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[halil]

Speaking in a special interview to BRT, the British Orams couple, who have been waging a 5 year legal battle over a property they bought in Lapta, said that they were determined to fight on to the very end.

Commenting on their trial at the Greek Cypriot court, Mrs Linda Orams said that most of the questions directed to her at the witness stand during the hearings were politically oriented and had no relevance to the case.

“Everything, all the hearings were conducted in the Greek language. The Greek Cypriot lawyer Kandunas kept on asking me how I had entered the island. When I told him through Ercan Airport, he insisted that the TRNC or Ercan Airport did not exist. And I said to myself what in the world does this have to do with our case” she complained.

The couple also said that it was outrageous that all the proceedings, including the court summons were in Greek.

“I frankly found it daft that everything was in Greek. The only time I was given a translator was when I took the stand. It didn’t make any sense because everyone in the court room spoke fluent English” she added.

Explaining that they were guests in North Cyprus and therefore were not part of the Cyprus Problem, David Orams however said it was a shame if their case had a negative impact on the ongoing negotiations process.

“We think, and I believe that the two leaders in Cyprus have also agreed, that the property dispute will be solved as part of the ongoing comprehensive negotiations and not through court cases. We also hope that the talks will yield positive results.”

Expressing their view that the Cyprus Problem has been a shared tragedy for both peoples on the island, the Orams couple said that it was not right to have two separate justices on the island.

“There are two sides in Cyprus, both of which need to be treated the same way. We believe that this is a political problem and that it would be a tragedy for both peoples if our case negatively impacts the talks” David Orams said.

The couple reminded that the two leaders had changed their agenda at the talks and had met to discuss the ECJ’s judgment on their case.

“It doesn’t get any more political when two Presidents meet to discuss an issue” Mrs. Orams said.

Mr. Orams also warned that dragging people through such court cases will not solve the Cyprus Problem or the property dispute.

Asked whether they were receiving any support from the TRNC government, the couple said that they had received great support and legal advice from the government.

“We are in contact with the TRNC government through our lawyer, Mr. Gunes Mentes”, said Mr. Orams, adding that the authorities were following the developments keenly.

Mrs. Orams for her part expressed her disappointed over the low profile, the government in the UK, has chosen to take over the case.

Pointing out that Turkish Cypriots had deserved to take their place within the EU, especially after overwhelmingly supporting the UN-sponsored Annan Plan in 2004, the couple complained that the Greek Cypriot Administration was using its membership for its own advantage and interests.

Asked what they planned to do if they lost the case at the British High Court of Appeal, David Orams said that it was too early to jump to any conclusions and that there were still many legal arguments to be made.

“However we may have to make this place our home in the event that we lose the court case. If we do lose we are faced with the question of what to do next. We shall ask the British High Court, because demolishing a house here needs the permission of the government. There are laws and regulations in this country. Again if we fail to do so the court in London could charge us with contempt of court” he replied.

[RichardB]

But no apology for stealing land only self sympathy from pinky and perky

[denizaksulu]

But no apology for stealing land only self sympathy from pinky and perky

The Orams only crime is being gullible. The real criminals are those that are selling off Greek Cypriot property. IMHO.

[RichardB]

But no apology for stealing land only self sympathy from pinky and perky

The Orams only crime is being gullible. The real criminals are those that are selling off Greek Cypriot property. IMHO.

Gullible Deniz!!! I'm not so sure, there have been enough warnings for many years now re purchasing property in the occupied areas.

IMHO they are noe Playing the gullible party but as you say the land should not have been able to be sold in the first place

[bill cobbett]

Jail the LandStealers and the CarStealers.

[RichardB]

[quote="bill cobbett"]Jail the LandStealers and the CarStealers.[/quote]

But Bill I've only borrowed Z4s beemer for the night he'll get it back tommorrow

[insan]

But no apology for stealing land only self sympathy from pinky and perky

The Orams only crime is being gullible. The real criminals are those that are selling off Greek Cypriot property. IMHO.

The responsibles r TRNC authorities. TRNC authorities granted the required permissions for both sale of the GC property and construction on it. Orams should pass the ball to responsible TRNC authorities.

In this case, if allegations r true, Orams have only one guilt. It is said that the land owner visited Orams Villa, one day and told Mrs. Orams "This is my land." Mrs. Orams replied: "That was many years ago."

Not a nice situation really...

[Oracle]

“Everything, all the hearings were conducted in the Greek language.

The Greek Cypriot lawyer Kandunas kept on asking me how I had entered the island. When I told him through Ercan Airport, he insisted that the TRNC or Ercan Airport did not exist.

The couple also said that it was outrageous that all the proceedings, including the court summons were in Greek.

“I frankly found it daft that everything was in Greek.

It didn’t make any sense because everyone in the court room spoke fluent English” she added.

Don't you feel daft when everyone else is bilingual and you are the only thicko?

David Orams however said it was a shame if their case had a negative impact on the ongoing negotiations process.

It doesn't ...

http://www.theparliament.com/latestnews ... ts-ruling/

the Orams couple said that it was not right to have two separate justices on the island.

There is only one justice ... and they own you!

We believe that this is a political problem and that it would be a tragedy for both peoples if our case negatively impacts the talks” David Orams said.

I told you already, it doesn't!

http://www.theparliament.com/latestnews ... ts-ruling/

“It doesn’t get any more political when two Presidents meet to discuss an issue” Mrs. Orams said.

You still don't get it do you? There's only one President!

Mrs. Orams for her part expressed her disappointed over the low profile, the government in the UK, has chosen to take over the case.

“However we may have to make this place our home in the event that we lose the court case.

I think you may find it hard to leave through UK passport controls ...

[miltiades]

Jail the LandStealers and the CarStealers.[/quote]

But Bill I've only borrowed Z4s beemer for the night he'll get it back tommorrow

Ask INSAN if you can borrow her ..tits !

[The Cypriot]

But no apology for stealing land only self sympathy from pinky and perky

The Orams only crime is being gullible. The real criminals are those that are selling off Greek Cypriot property. IMHO.

Deniz. You're far too lenient. Being gullible isn't a crime. Buying stolen property is a crime. And ignorance of the law is not a defence.

The stolen property was cheap. They were greedy.

They're guilty of being greedy. But take a look at them. There's a huge body of evidence: