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[YFred]

GCs can't have it both ways, on one side to wish for every one to have their land back and the other none if it belonged to Efkaf. Yeah right.

But there is absolutely no such thing as Efkaf Land registered under the 1960 Zurich Agreements or Cyprus Land Reigistry.....

Which is why we have two different land registry offices. As Efkaf and their lands exist to this day, it's a bit like Ercan airport. It doesn't exist in the minds of GCs, try googleing it. The reality is different. The negotiations will prove how much Efkaf has.

[Paphitis]

GCs can't have it both ways, on one side to wish for every one to have their land back and the other none if it belonged to Efkaf. Yeah right.

But there is absolutely no such thing as Efkaf Land registered under the 1960 Zurich Agreements or Cyprus Land Reigistry.....

Which is why we have two different land registry offices. As Efkaf and their lands exist to this day, it's a bit like Ercan airport. It doesn't exist in the minds of GCs, try googleing it. The reality is different. The negotiations will prove how much Efkaf has.

Denktash said that Efkaf Land does not exist and so I am prepared to take his word for it on this occasion and add to the fact that there is no agreement that stipulates the existence of Efkaf Land anywhere.

In my mind I could say that I own all the land in Paphos as well, but that still does not make it so....

[YFred]

GCs can't have it both ways, on one side to wish for every one to have their land back and the other none if it belonged to Efkaf. Yeah right.

But there is absolutely no such thing as Efkaf Land registered under the 1960 Zurich Agreements or Cyprus Land Reigistry.....

Which is why we have two different land registry offices. As Efkaf and their lands exist to this day, it's a bit like Ercan airport. It doesn't exist in the minds of GCs, try googleing it. The reality is different. The negotiations will prove how much Efkaf has.

Denktash said that Efkaf Land does not exist and so I am prepared to take his word for it on this occasion and add to the fact that there is no agreement that stipulates the existence of Efkaf Land anywhere.

In my mind I could say that I own all the land in Paphos as well, but that still does not make it so....

If Efkaf lands can be taken by the British and given to the GCs, and it is acceptable, then there is nothing wrong with the Turks taking GC land and giving it to the TCs. That should also be acceptable. You can't change the rules as you go along.

[Paphitis]

GCs can't have it both ways, on one side to wish for every one to have their land back and the other none if it belonged to Efkaf. Yeah right.

But there is absolutely no such thing as Efkaf Land registered under the 1960 Zurich Agreements or Cyprus Land Reigistry.....

Which is why we have two different land registry offices. As Efkaf and their lands exist to this day, it's a bit like Ercan airport. It doesn't exist in the minds of GCs, try googleing it. The reality is different. The negotiations will prove how much Efkaf has.

Denktash said that Efkaf Land does not exist and so I am prepared to take his word for it on this occasion and add to the fact that there is no agreement that stipulates the existence of Efkaf Land anywhere.

In my mind I could say that I own all the land in Paphos as well, but that still does not make it so....

If Efkaf lands can be taken by the British and given to the GCs, and it is acceptable, then there is nothing wrong with the Turks taking GC land and giving it to the TCs. That should also be acceptable. You can't change the rules as you go along.

Efkaf Land is just GC land that was initially stolen by the Turks from the GCs in 1571. And Denktash just agreed to give it back....

[Get Real!]

GCs can't have it both ways, on one side to wish for every one to have their land back and the other none if it belonged to Efkaf. Yeah right.

But there is absolutely no such thing as Efkaf Land registered under the 1960 Zurich Agreements or Cyprus Land Reigistry.....

Which is why we have two different land registry offices. As Efkaf and their lands exist to this day, it's a bit like Ercan airport. It doesn't exist in the minds of GCs, try googleing it. The reality is different. The negotiations will prove how much Efkaf has.

Denktash said that Efkaf Land does not exist and so I am prepared to take his word for it on this occasion and add to the fact that there is no agreement that stipulates the existence of Efkaf Land anywhere.

In my mind I could say that I own all the land in Paphos as well, but that still does not make it so....

If Efkaf lands can be taken by the British and given to the GCs, and it is acceptable, then there is nothing wrong with the Turks taking GC land and giving it to the TCs. That should also be acceptable. You can't change the rules as you go along.

These “Evkaf lands” (read fantasy lands) you mention is the product of the Ottoman violation of Cypriot territory starting from 1570, so your argument is a load of ILLEGAL crap.

[Viewpoint]

Let independent experts examine all the evidence and decide, both sides will accept their decision and end this once and for all.

[Kifeas]

GCs can't have it both ways, on one side to wish for every one to have their land back and the other none if it belonged to Efkaf. Yeah right.

But there is absolutely no such thing as Efkaf Land registered under the 1960 Zurich Agreements or Cyprus Land Reigistry.....

Which is why we have two different land registry offices. As Efkaf and their lands exist to this day, it's a bit like Ercan airport. It doesn't exist in the minds of GCs, try googleing it. The reality is different. The negotiations will prove how much Efkaf has.

Denktash said that Efkaf Land does not exist and so I am prepared to take his word for it on this occasion and add to the fact that there is no agreement that stipulates the existence of Efkaf Land anywhere.

In my mind I could say that I own all the land in Paphos as well, but that still does not make it so....

If Efkaf lands can be taken by the British and given to the GCs, and it is acceptable, then there is nothing wrong with the Turks taking GC land and giving it to the TCs. That should also be acceptable. You can't change the rules as you go along.

These “Evkaf lands” (read fantasy lands) you mention is the product of the Ottoman violation of Cypriot territory starting from 1570, so your argument is a load of ILLEGAL crap.

I hate to say so but some of you in this forum have a compulsive habit to talk out of your ass. Of course there is private property in Cyprus registered under EVKA's name, just like there is also Church land! Even now -as we speak, there are properties in the RoC land registry, both north and south, that belong to Evkaf and are registered under its name. Denktash and Kutchuk (on behalf of Evkaf,) took money from the British in 1959, not to wave Evkaf's rights out of all of Evkaf properties, but only out of those properties that Evkaf claimed they used to belong to them during the Ottoman years and which the British had appropriated in the early 1900's. The deal did not affect any Evkaf properties already registered under its name in 1959 by the colonial land registry, and which subsequently became the LR of the RoC in 1060. Such properties remained in Evkaf's name, they still continue to this day to be in Evkaf's name, and they are calculated as part of the private property belonging to the members of the TC community, along with the rest of individual TC properties.

[YFred]

GCs can't have it both ways, on one side to wish for every one to have their land back and the other none if it belonged to Efkaf. Yeah right.

But there is absolutely no such thing as Efkaf Land registered under the 1960 Zurich Agreements or Cyprus Land Reigistry.....

Which is why we have two different land registry offices. As Efkaf and their lands exist to this day, it's a bit like Ercan airport. It doesn't exist in the minds of GCs, try googleing it. The reality is different. The negotiations will prove how much Efkaf has.

Denktash said that Efkaf Land does not exist and so I am prepared to take his word for it on this occasion and add to the fact that there is no agreement that stipulates the existence of Efkaf Land anywhere.

In my mind I could say that I own all the land in Paphos as well, but that still does not make it so....

If Efkaf lands can be taken by the British and given to the GCs, and it is acceptable, then there is nothing wrong with the Turks taking GC land and giving it to the TCs. That should also be acceptable. You can't change the rules as you go along.

These “Evkaf lands” (read fantasy lands) you mention is the product of the Ottoman violation of Cypriot territory starting from 1570, so your argument is a load of ILLEGAL crap.

What a good idea, why start at 1570? we'll take it to its ultimate, we all invaded at some stage, and as there must have been a time with nobody on the island, it doesn't belong to anybody, so as the old bus conductor says, all change please.

[Viewpoint]

YFred they think that because they have been here longer they have more rights, just like a 70yo has more rights over a 18yo, pathetic really.

[YFred]

YFred they think that because they have been here longer they have more rights, just like a 70yo has more rights over a 18yo, pathetic really.

Sad but true.