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Re: Cyprus’ long division and barriers to unity

Postby The Cypriot » Wed May 13, 2009 7:41 pm

YFred wrote:
The Cypriot wrote:
miltiades wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Belatedly, the government of Turkey, led by Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan, is making serious conciliatory overtures in search of an end to the impasse. The ball is now in the Greeks’ court.

Not surprisingly, he stopped dead in his tracks from telling us what these Turkish “conciliatory overtures” are… :lol:

Junk article...

Lets find out by asking this journalist what are the serious conciliatory overtures !!!
Perhaps some one on the forum knows .


Not sure this constitutes 'serious conciliatory overtures' but according to my sources...

Erdogan, Gul and the new Foreign Minister Davutoglu have all repeated in the past month the same message of support for a solution based on a bi-zonal, bi-communal federation (this stems from British and American pressure). Ankara continues to freeze out Denktash and has changed Eroglu overnight – who now speaks not of confederation but of a more 'ambiguous' two-state (ie. two-zones, two-component states) solution.

'Ambiguity' is needed to slowly bring people round to a 'reunification mind frame'. Eroglu's and Turkey's continued support is necessary to win a YES vote in the north as current opinion polls suggest a more likely NO vote this time. Turkey (or the government at least) is moving in the right direction and seems ready to accept a solution.

TCs voted yes in the last vote before the last elections, but they were let down by the EU and no longer trust them never mind RoC. I suspect whatever Turkey says or does, they will vote no next time and Turkey will just have to continue to pick up the bill for stupidities of the past.


Surely they can rig the election - or buy the electorate? We are talking of an unrecognised state where anything goes.
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Re: Cyprus’ long division and barriers to unity

Postby Get Real! » Wed May 13, 2009 11:08 pm

YFred wrote:TCs voted yes in the last vote before the last elections, but they were let down by the EU and no longer trust them never mind RoC. I suspect whatever Turkey says or does, they will vote no next time and Turkey will just have to continue to pick up the bill for stupidities of the past.

Another Turkish Cypriot myth…(do they ever end?)

“The EU promised us… blah blah blah!”

The EU is not a promissory note but an organization with which you SIGN written agreements or you haven’t got one!
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Postby humanist » Thu May 14, 2009 12:15 am

:) *knods head* in agreeance with GR and Oracles ;)
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Postby YFred » Thu May 14, 2009 8:36 am

humanist wrote::) *knods head* in agreeance with GR and Oracles ;)

Please don't knod your head too hard old boy, it may fall off! You may end up like GR and Oracle, headless and heartless.
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Postby denizaksulu » Thu May 14, 2009 8:46 am

YFred wrote:
humanist wrote::) *knods head* in agreeance with GR and Oracles ;)

Please don't knod your head too hard old boy, it may fall off! You may end up like GR and Oracle, headless and heartless.



You are wrong Yfred.

Ask all thebirds GR knows. They will testify that he is in posession of a great head.

As to O, she has a great heart. Full of love and caring for her people..............................so much that none is left for outsiders. Do you blame her? :lol:
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Postby YFred » Thu May 14, 2009 10:06 am

denizaksulu wrote:
YFred wrote:
humanist wrote::) *knods head* in agreeance with GR and Oracles ;)

Please don't knod your head too hard old boy, it may fall off! You may end up like GR and Oracle, headless and heartless.



You are wrong Yfred.

Ask all thebirds GR knows. They will testify that he is in posession of a great head.

As to O, she has a great heart. Full of love and caring for her people..............................so much that none is left for outsiders. Do you blame her? :lol:

I see what you mean, the kind of person who loves them so much, she strangles them with love. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby insan » Thu May 14, 2009 3:00 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
YFred wrote:
humanist wrote::) *knods head* in agreeance with GR and Oracles ;)

Please don't knod your head too hard old boy, it may fall off! You may end up like GR and Oracle, headless and heartless.



You are wrong Yfred.

Ask all thebirds GR knows. They will testify that he is in posession of a great head.

As to O, she has a great heart. Full of love and caring for her people..............................so much that none is left for outsiders. Do you blame her? :lol:


Ain't it called national-fascism? :lol: Grivas and Sampson alike attitudes...
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Postby denizaksulu » Thu May 14, 2009 3:28 pm

insan wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
YFred wrote:
humanist wrote::) *knods head* in agreeance with GR and Oracles ;)

Please don't knod your head too hard old boy, it may fall off! You may end up like GR and Oracle, headless and heartless.



You are wrong Yfred.

Ask all thebirds GR knows. They will testify that he is in posession of a great head.

As to O, she has a great heart. Full of love and caring for her people..............................so much that none is left for outsiders. Do you blame her? :lol:


Ain't it called national-fascism? :lol: Grivas and Sampson alike attitudes...



I am not an expert on 'Political Nomenclature'.

I will agree that for some GCs they were heroes but not for their victims. Their actions during the Republic years were somewhat unacceptable to some, GC and TC.
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Postby The Cypriot » Thu May 14, 2009 3:48 pm

insan wrote:
Ain't it called national-fascism? :lol: Grivas and Sampson alike attitudes...


Benito Mussolini, died April 28, 1945
Adolf Hitler; died April 30, 1945
George Grivas; died January 27, 1974
Nicos Sampson; died May 9, 2001

Defaced mountains in Cyprus, 14 May 2009.

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Postby insan » Thu May 14, 2009 4:27 pm

The Cypriot wrote:
insan wrote:
Ain't it called national-fascism? :lol: Grivas and Sampson alike attitudes...


Benito Mussolini, died April 28, 1945
Adolf Hitler; died April 30, 1945
George Grivas; died January 27, 1974
Nicos Sampson; died May 9, 2001

Defaced mountains in Cyprus, 14 May 2009.

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Maybe bcz Oracle is still alive? :wink:
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