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[The Cypriot]

SIMITIS' TURCOPHOBIA
In order to counteract the overwhelming opposition of Greek public opinion to the NATO operation against Yugoslavia, Greek Prime Minister Simitis issued anti-Turkish statements emphasizing alleged Turkish aggression in the Aegean. Simitis said, "Now that Turks have invaded a large portion of Cyprus, we have to maintain our full cooperation with NATO in order to overcome the peril to ourselves." Reiterating the Greek stance against any military operation on behalf of political and diplomatic negotiations, however, Simitis stated for the first time that the Greek government "condemn the ethnic `liquidation' by Serbs in Kosovo."

As long as some self-interest groups or individuals feed Turcophobia in favour of their interests;

Feed it? This means it's already there. Why does it exists? And what is Turkey doing to starve it?

it's too difficult for Turks to eradicate Turcophobia. Either the ordinary people should be very knowledged and aware of what's really going on or Turks should exert a great deal to at least neutralize the attempts of those who exploit the historic rooted Turcophobia with allegations, exagerrations and ill-intentions.

That's right. Turkey should neutralise the attempts of people who exploit Turcophobia. Why doesn't it?

Turcophobia is hardly just historically rooted. Turkey's behaviour, right now, causes people to fear it. If someone fears you and you want them to stop, you go on a charm offensive. You make gestures.... like reduce troop numbers, or clean up mountains, or let the inhabitants of Famagusta go home.

I hope ur Cypriot part is aware of this and ur human part, if there is any;

I'm 100% Cypriot and 100% human... so your attempt to turn what I said around is hollow.

is capable to understand how difficult for Turks to eradicate Turcophobia under such circumstances.

What has Turkey done to try? Honestly. What has it done in relation to Cyprus to eradicate the fears people have of her?

And why are you such an apologist for Turkey? I'm not an apologist for Greece or Britain or any other country. I'm not even an apologist for Cyprus. When it does things I don't agree with I say so. And if people were Cypro-phobic it would make me uncomfortable. I'd want to calm them down because I know it would be in Cyprus's interests.

Why can't you do the same for Turkey? Or are you a Turcophobe too? I quite understand if you are, living as you do under their jack-boot.

[insan]

SIMITIS' TURCOPHOBIA
In order to counteract the overwhelming opposition of Greek public opinion to the NATO operation against Yugoslavia, Greek Prime Minister Simitis issued anti-Turkish statements emphasizing alleged Turkish aggression in the Aegean. Simitis said, "Now that Turks have invaded a large portion of Cyprus, we have to maintain our full cooperation with NATO in order to overcome the peril to ourselves." Reiterating the Greek stance against any military operation on behalf of political and diplomatic negotiations, however, Simitis stated for the first time that the Greek government "condemn the ethnic `liquidation' by Serbs in Kosovo."

As long as some self-interest groups or individuals feed Turcophobia in favour of their interests;

it's too difficult for Turks to eradicate Turcophobia. Either the ordinary people should be very knowledged and aware of what's really going on or Turks should exert a great deal to at least neutralize the attempts of those who exploit the historic rooted Turcophobia with allegations, exagerrations and ill-intentions.

Why can't you do the same for Turkey? Or are you a Turcophobe too? I quite understand if you are, living as you do under their jack-boot.

Sorry but ur mentality urges me to stop discussing this issue with u... Have u ever been in TRNC? Have u got any TC friend? Have u ever tried spending a few days with ur TC friends in TRNC? If no, u r just a distance watcher with no first hand experience and knowledge.

U can consider urself 100% whatever u wish but how others consider u? Just like how u consider TCs "under their jack-boot"?

[The Cypriot]

Sorry but ur mentality urges me to stop discussing this issue with u... Have u ever been in TRNC?

No. I have been to the part of Cyprus controlled by Turkey's army, twice.

Have u got any TC friend?

No. I have friends who are Cypriot, of Muslim extraction.

Have u ever tried spending a few days with ur TC friends in TRNC?

No thanks.

If no, u r just a distance watcher with no first hand experience and knowledge.

Don't patronise me, insan. The north of Cyprus is controlled by Turkey's military. There are 40,000 troops stationed there.

U can consider urself 100% whatever u wish but how others consider u?

If you recognise the TRNC then you can't recognise a 100% Cypriot. By definition.

Just like how u consider TCs "under their jack-boot"?

Are you for real? Even your flag's a reverse of their flag. If you wanted to remove it from the mountain, would they let you?

[insan]

Are you for real? Even your flag's a reverse of their flag. If you wanted to remove it from the mountain, would they let you?

Why shall we want to remove TRNC flag before a solution found? Why? There's no reason to remove it from there. For more than 50 years and still, Greek-GC duo have been exerting to make TC community an ineffective muslim minority on Cyprus and any TC who is aware of this will ask the removal of that flag? Why shall we ask such a nonsense under such circumstances? Total galimatias.

[The Cypriot]

Why shall we want to remove TRNC flag before a solution found? Why?

To help reduce Turkophobia. To aid a solution. Do you read what I post?
It's like asking, why would I want to wrap up warm before my cold gets better? Why?

There's no reason to remove it from there. For more than 50 years and still, Greek-GC duo have been exerting to make TC community an ineffective muslim minority on Cyprus and any TC who is aware of this will ask the removal of that flag?

Where else in the world have people defaced a whole mountain? Why aren't you embarrassed?

Why shall we ask such a nonsense under such circumstances? Total galimatias.

Cleaning up a mountain, to let the whole world know Turcophobia is a silly phobia, is nonsense?

[insan]

Why shall we want to remove TRNC flag before a solution found? Why?

To help reduce Turkophobia. To aid a solution. Do you read what I post?
It's like asking, why would I want to wrap up warm before my cold gets better? Why?

There's no reason to remove it from there. For more than 50 years and still, Greek-GC duo have been exerting to make TC community an ineffective muslim minority on Cyprus and any TC who is aware of this will ask the removal of that flag?

Where else in the world have people defaced a whole mountain? Why aren't you embarrassed?

Why shall we ask such a nonsense under such circumstances? Total galimatias.

Cleaning up a mountain, to let the whole world Turcophobia is a silly phobia, is nonsense?

I'm not sure in which year that flag was put there but what I'm sure is both before that flag was put there and afterwards; the political stance of Greek-GC duo has been same towards TC community. So, I can comfortably believe that Turcophobia of Greek-GC duo has nothing to do with that flag, neither with the Turkish troops stationed in North.

[The Cypriot]

So, I can comfortably believe that Turcophobia of Greek-GC duo has nothing to do with that flag, neither with the Turkish troops stationed in North.

Stop lumping Greeks with Cypriots - just 'cos your lot are golon je vajin with Turkey.

I can't speak for Greeks but, what if I was to tell you that, for Cypriots, your belief was wrong - on both counts?

[DT.]

I'm serious.

Seriously deluded ... or just stupid insan?

Still, this is the right thread to pour out all those "visions" ...

Beware Turks Having Visions

U r very short-sighted Oracle. U r incapable to envisage such unions. U need to study "regionalism" in a globalized world. First of all, u need to get rid of ur Turcho-phobia and prejudice towards Turks in order to digest such a regional union in Eastern Mediterennean...

Just cause Erdogab abd Gul would sell their head scarf wearing mothers for the Aegean doesn't mean the Greeks are stupid enough to give it to them. Whats the plan? 978,378,489 tonnes of magic mushrooms in the Greek water supply?

[insan]

So, I can comfortably believe that Turcophobia of Greek-GC duo has nothing to do with that flag, neither with the Turkish troops stationed in North.

Stop lumping Greeks with Cypriots - just 'cos your lot are golon je vajin with Turkey.
I cant speak for Greeks but, what if I was to tell you that, for Cypriots, your belief was wrong - on both counts?

Greek-GC duo refers the ruling class of Greeks and GCs. Just a few weeks ago they reaffirmed their centuries lasted common struggle for common national interests. Stop ignoring the facts and stop talking on behalf of those "Cypriots" too.

[The Cypriot]

So, I can comfortably believe that Turcophobia of Greek-GC duo has nothing to do with that flag, neither with the Turkish troops stationed in North.

Stop lumping Greeks with Cypriots - just 'cos your lot are golon je vajin with Turkey.
I cant speak for Greeks but, what if I was to tell you that, for Cypriots, your belief was wrong - on both counts?

Greek-GC duo refers the ruling class of Greeks and GCs.

And golon je vrajin refers to the "ruling arse" of Turks - the ruling of your arse!

And whoever rules Greece does not rule whoever rules Cyprus.

Just a few weeks ago they reaffirmed their centuries lasted common struggle

A struggle common also with Armenians, Pontians, Kurds... a struggle against a certain phobia they all share.

for common national interests. Stop ignoring the facts and stop talking on behalf of those "Cypriots" too.

I said "what if"? And why can't someone speak on behalf of "The Cypriot"? Does anyone else? Why should I let a T/TC like you lump everyone as either T/TC or G/GC. That gets us nowhere. And you've been nowhere since 1974.