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[halil]

Rauf Denktas has said that the European Court of Justice’s decision on the Orams case was actually a recommendation and an interpretation of the EU law, adding that the Turkish Side has a chance to overturn the decision at the British Court.
`We have a chance if Turkey included in the case and our government applies to be included in the case` Rauf Denktash told a conference at the Near East University.
He said that the Court said in its decision that judgments should be implemented in all European countries, except in cases when they were in contrary to domestic policies.
`Here, we have a way out`, Denktash said.

I don't know what he means ? Later on may be more details might come frm the papers ......

[Kikapu]

[Kikapu]

Rauf Denktas has said that the European Court of Justice’s decision on the Orams case was actually a recommendation and an interpretation of the EU law, adding that the Turkish Side has a chance to overturn the decision at the British Court.
`We have a chance if Turkey included in the case and our government applies to be included in the case` Rauf Denktash told a conference at the Near East University.
He said that the Court said in its decision that judgments should be implemented in all European countries, except in cases when they were in contrary to domestic policies.
`Here, we have a way out`, Denktash said.

I don't know what he means ? Later on may be more details might come frm the papers ......

Turkey is not an EU member for one and secondly, the "government" in the north is not recognised by the EU, therefore this ruling does not involve Turkey or the north, so I don't know what is it that he wants to be included in challenging this ruling in the British Courts.! I think Denktash is trying to save his butt from being sued for holding onto a lot of stolen GC property and not because he believes in finding a legal interpretation to the ECJ ruling.! If this is the best he can come up with after 2 weeks since this ruling came out, he better get ready to kiss his illegally gotten gains goodbye soon or face being hounded each time he travels to any of the other 26 EU countries where he has a lot of CASH stashed away, I'm sure.!

[YFred]

Rauf Denktas has said that the European Court of Justice’s decision on the Orams case was actually a recommendation and an interpretation of the EU law, adding that the Turkish Side has a chance to overturn the decision at the British Court.
`We have a chance if Turkey included in the case and our government applies to be included in the case` Rauf Denktash told a conference at the Near East University.
He said that the Court said in its decision that judgments should be implemented in all European countries, except in cases when they were in contrary to domestic policies.
`Here, we have a way out`, Denktash said.

I don't know what he means ? Later on may be more details might come frm the papers ......

Turkey is not an EU member for one and secondly, the "government" in the north is not recognised by the EU, therefore this ruling does not involve Turkey or the north, so I don't know what is it that he wants to be included in challenging this ruling in the British Courts.! I think Denktash is trying to save his butt from being sued for holding onto a lot of stolen GC property and not because he believes in finding a legal interpretation to the ECJ ruling.! If this is the best he can come up with after 2 weeks since this ruling came out, he better get ready to kiss his illegally gotten gains goodbye soon or face being hounded each time he travels to any of the other 26 EU countries where he has a lot of CASH stashed away, I'm sure.!

He is an old warrior. If it is likely to lead to war, that the UK court could ignore the ruling.

However if UK can opt out of the Human Rights act as they did to be able to imprison people without charge indefinitely, I am certain they will find a way to ignore this decision. Even if they don’t does it really matter, when the Orams can sell everything even at a low price in UK and buy a few more bargain properties in the north where they can’t be touched?

[Sotos]

Is now anybody in doubt that most Turks are criminals who are trying to avoid the law and commit illegalities? I think the Orams case proved to the world what we always knew. That the Turks have no respect to law. They are just criminals that will try to find ways to violate laws so they can steal and violate the human rights of innocent people.

[YFred]

Is now anybody in doubt that most Turks are criminals who are trying to avoid the law and commit illegalities? I think the Orams case proved to the world what we always knew. That the Turks have no respect to law. They are just criminals that will try to find ways to violate laws so they can steal and violate the human rights of innocent people.

Most Turks Sotos? What's the percentage? is it more thn 50%?

[Sotos]

If the TC members of this forum are a representative sample then it seems around 80%. The only one who is clearly against these crimes is Kikapu. Then there are a few that have no comment on the subject. Most of the rest of you are trying to find ways to get away from the law so you can continue with the stealing and and the crimes!

[miltiades]

If the TC members of this forum are a representative sample then it seems around 80%. The only one who is clearly against these crimes is Kikapu. Then there are a few that have no comment on the subject. Most of the rest of you are trying to find ways to get away from the law so you can continue with the stealing and and the crimes!

May I disagree with you Sotos , the majority of T/Cs on this forum do not agree with the sale of G/C properties to foreigners. Not only Kikapu as you say , but , and let them contradict me , Deniz , Iceman , Vuryek, xxNILxx
Birkibrisly , Cem , TC , Umit07 and from some time back Ahmed and Pashas .The list can go on and on. The majority of T/Cs DO NOT agree with the sale of G/C properties anymore than the G/Cs would agree with the sale of T/C properties.
I have asked this question many times to T/Cs in the UK . Only one man agreed with the sale of G/C properties.

[The Cypriot]

I have asked this question many times to T/Cs in the UK . Only one man agreed with the sale of G/C properties.

Man? I have to say I don't believe such a person could be said to be endowed with qualities considered characteristic of manhood.

[Lit]

If the TC members of this forum are a representative sample then it seems around 80%. The only one who is clearly against these crimes is Kikapu. Then there are a few that have no comment on the subject. Most of the rest of you are trying to find ways to get away from the law so you can continue with the stealing and and the crimes!

May I disagree with you Sotos , the majority of T/Cs on this forum do not agree with the sale of G/C properties to foreigners. Not only Kikapu as you say , but , and let them contradict me , Deniz , Iceman , Vuryek, xxNILxx
Birkibrisly , Cem , TC , Umit07 and from some time back Ahmed and Pashas .The list can go on and on. The majority of T/Cs DO NOT agree with the sale of G/C properties anymore than the G/Cs would agree with the sale of T/C properties.
I have asked this question many times to T/Cs in the UK . Only one man agreed with the sale of G/C properties.

May I disagree with you Milti, ohh what am i saying......Which parallel universe are YOU living in??

Seriously, what do you expect them to say to you? Are you sitting at their kitchen table? What they tell you is one thing, their actions are another thing. Sotos is spot on. The only TC in this forum who agrees with the Orams decision and the ECJ ruling "is Kikapu. Then there are a few that have no comment on the subject" as Sotos rightly pointed out. He's right!! Does their silence on the ECJ ruling mean they disagree with the ruling? I have no idea, but Sotos is right!!

Talat himself did not approve of the ECJ ruling. Talat, the person who you consider a "moderate" actually responded with threats. If the majority of the TCs disapproved of this it wouldnt of happened, period. My goodness, we are talking about thousands upon thousands of GC properties being sold to foreigners.

Here is our President's response to Talat's threats:

President Christofias described Talat`s reaction to the European Court of Justice ruling on Apostolides vs Orams case, unwise issuing press releases that contain threats. “That is bad”, the President added.

http://www.lgr.co.uk/index.php?option=c ... Itemid=378

May i suggest you get a clue Milti.