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Postby tcklim » Sun May 17, 2009 7:03 pm

miltiades wrote:I highlighted the fact that each and every race of people on this planet are represented in the USA. Millions have risked life and limb trying to get to the USA , the greatest nation on this earth ( After Cyprus !!)
Why on earth would millions of humans from every corner of the world would want to live in a country that according to You , has the worst human rights violations record. Bullocks mate.
Any mate of Bin Fucking Laden is no friend of the free world , and you are undoubtedly attached to the sick mentality that circulates in the third world where all blame for the bloody mess that they created themselves is the fault of the USA. Most of these nations would starve to death if it wasnt for Western aid.
You are on record , on this forum , supporting every enemy of the USA which translates to every enemy of the free world , including Cyprus . Get your brain serviced and stay away from all these crappy sites you seem to be obsessed with.
There is no other country where freedom, opportunity, human rights are protected by the greatest constitution the world has ever seen.


Wow, i'm not one who normally advocates blaming all of the worlds political problems on the U.S, but to say they their policies have not at times been imperialistic and hypocritical is naive. Their Foreign Policies have always been to serve their interests irrespective of who they have to topple to do so. If you are so in love with the so-called 'land of the free' why don't you join the masses over there?

Personally, I have lived in the U.S and was very happy to leave. Just because you seem to find it the 'greatest country in the world' doesn't mean we all have to nod in agreement. It's that kind of pompous attitude I encountered over there that put me off, as well as the general ignorance of a significant portion of the population with regard to anything outside of their borders. It is far from being an ideal country and we enjoy more freedoms in the U.K than they do in the U.S.

The U.S - whilst it has done a lot of good in the world - has also done incredible wrongs. However, we should never simply place blame on the U.S for political failings our own countries.
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Postby Paphitis » Mon May 18, 2009 5:36 am

Barack Obama is a War Criminal...

Obama's latest effort to conceal evidence of Bush era crimes
http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/ ... index.html


The above is a JUNK link.....

Democrats Grow Uneasy Over Obama’s Hawkish Policies
http://news.antiwar.com/2009/05/14/unea ... -policies/

Obama to Revive Terror Tribunals
http://news.antiwar.com/2009/05/14/obam ... tribunals/

Obama Mulls ‘Indefinite Detention’ Without Trial for Detainees
http://news.antiwar.com/2009/05/14/obam ... detainees/

Rights Groups Slam Bid to Suppress Abuse Pics
http://original.antiwar.com/fisher/2009 ... buse-pics/


All of the above are articles from the antiwar JUNK website....

Afghan Villagers Describe Chaos of U.S. Strikes
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/15/world ... wanted=all


:shocked: The NYT is credible and is what you would expect from a free and democratic nation..... :D

Now GR!, do you mind telling me exactly how the civilised world is planning to punish the coalition over War Crimes in Afghanistan?

Perhaps I missed the last lot of UN resolutions condemning the coalition invasion of Afghanistan. Can you please post them here. Many thanks. :D

When you do post these UN resolutions then i can tell you that Australia, Britain and the US absolutely snub their noses at the UN, because the minute they issue something that is adverse to us we will just say "who cares". Because the fact of the matter is, we all think that the UN is a toothless tiger and Australia for one could not give a damn if it was even booted out of this pointless organization.

If the coalition has violated international law, then I ask you to clearly outline which law we have violated and also point out any UN condemnation or resolutions.

Once you have done that, then I will ask the civilised world and the UN, exactly what they intend doing about it.

I am sure that was you do that, the uncivilised coalition barbarians will be trembling in their boots as they probably fear some form of international intervention or sanctions.

Until then, the coalition will treat the UN and Amnesty International with total contempt and disregard any shit from any nation or left wing progressive forces because at this point in time we just could not give 2 hoots about the UN, ICAO, Amnesty International, the WTO, World Bank and EU... :wink:

The coalition is willing to tell the UN to Phuck Off if required.

As an Australian and Cypriot citizen I am willing to tell the UN that it serves absolutely no purpose and that ALL UN resolutions are not even worth the paper they are written on. :wink:

Looking forward to your reply.

The barbarian Aussies are waiting in anticipation. :D
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Postby Paphitis » Mon May 18, 2009 5:46 am

Get Real! wrote:Principles of International Law Recognized in the Charter of the Nüremberg Tribunal and in the Judgment of the Tribunal, 1950.

Principle VI

The crimes hereinafter set out are punishable as crimes under international law:

(a) Crimes against peace:

(i) Planning, preparation, initiation or waging of a war of aggression or a war in violation of international treaties, agreements or assurances;
(ii) Participation in a common plan or conspiracy for the accomplishment of any of the acts mentioned under (i).

(b) War crimes:

Violations of the laws or customs of war include, but are not limited to, murder, ill-treatment or deportation to slave-labour or for any other purpose of civilian population of or in occupied territory, murder or ill-treatment of prisoners of war, of persons on the seas, killing of hostages, plunder of public or private property, wanton destruction of cities, towns, or villages, or devastation not justified by military necessity.

(c) Crimes against humanity:

Murder, extermination, enslavement, deportation and other inhuman acts done against any civilian population, or persecutions on political, racial or religious grounds, when such acts are done or such persecutions are carried on in execution of or in connection with any crime against peace or any war crime.

http://www.icrc.org/ihl.nsf/FULL/390?OpenDocument


Once again, please offer us some evidence of War Crimes committed by the coalition countries in Afghanistan as defined by the above Charter.

Once you have done that, then the coalition will await until the civilised world grows some balls and actually does something about it.

Until then, we will do exactly what we want to defend our citizens from international terrorism.

Also note that theoretically, destroying a village and wiping out the entire population is NOT even a War crime under the above definitions as it could be deemed "justified by military necessity".

Once again, all Aussies await GR!s verdict and at this point are trembling in their boots.... :lol:

The coalition deems itself above GR!s version of international law until somone actually is strong and brave enough to teach us a lesson...:wink:

Once again, we spit on your "Principles of International Law". :D
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Postby Paphitis » Mon May 18, 2009 5:54 am

Get Real! wrote:
miltiades wrote:Why are you so pathetically obsessed with anything anti American !!
Did that Americaniko daxtylo touche some sensitive parts of your body creating an avalanche of crap . Get a life Plonker America IS the Greatest nation on this planet , after Cyprus !!

International Humanitarian Law does indeed seem “anti-American” since Americans are the world’s biggest violators of it.


Who said?

And what are they going to do about it?
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Postby Paphitis » Mon May 18, 2009 6:12 am

U.N. Challenges U.S. Rights Record
Human Rights Committee Criticizes U.S. Practices
http://www.hrw.org/en/news/2006/07/26/u ... hts-record


Junk Link!

Human rights violations in US: Kettle calling the pot black
http://www.merinews.com/catFull.jsp?articleID=131000


Junk Link!



:roll: Junk Link!

Under the powers granted to me by GR! in this thread:

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.p ... le&start=0

I hereby declare all of the above as NOT Credible and hereby disqualify them as proper and credible evidence.... 8)

This has been a public CF announcement on behalf of all trembling Aussies and uncivilised barbarians everywhere, and authorised by Paphitis.... :lol:
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Postby Paphitis » Mon May 18, 2009 6:28 am

Talisker wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Talisker wrote:I argued yesterday that our military intervention could be counterproductive

Paphitis wrote:I believe we have given the Afghanis a commitment that we will not allow them to suffer at the hands of the Taliban ever again.

:roll: Listening to Talisker and Paphitis is like watching a Punch & Judy show…

Hey bozos, this thread is about the “Principles of International Law” not your thesis on the “correct” application of imperialist double standards!

Now, bugger off the both of you!

Well, duh....................did you actually define the intended content of this thread or did you just lazily provide a handful of loosely connected hyperlinks, and a sensationalist title to attract interest? Next time you give us the privilege of your superior fact-finding and information-spreading threads please also define the parameters within which you'd like us 'bozos' to discuss said knowledge (for which we're eternally grateful). I'm presuming you'd prefer an empty thread, with no responses from anyone, and us all sitting at home reading the information you provide, nodding sagely, and feeling grateful for your 'input'? You may not have noticed that your final hyperlink related to Afghanistan, which I believe Paphitis and I were discussing. Or perhaps you don't actually read the information within your generously provided links........ :roll:


:lol: :lol: :lol:

Unfortunately, GR! has provided a whole stack of sensationalist articles which are not deemed by GR! as Credible in accordance with his self implemented rules of engagement and debate as outlined in the below Article of "What Constitutes Credible Evidence":

Article 5 of this CF Law on "What Costitutes Credible Evidence" clearly states:

5. Open source online encyclopedias such as the Wikipedia, that allow any person to write up articles and present them as fact with next to zero scrutiny.

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.p ... le&start=0

I don't know about you, but the only link I read was the one from NYT as this is the only link which can be deemed credible.

All the rest are Junk Links because even I could become a volunteer Amnesty International journalist and create sensationalist articles condemning "Imperial nations" everywhere and overlook the countless human rights violations committed by The Taliban against the Afghan people because they are anti west and in full agreement with my anarchistic ideologies. What I write though may not be factual but purely designed to stir anti west hysteria....the kind of gutter rubbish GR! endorses.... :wink: :wink:

BTW, the article from Rory Stuart that you posted is a prime example of credible journalism from a credible source with no real anti "imperial" or anti-west agendas. He also raises some good valid points... :wink:
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Postby Get Real! » Mon May 18, 2009 11:12 pm

You attention seeking Paphian slut! What have you done to this thread? :evil:
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Postby Paphitis » Tue May 19, 2009 3:17 am

Get Real! wrote:You attention seeking Paphian slut! What have you done to this thread? :evil:


I just treated your trash thread with total contempt and trashed it some more...... :lol: :lol:
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Postby Get Real! » Sat May 23, 2009 7:25 pm

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Postby Free Spirit » Sat May 23, 2009 11:48 pm

Paphitis wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
miltiades wrote:Why are you so pathetically obsessed with anything anti American !!
Did that Americaniko daxtylo touche some sensitive parts of your body creating an avalanche of crap . Get a life Plonker America IS the Greatest nation on this planet , after Cyprus !!

International Humanitarian Law does indeed seem “anti-American” since Americans are the world’s biggest violators of it.


Who said?

And what are they going to do about it?
Ignore him he's just a rebel without a clue.
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