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only enimy of cyprus is turkey

[The Cypriot]

I was sure about your quality - now i understand why Hellenism can not be accomodatd in your head.

I don't think anyone is denying Greek/Hellenic genealogy if they have it,

Who cares? I mean honestly. Why rest on our ancient laurels – if indeed we had any? What has Cyprus got to offer the world now, in the 21st century? Apart from perpetual division, lousy Eurovision songs and Peter 'fcuking' Andre. Maybe too many for too long have been too caught up in being something we're not. And it's got us nowhere. Well I've had enough!

If I wanted to live my life vicariously through someone else's glories to improve my sense of self without effort I'd just support Manchester United and have done with it.

As it is, I prefer to be loyal to a place and meet life's struggle head on.... Up the Spurs! And up the Cypriots!

[The Cypriot]

For clarification purposes, I have identified some common traits which I think are strongly suggestive of someone holding views which are destructive to Cyprus and hopes for re-unification ...

1. Using nomenclature such as 'North Cyprus' or 'South Cyprus' (plus variations intent on creating a [b]myth of two countries).[/b]

2. Ignoring/preventing the right of administration of the RoC Government's laws and policies over the whole island.

3. Referring to chiefs of the TC leadership as "President" or "Prime Minister".

4. Describing EOKA as a 'terrorist' organisation.

Of course, there are a few more ....

Let's identify these destructive elements and eliminate them, towards gaining freedom, peace and unity ....
... I'm willing!

*** Expressions of negative emotions, justified by experience, are a consequence and not a cause of the present problems (which is Turkey) and would be eliminated when the right solution is implemented.

Using nomenclature such as 'Greek Cyprus' or 'Turkish Cyprus' and the 'Greeks' and 'Turks' of Cyprus is even worse.

Then TPap was the enemy number one. Freedom of expression?

For once I find myself finding merit in what you say. And I'm free to say so.

Don't know about public enemy no 1 though. There are 40,000 others I'd have put ahead of him.

[Oracle]

I was sure about your quality - now i understand why Hellenism can not be accomodatd in your head.

I don't think anyone is denying Greek/Hellenic genealogy if they have it,

Who cares? I mean honestly. Why rest on our ancient laurels – if indeed we had any? What has Cyprus got to offer the world now, in the 21st century? Apart from perpetual division, lousy Eurovision songs and Peter 'fcuking' Andre. Maybe too many for too long have been too caught up in being something we're not. And it's got us nowhere. Well I've had enough!

If I wanted to live my life vicariously through someone else's glories to improve my sense of self without effort I'd just support Manchester United and have done with it.

As it is, I prefer to be loyal to a place and meet life's struggle head on.... Up the Spurs! And up the Cypriots!

I'm not talking about laurels.

It should be the same desire to acknowledge your ancestral history whether your ancestors were Egyptian or Celtic or Aztecs. That's not why I want to identify with Hellenism ... simply because it (cursedly) was so significant, why should I apologise? It's just being true to oneself and not locking it up in a closet.

Politically it does not matter what your genealogical roots are and that's why we need these Nationalities linked to the state we reside in (for tax reasons, elections etc). But these political arrangements don't remove your anthropological roots.

My ancestors (everyone's ancestors) went through a heck of a lot to bring us to this point in time and I'm not turning my back on history just as a biologist wouldn't turn his back on a baboon!

[The Cypriot]

It should be the same desire to acknowledge your ancestral history whether your ancestors were Egyptian or Celtic or Aztecs. That's not why I want to identify with Hellenism ... simply because it (cursedly) was so significant, why should I apologise? It's just being true to oneself and not locking it up in a closet.

I respect your desire to identify with it and to consider it significant. As long as you respect mine not to, particularly. And no need to apologise. Whatever floats your boat. For me, I won't be tied down by ancient glories that I played no role in. I want modern glories for the Cypriot.

Politically it does not matter what your genealogical roots are and that's why we need these Nationalities linked to the state we reside in (for tax reasons, elections etc). But these political arrangements don't remove your anthropological roots.

The most important roots for me are my grandfather's gologassi roots! I feel the connection within the gochino-horko blood flowing through my veins.

My ancestors (everyone's ancestors) went through a heck of a lot to bring us to this point in time and I'm not turning my back on history just as a biologist wouldn't turn his back on a baboon!

I never knew my great-grandparents (or any ancestor before them) so I can't comment on what role they may have played, large or small, in getting me to this point.

And who said anything about turning their back on history? I have studied Cypriot history in some depth and have found it a truly enlightening experience.