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[Oracle]

So, according to nonsense of Orams' Court verdict; seller of the "stolen" land and the authorities who gave permission to the sale of the "stolen" land didn't commit any criminal acts but just the buyer of the "stolen" land, Orams committed a criminal act? Total galimatias.

All are guilty ... no one has said otherwise.

So why there's no judgements in Oram's Court verdict regarding accessory before the fact?

One step at a time insan ... you sound a little worried. Have you done something you shouldn't have done?

The Orams will soon be "squealing" the names of all those involved ....

[insan]

So, according to nonsense of Orams' Court verdict; seller of the "stolen" land and the authorities who gave permission to the sale of the "stolen" land didn't commit any criminal acts but just the buyer of the "stolen" land, Orams committed a criminal act? Total galimatias.

All are guilty ... no one has said otherwise.

So why there's no judgements in Oram's Court verdict regarding accessory before the fact?

One step at a time insan ... you sound a little worried. Have you done something you shouldn't have done?

The Orams will soon be "squealing" the names of all those involved ....

Actually I sounded very impatient but as usual u couldn't comprehend what I felt. I'm impatiently waiting Orams to squel the names of all those involved. Everything is going too slow with too much galimatias around regarding the Oram's case and Cyprus impasse. An ultra-accellerator is urgently needed.

[Sotos]

We shall ask the British High Court, because demolishing a house here needs the permission of the government. There are laws and regulations in this country.

There is only one country one government and one set of laws. Those of RoC! Lets see if she will continue to play stupid and pretend that she does not understand this after they will lose their home in the UK.

How can the GCs south make them demolish their villa? they have noway of physically enforcing the demolishing.

We have many ways of enforcing it. The government can not stop a criminal from committing a crime but it can punish the criminal. So this is what will happen with the Orams. And if they don't do what the court ordered then the case will go again to the court and this time it will be a jail sentence for them for refusing to obey court orders. Then we will issue a warrant via Interpol and the Orams will be arrested and extradited to RoC the first time the dare to go to any EU country. Lets see if they have the balls to fight this war to the end. They think that losing money is the worst thing that can happen to them? They are very wrong!

[RichardB]

We shall ask the British High Court, because demolishing a house here needs the permission of the government. There are laws and regulations in this country.

There is only one country one government and one set of laws. Those of RoC! Lets see if she will continue to play stupid and pretend that she does not understand this after they will lose their home in the UK.

How can the GCs south make them demolish their villa? they have noway of physically enforcing the demolishing.

We have many ways of enforcing it. The government can not stop a criminal from committing a crime but it can punish the criminal. So this is what will happen with the Orams. And if they don't do what the court ordered then the case will go again to the court and this time it will be a jail sentence for them for refusing to obey court orders. Then we will issue a warrant via Interpol and the Orams will be arrested and extradited to RoC the first time the dare to go to any EU country. Lets see if they have the balls to fight this war to the end. They think that losing money is the worst thing that can happen to them? They are very wrong!

Bravo Sotos

[Kikapu]

If the Orams are an example of the kinds of idiots the "trnc" enticed to move to the north and were made stolen GC properties available for them, just so to make the property issues complex to solve in the future, just to make partition that much easier, then the "trnc" deserves what it gets with the Orams ECJ ruling. The "trnc" were complicit with the Orams and all those who bought stolen properties, including large numbers of TC's from the UK. The "trnc" tried to be too cleaver for their own good by hatching such a scheme, where they thought it was going to be a WIN-WIN situation for them. Well, so much for those amateurish plans to run a "country"!

To get back to the morally corrupted Orams for a minute, these two low lives complain to the fact, that their hearing was conducted in GREEK, even though many spoke English in the court room, therefore they did are insinuating of not getting a fair trial but forgets the fact, that GREEK is an official language in Cyprus and then they turn around and says that the whole thing was political when it should not have been, but then she goes on and makes a bunch of political comments, even though they were talking from their butts when it came to facts, if one was able to differentiate it from their faces that is. In any case, they are now enjoying their 15 minutes of celebrity status in the north. No doubt they are treated as Royals by the locals. Little do they know, that the Orams will now become the "Ball & Chain" around the "trnc" political neck.!

[Get Real!]

I heard rumors, from a childhood lawyer friend, that the RoC government has employed the services of Turkish Cypriots, some of which are allegedly working in the “TRNC” equivalent of the land & admin department and other relevant areas, who are compiling lists of details of all foreigners who purchased GC property for the RoC!

For the right price, it seems the TCs are happy to dob in a Brit crim!

[RichardB]

I heard rumors, from a childhood lawyer friend, that the RoC government has employed the services of Turkish Cypriots, some of which are allegedly working in the “TRNC” equivalent of the land & admin department and other relevant areas, who are compiling lists of details of all foreigners who purchased GC property for the RoC!

For the right price, it seems the TCs are happy to dob in a Brit crim!

Young man

You owe me at least 2 keo for setting these rumours to right

These are not rumours but fact!!!

I (as you know ) could go across the line!!?? is that the right word??

and give you details in the morning

[Get Real!]

I heard rumors, from a childhood lawyer friend, that the RoC government has employed the services of Turkish Cypriots, some of which are allegedly working in the “TRNC” equivalent of the land & admin department and other relevant areas, who are compiling lists of details of all foreigners who purchased GC property for the RoC!

For the right price, it seems the TCs are happy to dob in a Brit crim!

Young man

You owe me at least 2 keo for setting these rumours to right

These are not rumours but fact!!!

I (as you know ) could go across the line!!?? is that the right word??

and give you details in the morning

But these guys I heard about are employed in the right places there…

Imagine an Excel spreadsheet with the RoC Lot numbers, the personal details of the foreigner who purchased it and their overseas address!

[Kikapu]

I heard rumors, from a childhood lawyer friend, that the RoC government has employed the services of Turkish Cypriots, some of which are allegedly working in the “TRNC” equivalent of the land & admin department and other relevant areas, who are compiling lists of details of all foreigners who purchased GC property for the RoC!

For the right price, it seems the TCs are happy to dob in a Brit crim!

The case against the Orams was not just an innocent idea by a GC taking them to court to recover some money. Had that been the case, the "trnc" via the Orams could have settled the matter with Mr.A with a “out of court” settlement. NO, no, no, this was a very orchestrated attempt to get a landmark ruling within the EU which has been achieved, and all a while this case was going for the last 5 years, information had to have been collected on everyone in the north holding onto GC properties, including those who had been given "exchanged land". This was one of the benefits of opening the crossings after 30 years for this case to be successful, in that, all legal owners of such properties were able to go to the north and see who in fact were living on their properties. I'm in the belief, that the RoC has a complete dossier on all those involved in GC properties in the north.

It is very possible to get inside information even from an "Honest Society" if the price is right, which can be expensive at times, but getting inside information from a "Corrupted Society" is very easy and very cheap in comparison. Therefore GR, I don't think what you have stated is a "rumour" but a fact that has already happened.!

[EPSILON]

But no apology for stealing land only self sympathy from pinky and perky

The Orams only crime is being gullible. The real criminals are those that are selling off Greek Cypriot property. IMHO.

If they did not know that they were acting out of law -yes maybe you are right.-But noone can consider that a British in Cyprus does not know that the north is an inlegal entity.Despite what T/cs or their leadrship saying (protecting their interest) does not change the fact that there is not an official /legally recognized authority in this part of the Island.
If you involve on trade with an inlegal entity and you know this in advance then you are kildy under any circumstances/