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[Paphitis]

I would not be surprised if the Orams received a fake TC citizenship in the "trnc", to claim such a right, that the court proceedings should have been in Turkish.!

Is there such a thing as a fake ID of a fake state?

Wow… quit messing with my mind Kikapu!

The fact that it is not recognised is one thing, the fact that it existed for 35 years and will exist for another 35 is beyond doubt.

However, the funniest part was the RoC court not accepting that the Orams landed in Ercan because it doesn't exist. Yeah right!

Underestimating and ignoring international law has been the biggest weakness of the Turkish Cypriots who have seemingly placed all their eggs in Turkey’s military basket…

When a court says that something “doesn’t exist” it speaks from a legal standpoint and you’ll find that in the real world that’s the only standpoint that matters.

Yep, carry on with that thinking and its two independent states, and it will not be long now!
There was me thinking that the purpose of a justice system was to prove the guilt or innocence of a person by establishing the truth of the circumstances, silly me.

You can put a sign in your back yard if you want and call it “Y-Fronts-Land” and declare it to be a sovereign state with a loudspeaker, but that doesn’t necessarily mean that courts will be playing along with you should an issue arise pertaining to your property, such as you beating the crap out of the postman who crossed without a visa!

Well actually, an Australian farmer did just that and has declared himself The Principality of Hutt River...

The Principality ceded from Australia in 1970 and now has its own currency, stamps, tourism industry and defence force.....

http://www.principality-hutt-river.com/

http://www.principality-hutt-river.com/ ... etoric.htm

The Principality of Hutt River has more legitimacy than the "trnc"

Only if you consider Australia as legitimate. Considering they descended from bunch of criminals?

Australian Criminals did not invade Cyprus.

Turkish Criminals did....

[YFred]

I would not be surprised if the Orams received a fake TC citizenship in the "trnc", to claim such a right, that the court proceedings should have been in Turkish.!

Is there such a thing as a fake ID of a fake state?

Wow… quit messing with my mind Kikapu!

The fact that it is not recognised is one thing, the fact that it existed for 35 years and will exist for another 35 is beyond doubt.

However, the funniest part was the RoC court not accepting that the Orams landed in Ercan because it doesn't exist. Yeah right!

Underestimating and ignoring international law has been the biggest weakness of the Turkish Cypriots who have seemingly placed all their eggs in Turkey’s military basket…

When a court says that something “doesn’t exist” it speaks from a legal standpoint and you’ll find that in the real world that’s the only standpoint that matters.

Yep, carry on with that thinking and its two independent states, and it will not be long now!
There was me thinking that the purpose of a justice system was to prove the guilt or innocence of a person by establishing the truth of the circumstances, silly me.

You can put a sign in your back yard if you want and call it “Y-Fronts-Land” and declare it to be a sovereign state with a loudspeaker, but that doesn’t necessarily mean that courts will be playing along with you should an issue arise pertaining to your property, such as you beating the crap out of the postman who crossed without a visa!

Well actually, an Australian farmer did just that and has declared himself The Principality of Hutt River...

The Principality ceded from Australia in 1970 and now has its own currency, stamps, tourism industry and defence force.....

http://www.principality-hutt-river.com/

http://www.principality-hutt-river.com/ ... etoric.htm

The Principality of Hutt River has more legitimacy than the "trnc"

Only if you consider Australia as legitimate. Considering they descended from bunch of criminals?

Australian Criminals did not invade Cyprus.

Turkish Criminals did....

You mean Turkish rescuers and only after a few weeks of the Greek Criminals. Please get your history right.

[Viewpoint]

What has changed since the clarification?

[insan]

I would not be surprised if the Orams received a fake TC citizenship in the "trnc", to claim such a right, that the court proceedings should have been in Turkish.!

Is there such a thing as a fake ID of a fake state?

Wow… quit messing with my mind Kikapu!

The fact that it is not recognised is one thing, the fact that it existed for 35 years and will exist for another 35 is beyond doubt.

However, the funniest part was the RoC court not accepting that the Orams landed in Ercan because it doesn't exist. Yeah right!

Underestimating and ignoring international law has been the biggest weakness of the Turkish Cypriots who have seemingly placed all their eggs in Turkey’s military basket…

When a court says that something “doesn’t exist” it speaks from a legal standpoint and you’ll find that in the real world that’s the only standpoint that matters.

TCs neither underestimate or ignore international law nor solely relied on Turkish army. They believed property issue would be solved in frame of a comprehensive solution. Taking into account our problematic common past and the crystal clear GC political stance towards bi-zonality; it was obvious that solving the property issue in frame of a comprehensive settlement was almost impossible.

The mistake of TC leadership regarding the property issue is; not proposing and internationalizing an impartial, bi-communal properties restitution/exchange/compensation board.

In the past 35 years the circumstances of bi-zonality for a united Cyprus could have been achieved. However it is a well known fact that GC leadership has always been against bi-zonality no matter how many times they stated they wish a solution in frame of the UN parameters.