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Re: Identifying the Enemies of Cyprus ...

Postby Oracle » Fri May 15, 2009 12:08 pm

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Oracle wrote:For clarification purposes, I have identified some common traits which I think are strongly suggestive of someone holding views which are destructive to Cyprus and hopes for re-unification ...

1. Using nomenclature such as 'North Cyprus' or 'South Cyprus' (plus variations intent on creating a [b]myth of two countries).[/b]

2. Ignoring/preventing the right of administration of the RoC Government's laws and policies over the whole island.

3. Referring to chiefs of the TC leadership as "President" or "Prime Minister".

4. Describing EOKA as a 'terrorist' organisation.

Of course, there are a few more ....

Let's identify these destructive elements and eliminate them, towards gaining freedom, peace and unity .... :)
... I'm willing!


*** Expressions of negative emotions, justified by experience, are a consequence and not a cause of the present problems (which is Turkey) and would be eliminated when the right solution is implemented.


Using nomenclature such as 'Greek Cyprus' or 'Turkish Cyprus' and the 'Greeks' and 'Turks' of Cyprus is even worse.


I completely agree. Those are useless terms. I only call myself Greek Cypriot because I happen to be, through birth. My mum is just Greek and my dad was just Cypriot. For years I couldn't understand why others called themselves Greek Cypriot when to me they were completely Cypriot.

So the fact that I am 100% Cypriot (politically) isn't represented by the label of 'Greek Cypriot' which for me is ethnocentric and loaded. What is required is to delineate people according to how they see themselves as Cypriots (politically) and shouldn't centre on genealogy. Rather, political identifiers akin to Tory or Whig could be substituted. Suggestions for Cyprus might be "Republican-Democrats" (where most GCs would probably subscribe) who are supporters of the RoC (and hence reunification), and the opposition would be, let's say,"Sectarians", I guess ....
So you can be an 'RD Cypriot' (e.g. you and I) or a 'Sec Cypriot' (e.g. insan and Bananiot).

I don't know. I really would like to put my finger on a few simple terms that define the two or three groups which people would fall into but which allow "GCs" or "TCs" to flow between without preconditions of attachments to Turkey or Greece.


The Greeks of Cyprus call themselves this way not because Cyprus is or ever was part of Greek state. (mainland)- They call themselves such a way on simple reason Cyprus is and always was a Greek Island in relation to its citizens. It was and it is an idepedent state which happen to have Greek citizens. So simple.


No Epsilon. Cyprus doesn't happen to have Greek citizens (other than the usual migrants) ... it has Cypriot citizens, (80% of which happen to be genealogically of Greek descent). That's neither here nor there in this day and age of increased social mobility.

What is important nationally, is how people identify themselves politically (the rest is private).
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Postby halil » Fri May 15, 2009 12:22 pm

Insan +halil= Bananiot + Micheal

are already unified !
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Re: Identifying the Enemies of Cyprus ...

Postby The Cypriot » Fri May 15, 2009 12:28 pm

Oracle wrote:I don't know. I really would like to put my finger on a few simple terms that define the two or three groups which people would fall into but which allow "GCs" or "TCs" to flow between without preconditions of attachments to Turkey or Greece.


How about this... "Reunification-Cypriots" and "Partitionist-Cypriots"
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Postby halil » Fri May 15, 2009 12:32 pm

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Re: Identifying the Enemies of Cyprus ...

Postby The Cypriot » Fri May 15, 2009 12:32 pm

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No Epsilon. Cyprus doesn't happen to have Greek citizens (other than the usual migrants) ... it has Cypriot citizens, (80% of which happen to be genealogically of Greek descent). That's neither here nor there in this day and age of increased social mobility.

What is important nationally, is how people identify themselves politically (the rest is private).



And what Epsilon chooses to do in the privacy of his own bedroom is entirely up to him, Oracle... Some people do like it Greek.
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Re: Identifying the Enemies of Cyprus ...

Postby EPSILON » Fri May 15, 2009 12:34 pm

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No Epsilon. Cyprus doesn't happen to have Greek citizens (other than the usual migrants) ... it has Cypriot citizens, (80% of which happen to be genealogically of Greek descent). That's neither here nor there in this day and age of increased social mobility.

What is important nationally, is how people identify themselves politically (the rest is private).



And what Epsilon chooses to do in the privacy of his own bedroom is entirely up to him, Oracle... Some people do like it Greek.


Not "some" my friend-we are speaking about the 90 per cent of free Cyprus. Your theory birthed only few years ago and its still very young and always under the danger of the small age.
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Postby halil » Fri May 15, 2009 12:39 pm

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

TURKISH CYPRIOTS AND GREEK CYPRIOTS WILL SOLVE THE CYPRUS PROBLEM`

Foreign Minister Huseyin Ozgurgun has said that a comprehensive and fair solution to the Cyprus problem would be found through negotiations between Turkish Cypriots and Greek Cypriots as partners.

The Foreign Minister’s words came in reaction to an earlier statement by the spokesman of the Greek Cypriot Administration Stefanus Stefanu who put the responsibility for the non-solution of the Cyprus problem on Turkey.


`A comprehensive and fair settlement in Cyprus will be found through negotiations between Turkish Cypriots and Greek Cypriots as partners` Ozgurgun said in a written statement, adding that the objective of the full-fledged negotiations being conducted by President Mehmet Ali Talat and the Greek Cypriot Leader Demetris Christofias was to achieve this objective.

He stressed that the Greek Cypriot Administration’s sole collocutor at the negotiation table was the Turkish Cypriot Side.

`The full support being provided to the process by Motherland Turkey as a guarantor power is known very well by all. Moreover, Turkey has shown its pro-solutionist attitude towards a settlement in Cyprus with the contributions it has been making to the negotiations and by encouraging the sides-concerned`, he said.

He noted that the Greek Cypriot Leadership could not avoid its responsibilities by claiming that Turkey holds the key to peace in Cyprus.

be carefull Cypriot !!!!! who is sitting front of u now ...... be carefull :!: :wink:
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Re: Identifying the Enemies of Cyprus ...

Postby The Cypriot » Fri May 15, 2009 12:41 pm

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And what Epsilon chooses to do in the privacy of his own bedroom is entirely up to him, Oracle... Some people do like it Greek.


Not "some" my friend-we are speaking about the 90 per cent of free Cyprus. Your theory birthed only few years ago and its still very young and always under the danger of the small age.


Epsilon and his friends like it Greek. This won't give birth to anything new but if it keeps them happy, by all means... in private, between consenting adults.
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Re: Identifying the Enemies of Cyprus ...

Postby EPSILON » Fri May 15, 2009 1:08 pm

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EPSILON wrote:
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And what Epsilon chooses to do in the privacy of his own bedroom is entirely up to him, Oracle... Some people do like it Greek.


Not "some" my friend-we are speaking about the 90 per cent of free Cyprus. Your theory birthed only few years ago and its still very young and always under the danger of the small age.


Epsilon and his friends like it Greek. This won't give birth to anything new but if it keeps them happy, by all means... in private, between consenting adults.


Cry baby cry...
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Re: Identifying the Enemies of Cyprus ...

Postby The Cypriot » Fri May 15, 2009 1:11 pm

EPSILON wrote:
The Cypriot wrote:Epsilon and his friends like it Greek. This won't give birth to anything new but if it keeps them happy, by all means... in private, between consenting adults.


Cry baby cry...


You certainly will without....

KYpros jelly...


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