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[Viewpoint]

Again, as one would expect, the Turkish Cypriot estimates of Turkish Cypriot-owned land on either side of the island are much higher than the Greek Cypriot estimates: 33.1% of privately owned land in the north, and 22.8% of privately owned land in the south (corresponding Greek Cypriot figures are 21.1% and 13.9%, respectively). What is more important is the percentage of Greek Cypriot private property in the north. The Turkish Cypriot side estimates this at 1,228,838 donums, which is equivalent to 63.8% of all privately owned land in the north. Although significantly lower than the corresponding Greek Cypriot estimate (1,463,382 donums or 78.5%), this is still a remarkably high percentage.


God knows what will happen at the table

Mr X will have to invite a pole dancer to distract Talat from these figures.

It is not up to what the TC side or Talat say, but what the international community accept, which is basically what the RoC land registry records say. The RoC land registry records are always open to inspection for anyone wishing to see each property's history records. Nevertheless, this is also what the CoE and the ECtHRs accept in all the property cases of Cyprus.

International experts can solve this once and for all taking into account all documenttion and the decision will have to be accepted by both sides.

[Kifeas]

Again, as one would expect, the Turkish Cypriot estimates of Turkish Cypriot-owned land on either side of the island are much higher than the Greek Cypriot estimates: 33.1% of privately owned land in the north, and 22.8% of privately owned land in the south (corresponding Greek Cypriot figures are 21.1% and 13.9%, respectively). What is more important is the percentage of Greek Cypriot private property in the north. The Turkish Cypriot side estimates this at 1,228,838 donums, which is equivalent to 63.8% of all privately owned land in the north. Although significantly lower than the corresponding Greek Cypriot estimate (1,463,382 donums or 78.5%), this is still a remarkably high percentage.


God knows what will happen at the table

Mr X will have to invite a pole dancer to distract Talat from these figures.

old Cypriots habit Bargaining (Pazarlık ,bazarliki ) not popular in these days .......

It's not just the actual areas but complicated by the land price differences between the north and the south.

And what is this supposed to mean? That because the north was illegally occupied by Turkey and thus remained outside the legal property market framework, the GC properties in the north should be devaluated and the TC properties in the south should remain appreciated? Does your mother have more cleverish sons like yourself, or are you just her only one?

[Viewpoint]

Again, as one would expect, the Turkish Cypriot estimates of Turkish Cypriot-owned land on either side of the island are much higher than the Greek Cypriot estimates: 33.1% of privately owned land in the north, and 22.8% of privately owned land in the south (corresponding Greek Cypriot figures are 21.1% and 13.9%, respectively). What is more important is the percentage of Greek Cypriot private property in the north. The Turkish Cypriot side estimates this at 1,228,838 donums, which is equivalent to 63.8% of all privately owned land in the north. Although significantly lower than the corresponding Greek Cypriot estimate (1,463,382 donums or 78.5%), this is still a remarkably high percentage.


God knows what will happen at the table

Mr X will have to invite a pole dancer to distract Talat from these figures.

old Cypriots habit Bargaining (Pazarlık ,bazarliki ) not popular in these days .......

It's not just the actual areas but complicated by the land price differences between the north and the south.

And what is this supposed to mean? That because the north was illegally occupied by Turkey and thus remained outside the legal property market framework, the GC properties in the north should be devaluated and the TC properties in the south should remain appreciated? Does your mother have more cleverish sons like yourself, or are you just her only one?

refugees on both sides should get full market value for their property including land taken by the "RoC" or alternatively a choice of land in the south or north.

[halil]

Again, as one would expect, the Turkish Cypriot estimates of Turkish Cypriot-owned land on either side of the island are much higher than the Greek Cypriot estimates: 33.1% of privately owned land in the north, and 22.8% of privately owned land in the south (corresponding Greek Cypriot figures are 21.1% and 13.9%, respectively). What is more important is the percentage of Greek Cypriot private property in the north. The Turkish Cypriot side estimates this at 1,228,838 donums, which is equivalent to 63.8% of all privately owned land in the north. Although significantly lower than the corresponding Greek Cypriot estimate (1,463,382 donums or 78.5%), this is still a remarkably high percentage.


God knows what will happen at the table

Mr X will have to invite a pole dancer to distract Talat from these figures.

It is not up to what the TC side or Talat say, but what the international community accept, which is basically what the RoC land registry records say. The RoC land registry records are always open to inspection for anyone wishing to see each property's history records. Nevertheless, this is also what the CoE and the ECtHRs accept in all the property cases of Cyprus.

International experts can solve this once and for all taking into account all documenttion and the decision will have to be accepted by both sides.

I agree on this .International experts will investigate the claims of both sides and desicions have to be accepted by both sides ...... Show your kochan ......not just playing with figures or percentages ....got to be proved !!!!!!

who ever has mouth speaks ! I can say whole world belongs to me !
Do ı have kotchans of it ...... No ...... but still i can say .... it is mine .

claims are in Cyprus look like this ..... Only international investigations and researches will end this claims .... not what i or they says !!!!!!

[Get Real!]

I agree on this .International experts will investigate the claims of both sides and desicions have to be accepted by both sides ...... Show your kochan ......not just playing with figures or percentages ....got to be proved !!!!!!

who ever has mouth speaks ! I can say whole world belongs to me !
Do ı have kotchans of it ...... No ...... but still i can say .... it is mine .

claims are in Cyprus look like this ..... Only international investigations and researches will end this claims .... not what i or they says !!!!!!

And what if they find that you actually own less than anyone ever thought? Will you accept that as FINAL or will you be crying that they made a mistake and/or call it “propaganda”?

Everyone knows TCs can be so full of shit...

[halil]

I agree on this .International experts will investigate the claims of both sides and desicions have to be accepted by both sides ...... Show your kochan ......not just playing with figures or percentages ....got to be proved !!!!!!

who ever has mouth speaks ! I can say whole world belongs to me !
Do ı have kotchans of it ...... No ...... but still i can say .... it is mine .

claims are in Cyprus look like this ..... Only international investigations and researches will end this claims .... not what i or they says !!!!!!

And what if they find that you actually own less than anyone ever thought? Will you accept that as FINAL or will you be crying that they made a mistake and/or call it “propaganda”?

Everyone knows TCs can be so full of shit...

GR .... I don't know what to say about your mind . What is the point calling to people XXXXX it shows how low is your profile Sir .....

Of-course i will accept what the Kochans are says . I would not mind in the Bi-zonal ,Bi-communal solution even we have 10% mate . What i believe is Cyprus problem did not started from the properties problem.

[umit07]

GCs can't have it both ways, on one side to wish for every one to have their land back and the other none if it belonged to Efkaf. Yeah right.

But there is absolutely no such thing as Efkaf Land registered under the 1960 Zurich Agreements or Cyprus Land Reigistry.....

Yes there is . Most of the land my grandparents cultivated on was rented land from the Evkaf this continued until 74.

[YFred]

GCs can't have it both ways, on one side to wish for every one to have their land back and the other none if it belonged to Efkaf. Yeah right.

But there is absolutely no such thing as Efkaf Land registered under the 1960 Zurich Agreements or Cyprus Land Reigistry.....

Yes there is . Most of the land my grandparents cultivated on was rented land from the Evkaf this continued until 74.

Umit, please don't demoralise Bafidis, he was having a nice dream and you woke him up. Bit more info for him. Efkaf land apparently belongs to god, and hence can never be sold. This from the horse’s mouth.

It seems the disease is catching. The real feeling some of our forumers are coming out. Not that just because it wasn’t said, it wasn’t noticed before.

[boomerang]

when a new colonial power comes the old rules are thrown out and new ones take their place...yes the ottoboys made rules but these rules were turfed when a new colonial power came along...

look at the land registry for clarification...

The land didn't belong to the ottoboys in the first place...they just grabeed it...then the british grabbed it...nothing new...

not accepting this then you need to accept the land didn't belong to the ottoboys in the firts place...

allah wasn't in Cyprus before the ottoboys landed...

[EPSILON]

Hi Halil,

I was just thinking, is the nearby ancient city-state of Salamis on Evkaf land as well?

This is very wrong, the pictured area is very new and created by Mustafa Kemal!!!