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Postby DT. » Wed May 20, 2009 3:11 pm

insan wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:This is a plan of LCA from a planespotter's site..

http://elliott.www9.50megs.com/CYPRUS/larnaca.htm


Image

For an idea of scale - the runway at LCA is 3000m by 45m, so by my reckoning LCA is built on over 10,000,000 square meters of land.


...and the Wiki on LCA confirms the use of the site as an airfield by GB from the 1930's

"...Larnaca Airport was hastily developed towards the end of 1974 after the invasion of Cyprus by Turkey on 20 July of the same year, which forced the closure of Nicosia International Airport. The site on which it was built (near the Larnaca Salt Lake), had been previously used as an airfield in the 1930s and, subsequently, as a military installation by the British force..."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larnaca_In ... al_Airport

So LCA
built on "tc" land = propagandist pollocks.
A small part of it = undeniably correct


A tiny or large part don't matter. Oram's villa was built on some part of Meletis' land... so what? TC owner has every right on his land to claim as Meletis has.


He should receive his expropriation compensation from the govt. In the same spirit all GC's should file lawsuits for their homes and all tc's for theirs. Lets solve this on our own...everyone to his home.
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Postby insan » Wed May 20, 2009 3:16 pm

bill cobbett wrote:
insan wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:This is a plan of LCA from a planespotter's site..

http://elliott.www9.50megs.com/CYPRUS/larnaca.htm


Image

For an idea of scale - the runway at LCA is 3000m by 45m, so by my reckoning LCA is built on over 10,000,000 square meters of land.


...and the Wiki on LCA confirms the use of the site as an airfield by GB from the 1930's

"...Larnaca Airport was hastily developed towards the end of 1974 after the invasion of Cyprus by Turkey on 20 July of the same year, which forced the closure of Nicosia International Airport. The site on which it was built (near the Larnaca Salt Lake), had been previously used as an airfield in the 1930s and, subsequently, as a military installation by the British force..."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larnaca_In ... al_Airport

So LCA
built on "tc" land = propagandist pollocks.
A small part of it = undeniably correct


A tiny or large part don't matter. Oram's villa was built on some part of Meletis' land... so what? TC owner has every right to claim as Meletis has.


You and others Insan, on this forum and elsewhere, make the foul, lying propagandist claim that LCA is built on what was "tc" land when only a very small part was,

You have been shown again to be propagandist, partitionist, porky tellers. If you can't face the facts and the truth on this LCA affair and persist with your thieving, lying ways when you can be so clearly and easily shown to be shutting your eyes to the truth, to be propagandist liers, then you have no chance of being taken seriously and HONOURABLY in other matters.

This is why it matters.


It!s ur miscomprehension Bill. Has anyone ever given the detail that Oram's villa was built on a part of Meletis' land? No. If u consider us as propagandist bcz we didn't mention LCA built on a part of TC land; plz define all other who didn't mention that Oram's villa built on a part of Meletis' land. And this is what matters to me.
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Postby zan » Wed May 20, 2009 3:47 pm

A small part of it is TC land.. :roll:


So the TC owner does'nt matter in Billy boy poppets mind but a house that the Orams built on which is a small part in the grand scheme of things does:roll: :roll:

I am sure that the GC government will compensate the TC involved, upon a settlement, but the compensation system does not apply to the GCs:roll::roll: :roll:

Lets have the small part taped off at the airport and see if it functions. Better still, lets have the possible buildings on the land demolished.
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Postby bill cobbett » Wed May 20, 2009 3:51 pm

insan wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:
insan wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:This is a plan of LCA from a planespotter's site..

http://elliott.www9.50megs.com/CYPRUS/larnaca.htm


Image

For an idea of scale - the runway at LCA is 3000m by 45m, so by my reckoning LCA is built on over 10,000,000 square meters of land.


...and the Wiki on LCA confirms the use of the site as an airfield by GB from the 1930's

"...Larnaca Airport was hastily developed towards the end of 1974 after the invasion of Cyprus by Turkey on 20 July of the same year, which forced the closure of Nicosia International Airport. The site on which it was built (near the Larnaca Salt Lake), had been previously used as an airfield in the 1930s and, subsequently, as a military installation by the British force..."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larnaca_In ... al_Airport

So LCA
built on "tc" land = propagandist pollocks.
A small part of it = undeniably correct


A tiny or large part don't matter. Oram's villa was built on some part of Meletis' land... so what? TC owner has every right to claim as Meletis has.


You and others Insan, on this forum and elsewhere, make the foul, lying propagandist claim that LCA is built on what was "tc" land when only a very small part was,

You have been shown again to be propagandist, partitionist, porky tellers. If you can't face the facts and the truth on this LCA affair and persist with your thieving, lying ways when you can be so clearly and easily shown to be shutting your eyes to the truth, to be propagandist liers, then you have no chance of being taken seriously and HONOURABLY in other matters.

This is why it matters.


It!s ur miscomprehension Bill. Has anyone ever given the detail that Oram's villa was built on a part of Meletis' land? No. If u consider us as propagandist bcz we didn't mention LCA built on a part of TC land; plz define all other who didn't mention that Oram's villa built on a part of Meletis' land. And this is what matters to me.


It's Apostolides's land reh. ...

..and I know it belongs to Mr A, all of it, 100% of it, not because of some dubious, partitionist, propagandist, lying, claim, I know it cos the Nicosia District Court, The GB High Court and The European Court of Justice makes it a FACT .
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Postby denizaksulu » Wed May 20, 2009 3:55 pm

bill cobbett wrote:
insan wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:
insan wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:This is a plan of LCA from a planespotter's site..

http://elliott.www9.50megs.com/CYPRUS/larnaca.htm


Image

For an idea of scale - the runway at LCA is 3000m by 45m, so by my reckoning LCA is built on over 10,000,000 square meters of land.


...and the Wiki on LCA confirms the use of the site as an airfield by GB from the 1930's

"...Larnaca Airport was hastily developed towards the end of 1974 after the invasion of Cyprus by Turkey on 20 July of the same year, which forced the closure of Nicosia International Airport. The site on which it was built (near the Larnaca Salt Lake), had been previously used as an airfield in the 1930s and, subsequently, as a military installation by the British force..."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larnaca_In ... al_Airport

So LCA
built on "tc" land = propagandist pollocks.
A small part of it = undeniably correct


A tiny or large part don't matter. Oram's villa was built on some part of Meletis' land... so what? TC owner has every right to claim as Meletis has.


You and others Insan, on this forum and elsewhere, make the foul, lying propagandist claim that LCA is built on what was "tc" land when only a very small part was,

You have been shown again to be propagandist, partitionist, porky tellers. If you can't face the facts and the truth on this LCA affair and persist with your thieving, lying ways when you can be so clearly and easily shown to be shutting your eyes to the truth, to be propagandist liers, then you have no chance of being taken seriously and HONOURABLY in other matters.

This is why it matters.


It!s ur miscomprehension Bill. Has anyone ever given the detail that Oram's villa was built on a part of Meletis' land? No. If u consider us as propagandist bcz we didn't mention LCA built on a part of TC land; plz define all other who didn't mention that Oram's villa built on a part of Meletis' land. And this is what matters to me.


It's Apostolides's land reh. ...

..and I know it belongs to Mr A, all of it, 100% of it, not because of some dubious, partitionist, propagandist, lying, claim, I know it cos the Nicosia District Court, The GB High Court and The European Court of Justice makes it a FACT .



What was the RoC offer of compensation for? There must be at least a square inch of land belonging to a TC. So it cannot be 100% GC.
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Postby insan » Wed May 20, 2009 4:01 pm

bill cobbett wrote:
insan wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:
insan wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:This is a plan of LCA from a planespotter's site..

http://elliott.www9.50megs.com/CYPRUS/larnaca.htm


Image

For an idea of scale - the runway at LCA is 3000m by 45m, so by my reckoning LCA is built on over 10,000,000 square meters of land.


...and the Wiki on LCA confirms the use of the site as an airfield by GB from the 1930's

"...Larnaca Airport was hastily developed towards the end of 1974 after the invasion of Cyprus by Turkey on 20 July of the same year, which forced the closure of Nicosia International Airport. The site on which it was built (near the Larnaca Salt Lake), had been previously used as an airfield in the 1930s and, subsequently, as a military installation by the British force..."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larnaca_In ... al_Airport

So LCA
built on "tc" land = propagandist pollocks.
A small part of it = undeniably correct


A tiny or large part don't matter. Oram's villa was built on some part of Meletis' land... so what? TC owner has every right to claim as Meletis has.


You and others Insan, on this forum and elsewhere, make the foul, lying propagandist claim that LCA is built on what was "tc" land when only a very small part was,

You have been shown again to be propagandist, partitionist, porky tellers. If you can't face the facts and the truth on this LCA affair and persist with your thieving, lying ways when you can be so clearly and easily shown to be shutting your eyes to the truth, to be propagandist liers, then you have no chance of being taken seriously and HONOURABLY in other matters.

This is why it matters.


It!s ur miscomprehension Bill. Has anyone ever given the detail that Oram's villa was built on a part of Meletis' land? No. If u consider us as propagandist bcz we didn't mention LCA built on a part of TC land; plz define all other who didn't mention that Oram's villa built on a part of Meletis' land. And this is what matters to me.


It's Apostolides's land reh. ...

..and I know it belongs to Mr A, all of it, 100% of it, not because of some dubious, partitionist, propagandist, lying, claim, I know it cos the Nicosia District Court, The GB High Court and The European Court of Justice makes it a FACT .


It's just a part of Apostolides' land reh gumbare. Other parts of Apostollides' land weren't sold. Moreover, what's the difference of selling "stolen" land to a foreigner and building roads, airports on it? In my opinion there r no differences. Both r ancestral lands of the real owners.

It's u that still exerting to spread ur propaganda by ignoring the facts. Get conscious reh Biollaga. :wink:
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Postby bill cobbett » Wed May 20, 2009 4:02 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:
insan wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:
insan wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:This is a plan of LCA from a planespotter's site..

http://elliott.www9.50megs.com/CYPRUS/larnaca.htm


Image

For an idea of scale - the runway at LCA is 3000m by 45m, so by my reckoning LCA is built on over 10,000,000 square meters of land.


...and the Wiki on LCA confirms the use of the site as an airfield by GB from the 1930's

"...Larnaca Airport was hastily developed towards the end of 1974 after the invasion of Cyprus by Turkey on 20 July of the same year, which forced the closure of Nicosia International Airport. The site on which it was built (near the Larnaca Salt Lake), had been previously used as an airfield in the 1930s and, subsequently, as a military installation by the British force..."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larnaca_In ... al_Airport

So LCA
built on "tc" land = propagandist pollocks.
A small part of it = undeniably correct


A tiny or large part don't matter. Oram's villa was built on some part of Meletis' land... so what? TC owner has every right to claim as Meletis has.


You and others Insan, on this forum and elsewhere, make the foul, lying propagandist claim that LCA is built on what was "tc" land when only a very small part was,

You have been shown again to be propagandist, partitionist, porky tellers. If you can't face the facts and the truth on this LCA affair and persist with your thieving, lying ways when you can be so clearly and easily shown to be shutting your eyes to the truth, to be propagandist liers, then you have no chance of being taken seriously and HONOURABLY in other matters.

This is why it matters.


It!s ur miscomprehension Bill. Has anyone ever given the detail that Oram's villa was built on a part of Meletis' land? No. If u consider us as propagandist bcz we didn't mention LCA built on a part of TC land; plz define all other who didn't mention that Oram's villa built on a part of Meletis' land. And this is what matters to me.


It's Apostolides's land reh. ...

..and I know it belongs to Mr A, all of it, 100% of it, not because of some dubious, partitionist, propagandist, lying, claim, I know it cos the Nicosia District Court, The GB High Court and The European Court of Justice makes it a FACT .



What was the RoC offer of compensation for? There must be at least a square inch of land belonging to a TC. So it cannot be 100% GC.


Absolutely Deniz, a small part of it was, no doubt. By my reckoning (if you believe my estimate that LCA is built on 9 million m2) so far we have shown the 145,000 m2, that Halil posts above, out of 9 million m2 was "tc" owned. I make that 1.6%.
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Postby bill cobbett » Wed May 20, 2009 4:10 pm

insan wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:
insan wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:
insan wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:This is a plan of LCA from a planespotter's site..

http://elliott.www9.50megs.com/CYPRUS/larnaca.htm


Image

For an idea of scale - the runway at LCA is 3000m by 45m, so by my reckoning LCA is built on over 10,000,000 square meters of land.


...and the Wiki on LCA confirms the use of the site as an airfield by GB from the 1930's

"...Larnaca Airport was hastily developed towards the end of 1974 after the invasion of Cyprus by Turkey on 20 July of the same year, which forced the closure of Nicosia International Airport. The site on which it was built (near the Larnaca Salt Lake), had been previously used as an airfield in the 1930s and, subsequently, as a military installation by the British force..."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larnaca_In ... al_Airport

So LCA
built on "tc" land = propagandist pollocks.
A small part of it = undeniably correct


A tiny or large part don't matter. Oram's villa was built on some part of Meletis' land... so what? TC owner has every right to claim as Meletis has.


You and others Insan, on this forum and elsewhere, make the foul, lying propagandist claim that LCA is built on what was "tc" land when only a very small part was,

You have been shown again to be propagandist, partitionist, porky tellers. If you can't face the facts and the truth on this LCA affair and persist with your thieving, lying ways when you can be so clearly and easily shown to be shutting your eyes to the truth, to be propagandist liers, then you have no chance of being taken seriously and HONOURABLY in other matters.

This is why it matters.


It!s ur miscomprehension Bill. Has anyone ever given the detail that Oram's villa was built on a part of Meletis' land? No. If u consider us as propagandist bcz we didn't mention LCA built on a part of TC land; plz define all other who didn't mention that Oram's villa built on a part of Meletis' land. And this is what matters to me.


It's Apostolides's land reh. ...

..and I know it belongs to Mr A, all of it, 100% of it, not because of some dubious, partitionist, propagandist, lying, claim, I know it cos the Nicosia District Court, The GB High Court and The European Court of Justice makes it a FACT .


It's just a part of Apostolides' land reh gumbare. Other parts of Apostollides' land weren't sold. Moreover, what's the difference of selling "stolen" land to a foreigner and building roads, airports on it? In my opinion there r no differences. Both r ancestral lands of the real owners.

It's u that still exerting to spread ur propaganda by ignoring the facts. Get conscious reh Biollaga. :wink:


Reh Insan, you're probably a very nice chap/chapess and I look forward to you buying me a beer on one of your visits to Free Larnaca to make it up to me for your lying ways.

In the meantime reflect on this. As you well know, where-ever you go in the world, governments will take over individual land ownings by means of compulsory purchase in order to build major infrastructure projects such as airports and roads. They do not however steal thousands of square miles from 10,000's individual land-owners, make out dodgy kochans and sell other people's lands to third parties. There's your difference but I'm pretty sure you already knew that.
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Postby insan » Wed May 20, 2009 4:31 pm

bill cobbett wrote:
insan wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:
insan wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:
insan wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:This is a plan of LCA from a planespotter's site..

http://elliott.www9.50megs.com/CYPRUS/larnaca.htm


Image

For an idea of scale - the runway at LCA is 3000m by 45m, so by my reckoning LCA is built on over 10,000,000 square meters of land.


...and the Wiki on LCA confirms the use of the site as an airfield by GB from the 1930's

"...Larnaca Airport was hastily developed towards the end of 1974 after the invasion of Cyprus by Turkey on 20 July of the same year, which forced the closure of Nicosia International Airport. The site on which it was built (near the Larnaca Salt Lake), had been previously used as an airfield in the 1930s and, subsequently, as a military installation by the British force..."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larnaca_In ... al_Airport

So LCA
built on "tc" land = propagandist pollocks.
A small part of it = undeniably correct


A tiny or large part don't matter. Oram's villa was built on some part of Meletis' land... so what? TC owner has every right to claim as Meletis has.


You and others Insan, on this forum and elsewhere, make the foul, lying propagandist claim that LCA is built on what was "tc" land when only a very small part was,

You have been shown again to be propagandist, partitionist, porky tellers. If you can't face the facts and the truth on this LCA affair and persist with your thieving, lying ways when you can be so clearly and easily shown to be shutting your eyes to the truth, to be propagandist liers, then you have no chance of being taken seriously and HONOURABLY in other matters.

This is why it matters.


It!s ur miscomprehension Bill. Has anyone ever given the detail that Oram's villa was built on a part of Meletis' land? No. If u consider us as propagandist bcz we didn't mention LCA built on a part of TC land; plz define all other who didn't mention that Oram's villa built on a part of Meletis' land. And this is what matters to me.


It's Apostolides's land reh. ...

..and I know it belongs to Mr A, all of it, 100% of it, not because of some dubious, partitionist, propagandist, lying, claim, I know it cos the Nicosia District Court, The GB High Court and The European Court of Justice makes it a FACT .


It's just a part of Apostolides' land reh gumbare. Other parts of Apostollides' land weren't sold. Moreover, what's the difference of selling "stolen" land to a foreigner and building roads, airports on it? In my opinion there r no differences. Both r ancestral lands of the real owners.

It's u that still exerting to spread ur propaganda by ignoring the facts. Get conscious reh Biollaga. :wink:


Reh Insan, you're probably a very nice chap/chapess and I look forward to you buying me a beer on one of your visits to Free Larnaca to make it up to me for your lying ways.

In the meantime reflect on this. As you well know, where-ever you go in the world, governments will take over individual land ownings by means of compulsory purchase in order to build major infrastructure projects such as airports and roads. They do not however steal thousands of square miles from 10,000's individual land-owners, make out dodgy kochans and sell other people's lands to third parties. There's your difference but I'm pretty sure you already knew that.


Reh Bill, every action should be evaluated in their own circumstances. Selling a tiny portion of land belongs to a GC, in North arise from 35 years of unresolved Cyprus problem and rather economic sanctions on TC community.

In 1975, Bi-zonality was accepted under the then hostile circumstances, besides the solution of the Cyprus problem based on a bi-zonal, bi-communal federation.

This means, some 1/3 of properties belong to GC refugees wouldn't be able to return their homes as a compromise to preserve bi-zonality. In the last 35 years even not that long ago, just a tiny portion of land belongs to GC land owners was sold to foreigners.

TRNC authorities consider the sale of land belongs to GCs in this frame. There's no ill-intention.

However, it is a cyrstal clear fact that GC leadership has never genuinely accepted bi-zonality neither bi-communality or political equality. In the last 35 years they kept pursuing the same political stance to make TC community an ineffective muslim minority in Cyprus. U too have the same mentality. "TC", eh? :lol:

As for buying a beer for u in the so-called free Larnaca, why not... We can have good relations and socialise, no matter the divergences we have. I don't like using foul language but if u use, i'll be urged to respond same way...
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Postby Kikapu » Wed May 20, 2009 4:39 pm

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cyprusgeoff wrote:UK to Turkey, off one aircraft and on to another then on to North Cyprus
I would have thought.

Probably they are now seeking to avoid the two legs and fly direct.


As far as I know, the plane lands in Turkey and then takes off again, this time on a flight with another number.


I call it the "Midnight Express".!

If CTA is not careful, once the ECJ ruling has cleared the UK courts, they may become on a "hit list" for individuals and companies trespassing on GC land that the Ercan airport is built on. If they do not pay the fines, then it will be easy to confiscate the planes upon landing on any of the EU's other 26 member states by the actions of the courts.!



zan wrote:You land in the South mate and make sure you kiss the ground because it is built on TC land and when you lift your lips off the ground be sure to wipe the TC blood from your lips :evil:


Ah, Zan.! I read somewhere that you were DEAD.!

Opps, sorry, I read it wrong. It says that your BRAIN was DEAD.!

Then again, reading your usual comments, they must have meant that you are in fact BRAINDEAD.!

zan wrote:Ansd you've got the cheek to demonise your own people for flying to their own country!! :roll:


Who demonised whom and what country are you talking about.???

Have you woken up to the realities in Cyprus yet, Zan or are you still in a state of Suspended Animation.?

Glad that you are back by the way, Brain-Dead and all.!

By the way, just before you went AWOL on us couple of months ago, you promised to provide some information that you were going to get from your brother-in-law about the "concentration camps" that were set up in Küçük Kaymakli by the GC's where the TC captives were "starved to death".........................AND.????

I just wanted to make a comparison to the place where we were kept as captives, which sounds very much different than the one that you were talking about.!
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