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[Jerry]

No wonder the Orams and others got stitched up by the "trnc entrepreneurs", look what you can buy for £80k, how much would this cost in the ROC, three times as much?

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[Kikapu]

Whats changed?

I'm sure your underwear, couple of times tonight.!

Yes I did shower the weather is getting hotter and hotter in the TRNC, summer is truely here....we just witnessed fireworks display at the opening of the state fair....

Get used to it, because it is likely to get even hotter as the heat is turned up by the courts. You may end up being only in your undies all day long.!

Cant wait love the heat.

That's good.! We may end up calling you the "Great Balls of Fire".! :lol:

[Kifeas]

Isnt this the worse case scenario? the villa gets demolished and returned to the GC for use as a plot of land in the TRNC and the Orams now sue the "RoC" for the land in the south which maybe very valuable?

Can you for once and for all explain yourself with this idea that the Orams have a right to any land in the south that belongs to a TC as an exchange to a land they bought in the north which was stolen and has a legal owner. Which exact plot of land in the south will they be entitled to, so tell us, or are you once again making worthless propaganda to give some comfort to the morally corrupted who did buy stolen GC land in the north. I don't get it and the more you repeat your statement, the more confused I get. Lets hear your explanation, shall we.!

Well, there is an even better question. What if Apostolide's land in Lapithos was given to the one that "sold" it to Orams, not in "exchange" of his land in the south, but because he was one of the thousands who got it in exchange of their "services" to the "national cause," i.e. TMT Mujahedins and Talibans, Turkish military officers, political friends and allies of Denktash (Turks and foreigners -British,) etc? What land will the Orams be entitled in the south, in such a case?

[growuptcs]

They can now go claim land in the south which maybe more valuable than the building itself which if the case they can then knock down the villa while Mr Apolosilities looks on.....and sees his flat piece of land just as it was in 1974. The Orams maybe quids in if the land in the south is valuable.

Your narrating skills have to be appreciated by any kind of pop-up book publisher. You should really look into that kind of career and see what they have to offer you. A creative mind is a terrible thing to waste VP.

Isnt this the worse case scenario? the villa gets demolished and returned to the GC for use as a plot of land in the TRNC and the Orams now sue the "RoC" for the land in the south which maybe very valuable?

Or maybe the Orams have to sue Turkey in the end for pointing out the RoC to pay for everything. Considering that Turkey is almost bankrupt with no IMF loan coming, I'm sure the Orams will accept motherland Turkish property instead of nothing at all.

[Kifeas]

No wonder the Orams and others got stitched up by the "trnc entrepreneurs", look what you can buy for £80k, how much would this cost in the ROC, three times as much?

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Between € 350 and € 400 thousands in an average area, which make it at least 4 times more.

With that money (£80K,) you hardly buy a one-bedroom, 60 sq.m. apartment in the south.

[Jerry]

Isnt this the worse case scenario? the villa gets demolished and returned to the GC for use as a plot of land in the TRNC and the Orams now sue the "RoC" for the land in the south which maybe very valuable?

Can you for once and for all explain yourself with this idea that the Orams have a right to any land in the south that belongs to a TC as an exchange to a land they bought in the north which was stolen and has a legal owner. Which exact plot of land in the south will they be entitled to, so tell us, or are you once again making worthless propaganda to give some comfort to the morally corrupted who did buy stolen GC land in the north. I don't get it and the more you repeat your statement, the more confused I get. Lets hear your explanation, shall we.!

Well, there is an even better question. What if Apostolide's land in Lapithos was given to the one that "sold" it to Orams, not in "exchange" of his land in the south, but because he was one of the thousands who got it in exchange of their "services" to the "national cause," i.e. TMT Mujahedins and Talibans, Turkish military officers, political friends and allies of Denktash (Turks and foreigners -British,) etc? What land will the Orams be entitled in the south, in such a case?

Not in the south but in Afghanistan!

[zan]

Thank you Tonight program......Your biased of the Cyprob will serve to unite the TC people even more......I will spend any spare time I have showing the TC people what sort of prejudice and propaganda we have to face. Although in 1974 the first to invade the island was Greek and not the Turks, nothing was said about that......I have access to top TC lawyers now as well....Legal action will be considered. Bloody corrupt crooks making programs.....

Zan, it sounds like the programme struck a nerve. I can't speak for others but I'm sure most would agree that the acquisition and illegal sale of anyone's land on the island should be condemned especially when it is done for political motives. You know very well that what the "trnc" has done is not legal, there is no such thing as exchange land.

The programme was about the stupid Brits who bought something they had no right to, it was not directly about the Cyprob and the complex history of Cyprus.

If you feel so strongly about the matter I suggest you ask your "Top TC lawyers" to persuade ITV to broadcast an honest programme about all the Turkish Cypriot land that the ROC has sold off cheap to Brits and others, good luck!

It did strike a nerve mate. You heard it right! What we are trying to do is survive under great POLITICAL pressure from the "RoC". Candudus (or what ever the govoloz his name is)made one big mistake, in his discussion with Bayramoglu, when he lost his temper with the host of the program and asked if he wanted to play the blame game, "I am much better at it than you" he exclaimed. Previous to this outburst he was saying that his was not a political involvement. He clearly has put all the blame on the TCs and that is what this case is all about So those, like The Cypriot, who say this is not political should think again. There are talks going on....Do they want us to listen or are they thinking they can force our hand....Bloody fools if they do. Candudus said that nothing will really change but blamed the Orams for their foolishness because if they didn't know the situation then they should have. Well Mr. Candudus......If you didn't know that your actions in the law courts would result in forcing the TC hand politically...then you should have known that it surely would....Pleading ignorance and condemning it at the same time did not go unnoticed.

If this program was not about the history of Cyprus then why mention the so called Turkish "Invasion"??

[paliometoxo]

link was deleted????

[Kikapu]

Isnt this the worse case scenario? the villa gets demolished and returned to the GC for use as a plot of land in the TRNC and the Orams now sue the "RoC" for the land in the south which maybe very valuable?

Can you for once and for all explain yourself with this idea that the Orams have a right to any land in the south that belongs to a TC as an exchange to a land they bought in the north which was stolen and has a legal owner. Which exact plot of land in the south will they be entitled to, so tell us, or are you once again making worthless propaganda to give some comfort to the morally corrupted who did buy stolen GC land in the north. I don't get it and the more you repeat your statement, the more confused I get. Lets hear your explanation, shall we.!

Well, there is an even better question. What if Apostolide's land in Lapithos was given to the one that "sold" it to Orams, not in "exchange" of his land in the south, but because he was one of the thousands who got it in exchange of their "services" to the "national cause," i.e. TMT Mujahedins and Talibans, Turkish military officers, political friends and allies of Denktash (Turks and foreigners -British,) etc? What land will the Orams be entitled in the south, in such a case?

You can use thousand and one examples, Kifeas, and nothing will add up to anything as to what VP is saying. Even if the person who "sold" Apostolide's land to Orams had land in the south, he couldn't give it to the Orams as an exchange to the one he got as an "exchange" in the north, because he has already turned his ownership of his land in the south to the "trnc" which means he is no longer the owner of his own land until a solution is found and the RoC will see to that, since he sold his stolen GC "exchanged" land to the Orams given to him by the "trnc".! VP is just talking rubbish. He is very upset with the ECJ ruling and is trying to find something to make the pain go away, just because some of his family members and friends are holding stolen GC land and may face the same music as the Orams in the coming days and months. I personally would not like to be in their shoes really, but they all volunteered in having "Bayram" with the GC's properties, so the problem lies with themselves and nobody else.!

[Oracle]

... If this program was not about the history of Cyprus then why mention the so called Turkish "Invasion"??

Mike Nicholson (the reporter) only mentioned the Turkish Invasion with reference to the fact that was the last time he was in Cyprus, reporting the news ... He was the one on the video which Piratis usually posts of the reporter in front of the Turkish parachutists (may they rot in hell!).