fragility of life here and how the authorities don,t 'protect' you by telling you what can go wrong.

One of the strongest drinkdriving campaigns in the UK on TV screens affected a lot of people,s 'normal' driving habits :roll: Then the speed kills ones are so graphic it does,nt leave you. My OH drives faster and now shall we say 'like a Cypriot' no pun intended, he has had his car in the garage a few times to deal with the corners being knocked off. I love the bones of him BUT when we go out together I drive as I consider myself safer.

I certainly would never put the UK or anywhere else up as a shining pinnacle against Cyprus, I agree Cyprus has its own uniqueness that should be kept, BUT to leave its people out in the cold regarding road safety especially for the young would be wrong and the EU has its duty to perform to its member states. Smoking will be a hard nut to crack here as again the authorities have NOT campaigned against it enough. But this is a civilised world campaign and the no smoking Police will get around to you one day.

I was in the next Village up to Lefkara yesterday forgive my ignorance but it started with a Vas... we stopped at Marias for some Tavas, goats tavas yum, a large group of motorcyclists pulled up outside on a routed ride thru the mountains, we chatted to them as they had some great machines, they were all youngish Cypriots, all suited and booted in leathers and expensive looking crash helmets 8) They looked the business but one told me they were actually ridiculed for wearing the proper equipment, as a Mum of two boys I told him to carry on doing what he was doing, he looked much better in his gear than the numpty in a vest and no helmet tearing down the roads you normaly see here and his Mum will get to keep him.

Love to come to Oz by the way, don,t know if we will :( Its on the wish list to visit. Am surprised that the aussies have such high death rates, I think in many countries it has plenty to do with the increasing car ownership rates, which then brings congestion which then gets you impatient etc etc.

I can,t agree with your ideals for Cyprus paphitis re its drivers, but I,ll leave it there, I hope that things will slowly change, I as a human being worry at what I witness, but no-one listens and your right I just want to enjoy Cyprus while we live here cause its just wonderful :D When you see me in future posting any negatives which I,m sure I will give us a nudge.
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Postby miltiades » Sun May 24, 2009 8:47 am

Paphitis wrote:
miltiades wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
miltiades wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
New to Cyprus wrote:
Paphitis wrote:I believe that is the issue here. Many people just won't adapt to Cypriot road conditions and just complain. Heaven forbid if the same individuals drove in Greece, or Italy. They think that driving a car in Greece, Italy or Cyprus should be the same as the UK... :roll:


Yes, the country's Ministry of Transportation should endeavor to make the country a safer place to drive in.

You epitomize exactly what is wrong with driving in Cyprus, and why there are so many aggressive drivers with no regard for others on the roads - the "Stay the hell out of my way," in-your-face, screw-the-other-guy attitude that is prevalent in Cyprus.


I epitomise nothing but will adapt to the road conditions.

Our Ministry of Transport does make our roads as safe as possible, but it is still impossible to build motorways like the ones in England, because Cypriot cities are centuries old and have very narrow streets. You just can't knock down a whole city and start again.

Everything in Cyprus works perfectly, and the last thing we need are some foreigners telling us what to do.

I second that Moron !! You are a bloody foreigner how dare you tell Miltiades born and raised in Cyprus that he is a foreigner . I know you are 35 or so years old and spent about 60 days in all in Cyprus . You are an insolent and very rude young punk , how dare insult someone old enough to be your father . Learn some manners boy CHE MEN ANAKATONNESE MESTA RCHIDHIA TOUS ANTHROPUS.


Miltiades, I have travelled the world a few times over during the last 14 years. Been to all continents and visited many countries both through work and leisure. Seen many things you will only see at the movies so piss off you stupid imbecile!

What a bloody shame your parents didn't teach you some old fashioned Cypriot manners like showing respect to your elders , still what can one expect from a guy who not long ago suggested that I , a grandfather and a respectable member of my community , should go and suck Turkish cock !!!
What a first class Plonker !
You should be proud that you have have had the opportunity to travel so extensively , a few times round the world you said , Oh boy !


You must learn to cop things fair and square on the chin.

It was you that was trying to get me banned back then, by trolling my posts, insulting me in the most vulgar manner in order to try and get me to react and then running off to Admin to try and convince him to ban me.

Problem is, you are so incompetent, you ended up getting yourself banned for 2 weeks instead due to you vulgar, arrogant, and disgusting behaviour....It was the funniest thing really... :lol: :lol: :lol:

As you can see Plonker everyone on this thread thinks you are wrong and rather stupid and why should anyone think otherwise .You come up with the most bizarre theories such as the one that when in Cyprus drive as the Cypriots do. From day one that you appeared on this forum you have made an ass of yourself. While I on the other hand have the respect of moderates you have the support of the extremists. Your views on every aspect that you got involved are atrocious . The T/Cs cant stand you , most G/Cs dislike your views , we know that the guy who says " A good Turk is a dead Turk " is an admirer of yours , so is the diplomatically incomptetent and irresponsible individual that causes more harm to our cause than many others , and you know who !!

In essence you are a very immature individual I think you have a chip on your shoulder you exhibit all signs of a lonely child and one who has many insecurities in life.

Enjoy your 6th trip to Cyprus ...in 35 years !! Oh boy what an expert in Cypriot way of life and especially driving .
Talking about driving , the road conditions in Cyprus over the last twenty years have improved tenfold , accidents now are just as high as they were before the highways because although the roads have improved tremendously alas the Cypriot driver has not .
ps. Back a few months we debated the options avaialble to Cyprus in orderd to get rid of the T/Troops. You supported WAR !!!
I supported political battle such as the one recently won at the EU !!
As you can see my views are sensible and balanced , yours childish and rather , heres a new one , PLONKERISH ! :lol:
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Postby DANGAMAN » Sun May 24, 2009 9:02 am

Paphitis wrote:
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Paphitis wrote:
miltiades wrote:Some advice from the British Foreign office when visiting Cyprus !!
""Road Travel

Short-term visitors and tourists are permitted to drive on UK driving licences. Cypriot driving regulations are similar to those of the UK and driving is on the left-hand side of the road. However, driving standards are poor. In 2007 there were 89 road deaths in Cyprus (source: DfT). This equates to 11.4 road deaths per 100,000 of population and compares to the UK average of 5.0 road deaths per 100,000 of population in 2007.""

More than double the number of fatalities from the UK , and Paphitis who has been in Cyprus 5 TIMES !!!
says there is nothing wrong with Cypriot driving.
Do know what mate , you are much more immature than I took you for , you have some strange views just look at this :"""Many people just won't adapt to Cypriot road conditions and just complain ""
So the next time I drive in Cyprus I shall drive along the seafront at 80 miles an hour , go through a few red lights , have my year old grandson on my lap , teaching him to drive , my 5 year grandaughter at the front seat right next to me , unbelted , while I'm talking to my daughter on my mobile telling her how good the kids are !!
Plonker !!


Oh dear. Sometimes I do wonder as to the inner workings of your brain. You have difficulties in comprehending even basic English and here I am just nodding my head and trying to reconcile your minuscule brain capacity or IQ on your excessive drinking habit.... :roll:

I geuss today, you must be well and truly on your second bottle, so I say cheers to you but advise you to not post anymore whilst under the influence, because I can't bear to see an old man make a fool of himself. But if you choose to disregard my sound advice, then I shall also advise you to not drive in your present state of mind because I just don't want to hear that you have hurt yourself. :D

The statistics above indicate absolutely nothing. They certainly do not prove that Cypriot drivers are less safe than UK drivers because these statistics DO NOT take into consideration traffic and road conditions of the island, which no doubt cause many fatal accidents. The UK in comparison has a superior road network when compared to Cyprus and is therefore expected to have less fatalities..... :roll:

As per usual and in true form load of rubbish. POU DEN MPORI NA DERI TO GARO DERNI TO SAMA.
Plonker , accidents are high in Cyprus not because of bad road conditions , snow or ice forming , torrential rains , fog with poor visibility but solely because the Cypriot driver is one of the worst in Europe. Carefree attitude when driving , distracted continually by the use of mobile phones , some even read the newspaper while driving. Get it into your head , our young drivers are badly influenced by their parents , they in turn drive with the same carefree attitude as their parents do.
A car , more so among young males , is a state symbol , the more noise they make , the loudest screeching of brakes and the highest the speed determines the size of their dick .Stupid , undisciplined young morons.


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BULLSHIT!

There are more accidents in Cyprus due to the road and traffic conditions and nothing more.

I dare you to prove otherwise.

FACT: 95% of all road traffic collisions are due to human error.
FACT: The remaining 5% is due to road and or weather conditions.

You can check this with CYPOL traffic statistics through CYPOL HQ Tel 22808080

FACTS!!! I don't bullshit
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Postby New to Cyprus » Sun May 24, 2009 9:30 am

Paphitis wrote:
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Paphitis wrote:I epitomise nothing but will adapt to the road conditions.

Which in your case, as you've made clear, means responding to irresponsible/dangerous/aggressive driving by driving irresponsible/dangerous/aggressive yourself. Yes, way to go. :roll:


Paphitis wrote:Everything in Cyprus works perfectly, and the last thing we need are some foreigners telling us what to do.


Ignoring Cyprus' accident rate, are we?


You still have not answered my question.

You seem to think you can come to Cyprus and expect changes and turn Cyprus into another U. S OF A.. :roll:

Why are Americans so stupid? :?

Get it through your thick head. When we Cypriopts want help for anything then we will ask for it. in the mean time, everything could not be better consideriong the road and traffic conditions in Cyprus.

The road toll in Cyprus is not that high when compared to let's say Australia. What does that tell you moron?

I didn't answer your question because it was (a) rhetorical and pointless; and (b) you were clearly trying to change the subject.

Nope, not trying to turn Cyprus into the US. Never said anything to the effect. But yes, you've made it clear that you're damn proud that Cypriots can't drive worth sh*t, even though you're more of a visitor here than I am.

We're not talking about Australia either. Why are you trying to avoid responsibility for your horrid attitude towards driving (driving aggressively/dangerously is better?? And you're calling me a moron???
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Postby Paphitis » Sun May 24, 2009 9:30 am

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As you can see Plonker everyone on this thread thinks you are wrong and rather stupid and why should anyone think otherwise .You come up with the most bizarre theories such as the one that when in Cyprus drive as the Cypriots do. From day one that you appeared on this forum you have made an ass of yourself. While I on the other hand have the respect of moderates you have the support of the extremists.


:lol: :lol: :lol:

The only people that support Milti are a few TCs such as Y-Fred, Insan et al and Milti and his 15 accounts.... :lol:

Miltiades wrote:
The T/Cs cant stand you


Of course they don't and most of them are partitionists and that is the reason.... :roll:

Miltiades wrote:
most G/Cs dislike your views


No they don't! They absolutely love me... :D

Miltiades wrote:
we know that the guy who says " A good Turk is a dead Turk " is an admirer of yours


That would not surprise me. Lots of people admire me... :D

Miltiades wrote:
so is the diplomatically incomptetent and irresponsible individual that causes more harm to our cause than many others , and you know who !!


Erm Miltiades obviously. His Turkish fellatio antics do Cyprus absolutely no good... :lol:

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In essence you are a very immature individual I think you have a chip on your shoulder you exhibit all signs of a lonely child and one who has many insecurities in life.


My wife say's I'm immature, but I make her laugh a lot.... :D

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Enjoy your 6th trip to Cyprus ...in 35 years !! Oh boy what an expert in Cypriot way of life and especially driving .


6 trips in 12 years, and I usually travel for 6-8 weeks at a time and I don't spend all my time in Cyprus.

Life is way too short and I make it a point to visit as many places as I can. Cyprus and Greece are obligatory, however I am going to squeeze in Egypt. It is really great being allowed to travel Business Class on ID 95. :D

Miltiades wrote:
Talking about driving , the road conditions in Cyprus over the last twenty years have improved tenfold , accidents now are just as high as they were before the highways because although the roads have improved tremendously alas the Cypriot driver has not .


BULLSHIT about the Cypriot driver.

Cypriot drivers are amongst the best in the world.... 8)

If you say they are not, then prove it!

Miltiades wrote:
ps. Back a few months we debated the options avaialble to Cyprus in orderd to get rid of the T/Troops. You supported WAR !!!


That is a blatant lie... :lol:

I never advocated WAR, just highlighted the nation's sovereign rights... 8)

I think the time will come when the US, Australia and UK are going to pulverise Turkey anyway. They are a terrorist nation... :wink:

Miltiades wrote:
I supported political battle such as the one recently won at the EU !!


You support Turkish fellatio and have got very good at it.... :lol:

Miltiades wrote:
As you can see my views are sensible and balanced


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Oh my gut hurts.

Miltiades wrote:
heres a new one , PLONKERISH !


Eat my boxer shorts old man! :lol:
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