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Postby Z4 » Fri May 15, 2009 11:39 am

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bill cobbett wrote:Jail the LandStealers and the CarStealers.[/quote]

But Bill I've only borrowed Z4s beemer for the night he'll get it back tommorrow :lol:


:lol: You can borrow it for the weekend Rich....that's fine. Just bring it back with a full tank please :wink:

Re: The above, I think the Orams are now starting to get it into their thick heads that Ercan and TRNC don't really exist....about bloody time!

Anyone who has purchased property/land in the North knows full well what they are getting into. The developers/agents should also be locked up and prosecuted, not just the dimwits who buy from them.

When Pinky and Perky say "they will fight to the end" what can they do, where can they go and what other avenue can they try? They are now battling a lost course.

Rich, mind the paintwork please
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Postby denizaksulu » Fri May 15, 2009 11:47 am

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RichardB wrote:But no apology for stealing land only self sympathy from pinky and perky :evil:



The Orams only crime is being gullible. The real criminals are those that are selling off Greek Cypriot property. IMHO.


If they did not know that they were acting out of law -yes maybe you are right.-But noone can consider that a British in Cyprus does not know that the north is an inlegal entity.Despite what T/cs or their leadrship saying (protecting their interest) does not change the fact that there is not an official /legally recognized authority in this part of the Island.
If you involve on trade with an inlegal entity and you know this in advance then you are kildy under any circumstances/



It does look like they did 'recognise' the Northern administration along with Turkey, therefore imagining that things were legal. Now they know the truth.
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Postby YFred » Fri May 15, 2009 12:17 pm

Get Real! wrote:I heard rumors, from a childhood lawyer friend, that the RoC government has employed the services of Turkish Cypriots, some of which are allegedly working in the “TRNC” equivalent of the land & admin department and other relevant areas, who are compiling lists of details of all foreigners who purchased GC property for the RoC!

For the right price, it seems the TCs are happy to dob in a Brit crim!

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So two wrongs do make a right after all. So we were right all along :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby YFred » Fri May 15, 2009 12:22 pm

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Get Real! wrote:I heard rumors, from a childhood lawyer friend, that the RoC government has employed the services of Turkish Cypriots, some of which are allegedly working in the “TRNC” equivalent of the land & admin department and other relevant areas, who are compiling lists of details of all foreigners who purchased GC property for the RoC!

For the right price, it seems the TCs are happy to dob in a Brit crim!

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The case against the Orams was not just an innocent idea by a GC taking them to court to recover some money. Had that been the case, the "trnc" via the Orams could have settled the matter with Mr.A with a “out of court” settlement. NO, no, no, this was a very orchestrated attempt to get a landmark ruling within the EU which has been achieved, and all a while this case was going for the last 5 years, information had to have been collected on everyone in the north holding onto GC properties, including those who had been given "exchanged land". This was one of the benefits of opening the crossings after 30 years for this case to be successful, in that, all legal owners of such properties were able to go to the north and see who in fact were living on their properties. I'm in the belief, that the RoC has a complete dossier on all those involved in GC properties in the north.

It is very possible to get inside information even from an "Honest Society" if the price is right, which can be expensive at times, but getting inside information from a "Corrupted Society" is very easy and very cheap in comparison. Therefore GR, I don't think what you have stated is a "rumour" but a fact that has already happened.!

That does not surprise us one bit. We don't even come second in a two horse race with the RoC when it comes to corruption.
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Postby Kikapu » Fri May 15, 2009 1:38 pm

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Postby humanist » Fri May 15, 2009 1:43 pm

OOOOHhhhhhhhh poor Mrs oram ey????? not
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Postby Kikapu » Fri May 15, 2009 1:50 pm

YFred wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Get Real! wrote:I heard rumors, from a childhood lawyer friend, that the RoC government has employed the services of Turkish Cypriots, some of which are allegedly working in the “TRNC” equivalent of the land & admin department and other relevant areas, who are compiling lists of details of all foreigners who purchased GC property for the RoC!

For the right price, it seems the TCs are happy to dob in a Brit crim!

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The case against the Orams was not just an innocent idea by a GC taking them to court to recover some money. Had that been the case, the "trnc" via the Orams could have settled the matter with Mr.A with a “out of court” settlement. NO, no, no, this was a very orchestrated attempt to get a landmark ruling within the EU which has been achieved, and all a while this case was going for the last 5 years, information had to have been collected on everyone in the north holding onto GC properties, including those who had been given "exchanged land". This was one of the benefits of opening the crossings after 30 years for this case to be successful, in that, all legal owners of such properties were able to go to the north and see who in fact were living on their properties. I'm in the belief, that the RoC has a complete dossier on all those involved in GC properties in the north.

It is very possible to get inside information even from an "Honest Society" if the price is right, which can be expensive at times, but getting inside information from a "Corrupted Society" is very easy and very cheap in comparison. Therefore GR, I don't think what you have stated is a "rumour" but a fact that has already happened.!

That does not surprise us one bit. We don't even come second in a two horse race with the RoC when it comes to corruption.


I don't think that is considered to be a corruption in protecting ones interest against morally corrupted individuals who are trying to steal others property. More like the RoC played as World Masters Chess Champions with the "trnc" and came away with a
Check-Mate and Game result at the end of it. I would hardly call that a "corruption".!

May I ask you why you are so protective of those who engaged in dealing with stolen GC properties. Should you not be condemning such criminal acts.? Do you want to tell us how much stolen GC property you have in your possession, if any, because you are acting like a sore loser since the ECJ ruling and not as cocky as you were before the ECJ ruling. There has been a definite a transformation has taken with you along with others. Have you all not been sleeping too well in the last 2 weeks or what.? Perhaps it is time for you all to go and confess your Sins of Haram to someone to bring much needed salvation for your souls.!
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Postby anna-sh » Fri May 15, 2009 2:01 pm

Get Real! wrote:I heard rumors, from a childhood lawyer friend, that the RoC government has employed the services of Turkish Cypriots, some of which are allegedly working in the “TRNC” equivalent of the land & admin department and other relevant areas, who are compiling lists of details of all foreigners who purchased GC property for the RoC!

For the right price, it seems the TCs are happy to dob in a Brit crim!

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Postby AWE » Fri May 15, 2009 3:12 pm

Is Turkish an official language of the RoC?
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Postby denizaksulu » Fri May 15, 2009 3:12 pm

Kikapu wrote:
YFred wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Get Real! wrote:I heard rumors, from a childhood lawyer friend, that the RoC government has employed the services of Turkish Cypriots, some of which are allegedly working in the “TRNC” equivalent of the land & admin department and other relevant areas, who are compiling lists of details of all foreigners who purchased GC property for the RoC!

For the right price, it seems the TCs are happy to dob in a Brit crim!

Image


The case against the Orams was not just an innocent idea by a GC taking them to court to recover some money. Had that been the case, the "trnc" via the Orams could have settled the matter with Mr.A with a “out of court” settlement. NO, no, no, this was a very orchestrated attempt to get a landmark ruling within the EU which has been achieved, and all a while this case was going for the last 5 years, information had to have been collected on everyone in the north holding onto GC properties, including those who had been given "exchanged land". This was one of the benefits of opening the crossings after 30 years for this case to be successful, in that, all legal owners of such properties were able to go to the north and see who in fact were living on their properties. I'm in the belief, that the RoC has a complete dossier on all those involved in GC properties in the north.

It is very possible to get inside information even from an "Honest Society" if the price is right, which can be expensive at times, but getting inside information from a "Corrupted Society" is very easy and very cheap in comparison. Therefore GR, I don't think what you have stated is a "rumour" but a fact that has already happened.!

That does not surprise us one bit. We don't even come second in a two horse race with the RoC when it comes to corruption.


I don't think that is considered to be a corruption in protecting ones interest against morally corrupted individuals who are trying to steal others property. More like the RoC played as World Masters Chess Champions with the "trnc" and came away with a
Check-Mate and Game result at the end of it. I would hardly call that a "corruption".!

May I ask you why you are so protective of those who engaged in dealing with stolen GC properties. Should you not be condemning such criminal acts.? Do you want to tell us how much stolen GC property you have in your possession, if any, because you are acting like a sore loser since the ECJ ruling and not as cocky as you were before the ECJ ruling. There has been a definite a transformation has taken with you along with others. Have you all not been sleeping too well in the last 2 weeks or what.? Perhaps it is time for you all to go and confess your Sins of Haram to someone to bring much needed salvation for your souls.!


Kiks, I noted your first and hope the last mistake you have made.

Dont mention the sins of 'Haram'. (only if you must :lol: )

The Koran/Hadith says it is 'lawful' to steal from an unbeliever. :lol: True. That is what it says.
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