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[miltiades]

If Miltiades is such a big supporter of Americans, then perhaps he will do well to read the above link, which is an American source, acknowledging British involvement in the destruction of Cyprus.

I think you are having a laugh Icarus, Miltiades would never read any article which may cast doubt upon the integrity of his mentors, he has spent so much of his life in the land of those that brought about the destruction here, he has become one of them, body and soul.

I think the poor old chap is suffering from some kind of guilt complex and believes that by verbally abusing everyone who has an opinion which conflicts with his own, he may be forgiven for his desertion all those years ago.

A first class idiot such as you should know that in the 50s and early 60s thousands upon thousands of Cypriots emigrated to the UK and other parts of the world in search of a better life away from poverty. A fool such as you calls them deserters !! Where is your brain mate , in your arse no doubt , your stupidity is beyond comprehension now get off my face I have no time for blithering idiots !
What a Plonker !

Now Now Miltiades, don't try and tar everyone with the same brush as yourself, as a confirmed 'Brit' (due to the length of your stay in that foreign land which brought about the destruction of Cyprus) you should not offer insult to genuine Cypriots.

Obviously, being resident among the 'Brits' for such a long period, you are bound to have developed some of their nasty habits, insulting foreigners has always been a typical trait.

Do try and be a bit more respectful towards those who chose to remain/return to our beloved homeland.

Re malaka , how old old are you ? Are you naturally stupid or just selectively stupid. Your parents emigrated also , dont try playing clever with me , you Mr Plonker were brought up on born in the UK .Your parents were IMMIGRANTS , you returned to Cyprus , you are a pauper and have a great big chip on your shoulders ! Tell me I'M RIGHT !

Terribly sorry to disappoint old boy, wrong on all points I'm afraid.

Nothing unusual there then 'eh ?.

So it wasnt the UK but one other destination , so what , you were NOT born in Cyprus and if you were then you grew up in an English speaking country . So here you have it the old boy IS right .

[cyprusgeoff]

What amazes me is the gross stupidity of the idiots on this forum who because they are racist morons seem to believe that all the tourists are British.

There are a great many nationalities from all over the world who come to Cyprus for their holidays and these people are getting the same rip off attitude as the British.

You might catch these people once, maybe twice but tourists from where ever they come from are not stupid whatever some of the ignorant pigs
on this forum might say.

For every tourist that goes back to their homeland dissatisfied with the treatment and the high prices there are always 3 or 4 of their friends who might have come to Cyprus who now would think again and stay away.

Bad news always travels faster than good news and there is precious little good news for tourists here apart from the weather and to date, no water cuts.

[Icarus]

Here are some figures for you to chew on:-

Tourism occupies a dominant position in the economy of Cyprus.[1]
· In 2006 it was expected to contribute 10.7% of GDP.
· in real terms it generated CYP£2,598.2 mn (US$5,445.0 mn) (annual-2006).
· total employment was estimated at 113,000 jobs (29.7% of total employment = 1 in every 3.4 jobs).

GDP US$21.382 Billion (As of 2007)

Source Wikepedia

I have highlighted the earnings for GDP and tourist income for different years (2006 and 2007) but even on these figure tourism is 25% of GDP and this figure will be higher if shown as a percentage of overseas earnings

If Cyprus wants to attract better tourists it needs better resorts first.

It’s very strange that Milti and Jerry decided to quote the Wiki with its 2006 figures and erroneous information that tourism has the number 1 income earning spot in Cyprus, when I posted the most reliable and up to date source yesterday, namely the Statistical Service of Cyprus (CYSTAT) where we found…

Year..........Arrivals..........Revenue......Spend p/person
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2006........2,400,924.......1,755.3..........€731
2007........2,416,081…....1,858.1…......€769
2008........2,403,750…....1,792.8..........€745

http://www.mof.gov.cy/mof/cystat/statis ... t&sub=2&e=

If Tourism amounts to only 10-12% of the country's GDP, then how can it possibly be the #1 income earner?

The idiot also concluded that because Tourism generated US$5,445.0 mn out of US$21.382 Billion GDP then tourism acoounted for 25% of GDP...

And at the same time the wiki specifically stated that Tourism accounted for 10.7% of GDP and to day it only accounts for 7%.

No wonder he sells pots and pans.

I hope he has a good accountant, because he has no idea about economics...

Well based on Wiki figures perhaps you can do the calulation for us:-

Tourism generated US$5,445.0 mn
GDP US$21.382 Billion


Answer please?

Clue, decimal points and commas

And then show us how Wiki calculated 10.7%

That is not how you work out GDP.

The formula for working out GDP is as follows:

GDP = consumption + gross investment + government spending + (exports − imports)

[Icarus]

"Britain has been the caused all of our troubles as you well know."

Well, thats is a relief; I have been thinking all along that those wretched Turks had been a bit of a nuisance - I can stop boycotting Kebabs now...

Lana

Boycott warm English beer instead....

[Icarus]

Cyprusgeoff wrote:

For every tourist that goes back to their homeland dissatisfied with the treatment and the high prices there are always 3 or 4 of their friends who might have come to Cyprus who now would think again and stay away.

Bad news always travels faster than good news and there is precious little good news for tourists here apart from the weather and to date, no water cuts.

Even more reason to double the poushtoenglezo tax.....

[miltiades]

GDP can be extremely complex but as a rule it represents the value of all goods and services produced in a specific country. It is the broadest measure of economic activity and the principal indicator of economic performance covering total market values of goods and services produced by workers and capital within a nation's borders during a given period (usually 1 year))

When one is measuring the level of a particular contribution by a specific market ie Tourism , care must be taken not to confuse such contribution when presenting percentages since the GDP components are , amongst others , Government expenditures such as salary payments , development expenses such as road building and off course military expenditure , so therefore a percentage of tourism revenue based on the total GDP isn't the criteria of measuring financial benefits to the nation . We should look at the number of labour involved in the industry , currently just over 30% of total labour market , that in itself is an indicator of how important to the economy tourism is.
In trying to apply a % against total GDP leads to confusion buy the untrained and sometimes naive individual .
The broad definition given by WILKIPEDIA is correct but as you know it includes government spending as well as the difference between exports and imports , in the case of Cyprus imports are far greater than exports so the end result is a further addition on top of government spending and such factors as home consumption GI etc.
As you can see simply applying a % and then stating that 10 or so% is insignificant is not the criteria for measuring the impact that tourism has on the Cypriot economy .
130,000 workers , more than 30% of the entire workforce , now this is one hell of a criteria to use.

[Icarus]

GDP can be extremely complex but as a rule it represents the value of all goods and services produced in a specific country. It is the broadest measure of economic activity and the principal indicator of economic performance covering total market values of goods and services produced by workers and capital within a nation's borders during a given period (usually 1 year))

When one is measuring the level of a particular contribution by a specific market ie Tourism , care must be taken not to confuse such contribution when presenting percentages since the GDP components are , amongst others , Government expenditures such as salary payments , development expenses such as road building and off course military expenditure , so therefore a percentage of tourism revenue based on the total GDP isn't the criteria of measuring financial benefits to the nation . We should look at the number of labour involved in the industry , currently just over 30% of total labour market , that in itself is an indicator of how important to the economy tourism is.
In trying to apply a % against total GDP leads to confusion buy the untrained and sometimes naive individual .
The broad definition given by WILKIPEDIA is correct but as you know it includes government spending as well as the difference between exports and imports , in the case of Cyprus imports are far greater than exports so the end result is a further addition on top of government spending and such factors as home consumption GI etc.
As you can see simply applying a % and then stating that 10 or so% is insignificant is not the criteria for measuring the impact that tourism has on the Cypriot economy .
130,000 workers , more than 30% of the entire workforce , now this is one hell of a criteria to use.

Its not that we don't want tourism.

We just think that the Brits have made a mockery of our tourism industry and have caused more environmental harm and social problems than what they are worth.

We need to make it more restrictive for British tourists and concentrate on higher standard tourism from Greece, Germany and Scandinavia.

[miltiades]

Services accounting for nearly 78% of GDP (gross domestic product), is the primary economic activity in Cyprus. Tourism is the most important revenue earner for Cyprus economy. Other related industries in the tertiary sector include banking and financial services, real estate, transport and communication, and real estate development.

Industrial sector in Cyprus contributes over 19% towards GDP. Ship refurbishing and repairs, cement manufacturing, gypsum production, beverage processing, metal products, light chemicals, paper and wood are the key industries in this Mediterranean island. Cement, pharmaceuticals, and clothing are exported.

Around 3% of GDP is contributed by the agricultural sector. Citrus fruits, grapes, olives, vegetables, and barley are the main agricultural products. Meat processing, food processing and dairy products are other agriculture based activities in Cyprus. Citrus fruits, beverages, and potatoes are the important agricultural exports from Cyprus.

Petroleum and its products, transport equipment, consumer goods, machineries, and intermediate products constitute the major imports of Republic of Cyprus. Greece, Germany, the United Kingdom, Netherlands, France, Italy, China, and Israel are the notable trading partners of Cyprus.

www.economywatch.com

[miltiades]

GDP can be extremely complex but as a rule it represents the value of all goods and services produced in a specific country. It is the broadest measure of economic activity and the principal indicator of economic performance covering total market values of goods and services produced by workers and capital within a nation's borders during a given period (usually 1 year))

When one is measuring the level of a particular contribution by a specific market ie Tourism , care must be taken not to confuse such contribution when presenting percentages since the GDP components are , amongst others , Government expenditures such as salary payments , development expenses such as road building and off course military expenditure , so therefore a percentage of tourism revenue based on the total GDP isn't the criteria of measuring financial benefits to the nation . We should look at the number of labour involved in the industry , currently just over 30% of total labour market , that in itself is an indicator of how important to the economy tourism is.
In trying to apply a % against total GDP leads to confusion buy the untrained and sometimes naive individual .
The broad definition given by WILKIPEDIA is correct but as you know it includes government spending as well as the difference between exports and imports , in the case of Cyprus imports are far greater than exports so the end result is a further addition on top of government spending and such factors as home consumption GI etc.
As you can see simply applying a % and then stating that 10 or so% is insignificant is not the criteria for measuring the impact that tourism has on the Cypriot economy .
130,000 workers , more than 30% of the entire workforce , now this is one hell of a criteria to use.

Its not that we don't want tourism.

We just think that the Brits have made a mockery of our tourism industry and have caused more environmental harm and social problems than what they are worth.

We need to make it more restrictive for British tourists and concentrate on higher standard tourism from Greece, Germany and Scandinavia.

So basically what you are saying is that you hate the Brits !!!
Greeks dont visit Cyprus in large numbers they prefer their own islands plus they dont like Cypriots !!!
Germans are too bloody tight and the Scandinavians want every beach to be a nudist one !!!
More than half of tourism derives from the UK , the yobs are but a small minority , may I ask how well you know the Brits ?

[Icarus]

GDP can be extremely complex but as a rule it represents the value of all goods and services produced in a specific country. It is the broadest measure of economic activity and the principal indicator of economic performance covering total market values of goods and services produced by workers and capital within a nation's borders during a given period (usually 1 year))

When one is measuring the level of a particular contribution by a specific market ie Tourism , care must be taken not to confuse such contribution when presenting percentages since the GDP components are , amongst others , Government expenditures such as salary payments , development expenses such as road building and off course military expenditure , so therefore a percentage of tourism revenue based on the total GDP isn't the criteria of measuring financial benefits to the nation . We should look at the number of labour involved in the industry , currently just over 30% of total labour market , that in itself is an indicator of how important to the economy tourism is.
In trying to apply a % against total GDP leads to confusion buy the untrained and sometimes naive individual .
The broad definition given by WILKIPEDIA is correct but as you know it includes government spending as well as the difference between exports and imports , in the case of Cyprus imports are far greater than exports so the end result is a further addition on top of government spending and such factors as home consumption GI etc.
As you can see simply applying a % and then stating that 10 or so% is insignificant is not the criteria for measuring the impact that tourism has on the Cypriot economy .
130,000 workers , more than 30% of the entire workforce , now this is one hell of a criteria to use.

Its not that we don't want tourism.

We just think that the Brits have made a mockery of our tourism industry and have caused more environmental harm and social problems than what they are worth.

We need to make it more restrictive for British tourists and concentrate on higher standard tourism from Greece, Germany and Scandinavia.

So basically what you are saying is that you hate the Brits !!!
Greeks dont visit Cyprus in large numbers they prefer their own islands plus they dont like Cypriots !!!
Germans are too bloody tight and the Scandinavians want every beach to be a nudist one !!!
More than half of tourism derives from the UK , the yobs are but a small minority , may I ask how well you know the Brits ?

They Greeks don't like Cypriots?

Greeks are a very genuine and kind hearted race.

And they love Cypriots very much. They even got Cyprus into the EU, and without Greece Cyprus would still be in the political wilderness.

I don't hate all Brits. It is just that the majority of all Brits are arseholes and I also hold the nation responsible for destroying Cyprus. And for that, they need to be punished and I'm just the guy who is eager to teach them a lesson or 2...

More Scandinavian nudists please....