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I ploughed through all the posts above and still cannot understand where there is even a shred of evidence taht Varosha was built on Evkaf land.

Varosha was visited in 1878 by Thompson. A whole town was built by squatters on Evkaf land during the Ottoman occupaton and no one objected till now!!!!!!

Now just think what you look like when you make such assertions. In case you cannot guess I will tell you, you look like a pimp.

Don't worry, Talat has all the evidence and it will be at the negotiating table.

Personal gratification fantasies from Y-Fronts as per usual…

Still waiting for you to contribute something factual and interesting…

Ise Budana chubuki re garo. Is that factual and interesting enough for you.

Nah, it's just stupid.

Yeah, but is it more or less stupid then Y-fronts?

Y-Fronts suits you perfect because you mostly post diarrhea…

[YFred]

I ploughed through all the posts above and still cannot understand where there is even a shred of evidence taht Varosha was built on Evkaf land.

Varosha was visited in 1878 by Thompson. A whole town was built by squatters on Evkaf land during the Ottoman occupaton and no one objected till now!!!!!!

Now just think what you look like when you make such assertions. In case you cannot guess I will tell you, you look like a pimp.

Don't worry, Talat has all the evidence and it will be at the negotiating table.

Personal gratification fantasies from Y-Fronts as per usual…

Still waiting for you to contribute something factual and interesting…

Ise Budana chubuki re garo. Is that factual and interesting enough for you.

Nah, it's just stupid.

Yeah, but is it more or less stupid then Y-fronts?

Y-Fronts suits you perfect because you mostly post diarrhea…

You should know! you are the worst culprit.

[halil]

Table 1.5 Land ownership in donums for the post-1974 territories based on 1964 figures by the Greek Cypriot Department of Lands and Surveys and the Planning Bureau. (Land in the SBAs not included. ‘Greek Cypriot’ includes Armenian Cypriots and Maronite Cypriots.)
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Area North

Greek Cypriot:1,463,382 (60.60%)
Turkish Cypriot:393,791(16.31%)
Non-Cypriot:6,767(0.28%)
Public:551,150(22.82%)
Total:2,415,090(100%)
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Area Buffer Zone:
GC:112,326 (62.21%)
TC:25,362(14.05%)
Non-Cypriot:2,494(1.38%)
Public:40,384(22.37%)
Total:180,566(100%)

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Area South:

GC:2,543,021 (61.56%)
TC:413,177(10.00%)
Non-Cypriot:10,011 (0.24%)
Public:1,165,029(28.2%)
Total:4,131,238(100%)

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Whole island

GC:4,118,729 (61.23%)
TC:832,330(12.37%)
Non-Cypriot:19,272 (0.29%)
Public:1,756,563(26.11%)
Total:6,726,894(100%)

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Table 1.6 Percentages of privately owned land in the post-1974 territories based on 1964 figures by the Greek Cypriot Department of Lands and Surveys and the Planning Bureau. (Land in the SBAs not included. ‘Greek Cypriot’ includes Armenian Cypriots and Maronite
Cypriots.

Area North

GC:78.5%
TC:21.1%
Non-Cypriot:0.4

Buffer Zone:
GC:80.1%
TC:18.1%
Non-Cypriot:1.8%

Area South:
GC:85.7%
TC:13.9%
Non-Cypriot:0.3%

Whole island:
GC:82.9%
TC:16.7%
Non-Cypriot:0.4%

According to Greek Cypriot estimates (Tables 1.5 and 1.6), 1,463,382 donums of land in the north belong to Greek Cypriots. This corresponds to 60.6% of the total land and 78.5% of all privately owned land in the north.
Tables 1.7 and 1.8 below give the same type of data as in Tables 1.5 and 1.6, but on the basis of Turkish Cypriot estimates, and include the properties claimed to have been ‘snatched’ from the Evkaf. Here the figures include the SBAs. As above, the shaded areas represent the privately owned lands affected by the property dispute, that is, lands outside the control of the community from which the owners (including the Church in the case of the Greek Cypriot community and the Evkaf in the case of the Turkish Cypriot community) come.

Later on Tables 1.7 and 1.8 will come :

[ahristos]

DO YOU MEAN THAT T-C ARE THIEFS OF PROPERTIES?

[halil]

Table 1.7 Land ownership in donums for the post-1974 territories based on 1974 records by the Turkish Cypriot Cartography Department (‘south’ includes the SBAs)


Area North.

GC:1,228,838(50.71%)
TC:637,912(26.33%)
Other:59,406 (2.45%)
Public:497,000(20.51%)
Total:2,423,156(100%)

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Area Buffer Zone:
GC:126,230 (69.20%)
TC:35,823(19.64%)
Other:2,500 (1.37%)
Public:17,867(9.79%)
Total:182,420(100%)

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Area South
GC:2,269,686 (52.66%)
TC:679,057(15.76%)
Other:28,120 (0.65%)
Public:1,333,065(30.93%)
Total:4,309,928(100%)

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Whole island

GC:3,624,754 (52.41%)
TC:1,352,792 (19.56%)
Other:90,026 (1,30%)
Public:1,847,932(26.72 %)
Total:6,915,504(100%)

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Table 1.8 Percentages of privately owned land in the post-1974 territories based on 1974 records by the Turkish Cypriot Mapping Department (‘south’ includes the SBAs).

Area North:
GC:63.8%
TC:33.1%
Other:4.1%

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Buffer Zone:
GC:76.7%
TC:21.8%
Other:1.5%
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AreaSouth:

GC:76.2%
TC:22.8%
Other:0.9%

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Whole island:

GC:71.5%
TC:26.7%
Other:1.8 %


From tables 1.5,1.6 ,1.7 ,1.8 It looks there will be to many arguments will go on about properties at Cyprus talks.

[halil]

Again, as one would expect, the Turkish Cypriot estimates of Turkish Cypriot-owned land on either side of the island are much higher than the Greek Cypriot estimates: 33.1% of privately owned land in the north, and 22.8% of privately owned land in the south (corresponding Greek Cypriot figures are 21.1% and 13.9%, respectively). What is more important is the percentage of Greek Cypriot private property in the north. The Turkish Cypriot side estimates this at 1,228,838 donums, which is equivalent to 63.8% of all privately owned land in the north. Although significantly lower than the corresponding Greek Cypriot estimate (1,463,382 donums or 78.5%), this is still a remarkably high percentage.


God knows what will happen at the table

[YFred]

Again, as one would expect, the Turkish Cypriot estimates of Turkish Cypriot-owned land on either side of the island are much higher than the Greek Cypriot estimates: 33.1% of privately owned land in the north, and 22.8% of privately owned land in the south (corresponding Greek Cypriot figures are 21.1% and 13.9%, respectively). What is more important is the percentage of Greek Cypriot private property in the north. The Turkish Cypriot side estimates this at 1,228,838 donums, which is equivalent to 63.8% of all privately owned land in the north. Although significantly lower than the corresponding Greek Cypriot estimate (1,463,382 donums or 78.5%), this is still a remarkably high percentage.


God knows what will happen at the table

Mr X will have to invite a pole dancer to distract Talat from these figures.

[halil]

Again, as one would expect, the Turkish Cypriot estimates of Turkish Cypriot-owned land on either side of the island are much higher than the Greek Cypriot estimates: 33.1% of privately owned land in the north, and 22.8% of privately owned land in the south (corresponding Greek Cypriot figures are 21.1% and 13.9%, respectively). What is more important is the percentage of Greek Cypriot private property in the north. The Turkish Cypriot side estimates this at 1,228,838 donums, which is equivalent to 63.8% of all privately owned land in the north. Although significantly lower than the corresponding Greek Cypriot estimate (1,463,382 donums or 78.5%), this is still a remarkably high percentage.


God knows what will happen at the table

Mr X will have to invite a pole dancer to distract Talat from these figures.

old Cypriots habit Bargaining (Pazarlık ,bazarliki ) not popular in these days .......

[YFred]

Again, as one would expect, the Turkish Cypriot estimates of Turkish Cypriot-owned land on either side of the island are much higher than the Greek Cypriot estimates: 33.1% of privately owned land in the north, and 22.8% of privately owned land in the south (corresponding Greek Cypriot figures are 21.1% and 13.9%, respectively). What is more important is the percentage of Greek Cypriot private property in the north. The Turkish Cypriot side estimates this at 1,228,838 donums, which is equivalent to 63.8% of all privately owned land in the north. Although significantly lower than the corresponding Greek Cypriot estimate (1,463,382 donums or 78.5%), this is still a remarkably high percentage.


God knows what will happen at the table

Mr X will have to invite a pole dancer to distract Talat from these figures.

old Cypriots habit Bargaining (Pazarlık ,bazarliki ) not popular in these days .......

It's not just the actual areas but complicated by the land price differences between the north and the south.

[Kifeas]

Again, as one would expect, the Turkish Cypriot estimates of Turkish Cypriot-owned land on either side of the island are much higher than the Greek Cypriot estimates: 33.1% of privately owned land in the north, and 22.8% of privately owned land in the south (corresponding Greek Cypriot figures are 21.1% and 13.9%, respectively). What is more important is the percentage of Greek Cypriot private property in the north. The Turkish Cypriot side estimates this at 1,228,838 donums, which is equivalent to 63.8% of all privately owned land in the north. Although significantly lower than the corresponding Greek Cypriot estimate (1,463,382 donums or 78.5%), this is still a remarkably high percentage.


God knows what will happen at the table

Mr X will have to invite a pole dancer to distract Talat from these figures.

It is not up to what the TC side or Talat say, but what the international community accept, which is basically what the RoC land registry records say. The RoC land registry records are always open to inspection for anyone wishing to see each property's history records. Nevertheless, this is also what the CoE and the ECtHRs accept in all the property cases of Cyprus.