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Anyone know of a way then let me know!

[Kikapu]

There are natural sexual tendancies and then their are perverts like you who can twist and convert a debate about property into people fucking each other...this is pervision and you need to get help to find out the difference.

Is that what your psychologist told you, that you are perverted individual for using the "cunt" word a lot during your discussions on the forum. By far, you are the only forum member who has used the "C" word around here more than anyone else. I have yet to use the “C” once in the last 3 years and you call me perverted.!

Tells us more what your psychologist has said to you on the subject of perversity in all wrong doings as being acceptable to you.!

As to your question about do the Orams having land in the south in their name, no they do not but they have an agreement with a TC that gives them certain rights and if the TCs wants to play ball which the TRNC will make him do, the TC who has property in the south in his name can claim therefore indirectly benefiting the Orams, why do you refuse to see the link?

You will need to tell us what rights the Orams have, other than going after the TC who sold them property that did not belong to him, as well as the "trnc" for being complicit in that sale. Good luck the Orams getting anything from the above two.

But if we were to follow your logic, what you are then saying is, that the TC and the "trnc" will be in complicit together to create a "double dipping". First the TC sold a GC land in the north and made money, and with the assistance of the "trnc", he then get his deeds back for his land in the south from the “trnc”, so that he can sell that also and make even more money......Good Luck.!

Your attempt to cloud the issue by introducing inheirted land bears no real impact on this case as we take it that the deeds are in the name of the TC concerned, can the "RoC" deny him is right over his land in the south when they have taken a decision backed by the EU to grant everyone rights to their land all over Cyprus? Is an agreement in the TRNC between 2 individuals and finalized in the TRNC land registry office recognized by the "RoC"? Can you take someone to court for something you do not recognize or in your eyes didnt take place?

Isn't it true, that most of the TC land in the south belongs to our grandparents and parents and not to those of our age group or younger directly, which means that many of these legal owners are either dead or are very old who has not transferred their land titles into their children’s names in the last 35 years, because to do that, they would have had to go to south to take care of business, which many have not done so, because they have been given GC land instead in the north and would be afraid if the "trnc" found out that they were trying to "double dip", because even if the legal TC owners were dead, their children were given equal distribution of GC land in the north against the total land owned by their parents or grandparent in the south. So in effect, many TC's in the north are sitting on GC land that was given against divided (parcelled) TC deeds amongst the children of the original TC owner. If one of the children who has received GC land in the north and then sells it, like to the Orams, that TC may not have land in the south in his name, but in his parents or grandparents name, so in effect, he has no land in the south, at least not until all the children go through probate to sort it out, before most individuals can get part of their share into their names. But they could not do this, because of the "trnc" and the rules set by the RoC.!

[74LB]

Kikapu wrote :

Isn't it true, that most of the TC land in the south belongs to our grandparents and parents and not to those of our age group or younger directly, which means that many of these legal owners are either dead or are very old who has not transferred their land titles into their children’s names in the last 35 years, because to do that, they would have had to go to south to take care of business, which many have not done so, because they have been given GC land instead in the north and would be afraid if the "trnc" found out that they were trying to "double dip", because even if the legal TC owners were dead, their children were given equal distribution of GC land in the north against the total land owned by their parents or grandparent in the south. So in effect, many TC's in the north are sitting on GC land that was given against divided (parcelled) TC deeds amongst the children of the original TC owner. If one of the children who has received GC land in the north and then sells it, like to the Orams, that TC may not have land in the south in his name, but in his parents or grandparents name, so in effect, he has no land in the south, at least not until all the children go through probate to sort it out, before most individuals can get part of their share into their names. But they could not do this, because of the "trnc" and the rules set by the RoC.!

This whole land issue is a mess especially for those children/grandchildren who in reality don't have much idea of what land was left in the south and who have no dealings with the land given as exchange in the north.

My father-in-law and his brothers have/had extensive land in Istinjo and were given exchange land in Balikesir/Palekythro. All of the kids are abroad, most in the UK, some in Australia. None have any intention whatsoever of settling in Cyprus. So what will hapeen to this land. Will it just go the the state over time ?

[YFred]

Kikapu wrote :

Isn't it true, that most of the TC land in the south belongs to our grandparents and parents and not to those of our age group or younger directly, which means that many of these legal owners are either dead or are very old who has not transferred their land titles into their children’s names in the last 35 years, because to do that, they would have had to go to south to take care of business, which many have not done so, because they have been given GC land instead in the north and would be afraid if the "trnc" found out that they were trying to "double dip", because even if the legal TC owners were dead, their children were given equal distribution of GC land in the north against the total land owned by their parents or grandparent in the south. So in effect, many TC's in the north are sitting on GC land that was given against divided (parcelled) TC deeds amongst the children of the original TC owner. If one of the children who has received GC land in the north and then sells it, like to the Orams, that TC may not have land in the south in his name, but in his parents or grandparents name, so in effect, he has no land in the south, at least not until all the children go through probate to sort it out, before most individuals can get part of their share into their names. But they could not do this, because of the "trnc" and the rules set by the RoC.!

This whole land issue is a mess especially for those children/grandchildren who in reality don't have much idea of what land was left in the south and who have no dealings with the land given as exchange in the north.

My father-in-law and his brothers have/had extensive land in Istinjo and were given exchange land in Balikesir/Palekythro. All of the kids are abroad, most in the UK, some in Australia. None have any intention whatsoever of settling in Cyprus. So what will hapeen to this land. Will it just go the the state over time ?

Your in-laws must have handed in the deeds to the properties in the south to be given GC land in the north, so you have no claim other than the land given to them in the north until the agreement and then it will be all sorted out. Although in reality Eroglu and his gang complicated the issue by allowing the rich to buy eshdeger points to be able to claim land under certain circumstances.

[bill cobbett]

Kikapu wrote :

Isn't it true, that most of the TC land in the south belongs to our grandparents and parents and not to those of our age group or younger directly, which means that many of these legal owners are either dead or are very old who has not transferred their land titles into their children’s names in the last 35 years, because to do that, they would have had to go to south to take care of business, which many have not done so, because they have been given GC land instead in the north and would be afraid if the "trnc" found out that they were trying to "double dip", because even if the legal TC owners were dead, their children were given equal distribution of GC land in the north against the total land owned by their parents or grandparent in the south. So in effect, many TC's in the north are sitting on GC land that was given against divided (parcelled) TC deeds amongst the children of the original TC owner. If one of the children who has received GC land in the north and then sells it, like to the Orams, that TC may not have land in the south in his name, but in his parents or grandparents name, so in effect, he has no land in the south, at least not until all the children go through probate to sort it out, before most individuals can get part of their share into their names. But they could not do this, because of the "trnc" and the rules set by the RoC.!

This whole land issue is a mess especially for those children/grandchildren who in reality don't have much idea of what land was left in the south and who have no dealings with the land given as exchange in the north.

My father-in-law and his brothers have/had extensive land in Istinjo and were given exchange land in Balikesir/Palekythro. All of the kids are abroad, most in the UK, some in Australia. None have any intention whatsoever of settling in Cyprus. So what will hapeen to this land. Will it just go the the state over time ?

Your in-laws must have handed in the deeds to the properties in the south to be given GC land in the north, so you have no claim other than the land given to them in the north until the agreement and then it will be all sorted out. Although in reality Eroglu and his gang complicated the issue by allowing the rich to buy eshdeger points to be able to claim land under certain circumstances.

We should also bear in mind that the "leadership" of the tnct also awarded themselves some pretty large tracts of land. I hear, for instance, that Rough Donktosh seems to have acquired several hundreds donums in the Occupied Areas.

[YFred]

Kikapu wrote :

Isn't it true, that most of the TC land in the south belongs to our grandparents and parents and not to those of our age group or younger directly, which means that many of these legal owners are either dead or are very old who has not transferred their land titles into their children’s names in the last 35 years, because to do that, they would have had to go to south to take care of business, which many have not done so, because they have been given GC land instead in the north and would be afraid if the "trnc" found out that they were trying to "double dip", because even if the legal TC owners were dead, their children were given equal distribution of GC land in the north against the total land owned by their parents or grandparent in the south. So in effect, many TC's in the north are sitting on GC land that was given against divided (parcelled) TC deeds amongst the children of the original TC owner. If one of the children who has received GC land in the north and then sells it, like to the Orams, that TC may not have land in the south in his name, but in his parents or grandparents name, so in effect, he has no land in the south, at least not until all the children go through probate to sort it out, before most individuals can get part of their share into their names. But they could not do this, because of the "trnc" and the rules set by the RoC.!

This whole land issue is a mess especially for those children/grandchildren who in reality don't have much idea of what land was left in the south and who have no dealings with the land given as exchange in the north.

My father-in-law and his brothers have/had extensive land in Istinjo and were given exchange land in Balikesir/Palekythro. All of the kids are abroad, most in the UK, some in Australia. None have any intention whatsoever of settling in Cyprus. So what will hapeen to this land. Will it just go the the state over time ?

Your in-laws must have handed in the deeds to the properties in the south to be given GC land in the north, so you have no claim other than the land given to them in the north until the agreement and then it will be all sorted out. Although in reality Eroglu and his gang complicated the issue by allowing the rich to buy eshdeger points to be able to claim land under certain circumstances.

We should also bear in mind that the "leadership" of the tnct also awarded themselves some pretty large tracts of land. I hear, for instance, that Rough Donktosh seems to have acquired several hundreds donums in the Occupied Areas.

Yes they were all members of the same gang at the time. It will all come out in the final wash as it were. We'll make sure we use persil automatic that should remove them.

[RichardB]

Kikapu wrote :

Isn't it true, that most of the TC land in the south belongs to our grandparents and parents and not to those of our age group or younger directly, which means that many of these legal owners are either dead or are very old who has not transferred their land titles into their children’s names in the last 35 years, because to do that, they would have had to go to south to take care of business, which many have not done so, because they have been given GC land instead in the north and would be afraid if the "trnc" found out that they were trying to "double dip", because even if the legal TC owners were dead, their children were given equal distribution of GC land in the north against the total land owned by their parents or grandparent in the south. So in effect, many TC's in the north are sitting on GC land that was given against divided (parcelled) TC deeds amongst the children of the original TC owner. If one of the children who has received GC land in the north and then sells it, like to the Orams, that TC may not have land in the south in his name, but in his parents or grandparents name, so in effect, he has no land in the south, at least not until all the children go through probate to sort it out, before most individuals can get part of their share into their names. But they could not do this, because of the "trnc" and the rules set by the RoC.!

This whole land issue is a mess especially for those children/grandchildren who in reality don't have much idea of what land was left in the south and who have no dealings with the land given as exchange in the north.

My father-in-law and his brothers have/had extensive land in Istinjo and were given exchange land in Balikesir/Palekythro. All of the kids are abroad, most in the UK, some in Australia. None have any intention whatsoever of settling in Cyprus. So what will hapeen to this land. Will it just go the the state over time ?

Your in-laws must have handed in the deeds to the properties in the south to be given GC land in the north, so you have no claim other than the land given to them in the north until the agreement and then it will be all sorted out. Although in reality Eroglu and his gang complicated the issue by allowing the rich to buy eshdeger points to be able to claim land under certain circumstances.

We should also bear in mind that the "leadership" of the tnct also awarded themselves some pretty large tracts of land. I hear, for instance, that Rough Donktosh seems to have acquired several hundreds donums in the Occupied Areas.

Yes they were all members of the same gang at the time. It will all come out in the final wash as it were. We'll make sure we use persil automatic that should remove them.

Maybe an uzi 9mm semi automatic would be more appropriate

[Viewpoint]

Kikapu

Is that what your psychologist told you, that you are perverted individual for using the "cunt" word a lot during your discussions on the forum. By far, you are the only forum member who has used the "C" word around here more than anyone else. I have yet to use the “C” once in the last 3 years and you call me perverted.!

Tells us more what your psychologist has said to you on the subject of perversity in all wrong doings as being acceptable to you.!

The C word was used in a moment of anger but your sexual conatations and ineundos just come out of the blue and with no real bearing on the matter being discussed, this is a clear symptom of sexual frustration and inadequency as the only place you can vent you sexual deficiencies is by introducing sexual content in what you say and write, you need help as yours is a perverted tendency and will get worse with age, seek help before its to late.

You will need to tell us what rights the Orams have, other than going after the TC who sold them property that did not belong to him, as well as the "trnc" for being complicit in that sale. Good luck the Orams getting anything from the above two.

But if we were to follow your logic, what you are then saying is, that the TC and the "trnc" will be in complicit together to create a "double dipping". First the TC sold a GC land in the north and made money, and with the assistance of the "trnc", he then get his deeds back for his land in the south from the “trnc”, so that he can sell that also and make even more money......Good Luck.!

No double dipping as the GC gets his piece of land villa free and the TC has already got his money from the Orams who get the proceeds of the sale of the land in the south. All the TRNC has to do is get the TC to make a claim for his land in the south, if the GC authorities do not accept his appliccation then he can take his case to the ECHR. Or if the prosecute him for selling land that does not belong to him then they have to prove this by recognizing that such a transaction actually took place in the TRNC and thereofre the land registry documents will be used.

Isn't it true, that most of the TC land in the south belongs to our grandparents and parents and not to those of our age group or younger directly, which means that many of these legal owners are either dead or are very old who has not transferred their land titles into their children’s names in the last 35 years, because to do that, they would have had to go to south to take care of business, which many have not done so, because they have been given GC land instead in the north and would be afraid if the "trnc" found out that they were trying to "double dip", because even if the legal TC owners were dead, their children were given equal distribution of GC land in the north against the total land owned by their parents or grandparent in the south. So in effect, many TC's in the north are sitting on GC land that was given against divided (parcelled) TC deeds amongst the children of the original TC owner. If one of the children who has received GC land in the north and then sells it, like to the Orams, that TC may not have land in the south in his name, but in his parents or grandparents name, so in effect, he has no land in the south, at least not until all the children go through probate to sort it out, before most individuals can get part of their share into their names. But they could not do this, because of the "trnc" and the rules set by the RoC.!

Irelevent to this case, you are just trying to create a smoke screen to cloud up the fact the TC can get his land back in the south as the GC courts now have to abide by the ECJ ruling, sell it and give the proceeds to the Orams.

[YFred]

Kikapu wrote :

Isn't it true, that most of the TC land in the south belongs to our grandparents and parents and not to those of our age group or younger directly, which means that many of these legal owners are either dead or are very old who has not transferred their land titles into their children’s names in the last 35 years, because to do that, they would have had to go to south to take care of business, which many have not done so, because they have been given GC land instead in the north and would be afraid if the "trnc" found out that they were trying to "double dip", because even if the legal TC owners were dead, their children were given equal distribution of GC land in the north against the total land owned by their parents or grandparent in the south. So in effect, many TC's in the north are sitting on GC land that was given against divided (parcelled) TC deeds amongst the children of the original TC owner. If one of the children who has received GC land in the north and then sells it, like to the Orams, that TC may not have land in the south in his name, but in his parents or grandparents name, so in effect, he has no land in the south, at least not until all the children go through probate to sort it out, before most individuals can get part of their share into their names. But they could not do this, because of the "trnc" and the rules set by the RoC.!

This whole land issue is a mess especially for those children/grandchildren who in reality don't have much idea of what land was left in the south and who have no dealings with the land given as exchange in the north.

My father-in-law and his brothers have/had extensive land in Istinjo and were given exchange land in Balikesir/Palekythro. All of the kids are abroad, most in the UK, some in Australia. None have any intention whatsoever of settling in Cyprus. So what will hapeen to this land. Will it just go the the state over time ?

Your in-laws must have handed in the deeds to the properties in the south to be given GC land in the north, so you have no claim other than the land given to them in the north until the agreement and then it will be all sorted out. Although in reality Eroglu and his gang complicated the issue by allowing the rich to buy eshdeger points to be able to claim land under certain circumstances.

We should also bear in mind that the "leadership" of the tnct also awarded themselves some pretty large tracts of land. I hear, for instance, that Rough Donktosh seems to have acquired several hundreds donums in the Occupied Areas.

By "occupied" areas do you mean in the north I thought it was called TRNC.

[bill cobbett]

Kikapu wrote :

Isn't it true, that most of the TC land in the south belongs to our grandparents and parents and not to those of our age group or younger directly, which means that many of these legal owners are either dead or are very old who has not transferred their land titles into their children’s names in the last 35 years, because to do that, they would have had to go to south to take care of business, which many have not done so, because they have been given GC land instead in the north and would be afraid if the "trnc" found out that they were trying to "double dip", because even if the legal TC owners were dead, their children were given equal distribution of GC land in the north against the total land owned by their parents or grandparent in the south. So in effect, many TC's in the north are sitting on GC land that was given against divided (parcelled) TC deeds amongst the children of the original TC owner. If one of the children who has received GC land in the north and then sells it, like to the Orams, that TC may not have land in the south in his name, but in his parents or grandparents name, so in effect, he has no land in the south, at least not until all the children go through probate to sort it out, before most individuals can get part of their share into their names. But they could not do this, because of the "trnc" and the rules set by the RoC.!

This whole land issue is a mess especially for those children/grandchildren who in reality don't have much idea of what land was left in the south and who have no dealings with the land given as exchange in the north.

My father-in-law and his brothers have/had extensive land in Istinjo and were given exchange land in Balikesir/Palekythro. All of the kids are abroad, most in the UK, some in Australia. None have any intention whatsoever of settling in Cyprus. So what will hapeen to this land. Will it just go the the state over time ?

Your in-laws must have handed in the deeds to the properties in the south to be given GC land in the north, so you have no claim other than the land given to them in the north until the agreement and then it will be all sorted out. Although in reality Eroglu and his gang complicated the issue by allowing the rich to buy eshdeger points to be able to claim land under certain circumstances.

We should also bear in mind that the "leadership" of the tnct also awarded themselves some pretty large tracts of land. I hear, for instance, that Rough Donktosh seems to have acquired several hundreds donums in the Occupied Areas.

By "occupied" areas do you mean in the north I thought it was called TRNC.

Generally and more accurately known as tnuc-land or tnuc-istan.