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[repulsewarrior]

VP, you're taking a razzing, without you none of 'us' could test our own beliefs, and even if it's true i too remember solomou; this time you nearly said it, but then the dog in you said woof.

join me in dreaming about a world ideal; it really was you that got me started now a few years ago. there are thoughts you could imagine better than mine.

Old crow, i tell you never mind for once the cry of criminal intent, that incessant caw these birds find so annoying, write us a song; birds can sing in harmony.

Cyprus is an island. And remembering what is not right leaves us at this impasse. Embracing change for the betterment of our future, as Human Beings, means a demonstration of courage and the conviction to refine the Principals on which our unity is based.

you know, my manifesto...

...and what is wrong with enclaves?

[Kikapu]

You concentrate on finding solution and then accuse Turkey of not wanting to leave when they object to the structure we have agreed that does not include their presence. How do you know the GCs are not obstructing a solution?

Any solution based on True Federation and True Democracy seems to be an automatic "no solution" to the "trnc" and Turkey, therefore, it is an easy excuse to keep the troops on the island, unless an agreement is made on another AP type of undemocratic solution, and even then, looking at the last undemocratic AP in 2004, the removal of troops was far from reality, but only a myth. Being in the EU, there can only be a True Democracy and BBF can only mean True Federation, therefore, right there, it is a "no solution" for the "trnc" and Turkey. Most GC's accept the above principles, so how can I accuse them of not wanting a solution. Why do you think the international community over and over again are asking Turkey to play a constructive role in a settlement. Just what do you think they mean exactly, if not the removal of troops so that a settlement can happen.?

[Kikapu]

You concentrate on finding solution and then accuse Turkey of not wanting to leave when they object to the structure we have agreed that does not include their presence. How do you know the GCs are not obstructing a solution?

Any solution based on True Federation and True Democracy seems to be an automatic "no solution" to the "trnc" and Turkey, therefore, it is an easy excuse to keep the troops on the island, unless an agreement is made on another AP type of undemocratic solution, and even then, looking at the last undemocratic AP in 2004, the removal of troops was far from reality, but only a myth. Being in the EU, there can only be a True Democracy and BBF can only mean True Federation, therefore, right there, it is a "no solution" for the "trnc" and Turkey. Most GC's accept the above principles, so how can I accuse them of not wanting a solution. Why do you think the international community over and over again are asking Turkey to play a constructive role in a settlement. Just what do you think they mean exactly, if not the removal of troops so that a settlement can happen.?

“Ankara holds the key for the solution of the Cyprus problem and Turkey insists on unacceptable positions for a solution based on a confederation and two separate states”.

http://www.tganews.com/modules.php?name ... e&sid=7850

[Viewpoint]

You concentrate on finding solution and then accuse Turkey of not wanting to leave when they object to the structure we have agreed that does not include their presence. How do you know the GCs are not obstructing a solution?

Any solution based on True Federation and True Democracy seems to be an automatic "no solution" to the "trnc" and Turkey, therefore, it is an easy excuse to keep the troops on the island, unless an agreement is made on another AP type of undemocratic solution, and even then, looking at the last undemocratic AP in 2004, the removal of troops was far from reality, but only a myth. Being in the EU, there can only be a True Democracy and BBF can only mean True Federation, therefore, right there, it is a "no solution" for the "trnc" and Turkey. Most GC's accept the above principles, so how can I accuse them of not wanting a solution. Why do you think the international community over and over again are asking Turkey to play a constructive role in a settlement. Just what do you think they mean exactly, if not the removal of troops so that a settlement can happen.?

The international community has also commended Turkey for her constructive roll (UN) in trying to find a solution and do not call for her withdrawal today. On the other hand we have a regretful EU that have addmitted to being blackmailed and regret taking in a divided country with so many unsolvable problems, to which the GCs are partially the cause.

Turkeys troops will leave the moment GCs see sense and agree a solution, they are part and parcel of the overall deal just like the property issue.

The "True Democracy and Human Rights" are not the issue here its how they are administered and how easily they can be manipulated by experts like the GCs to create an atmosphere where we are soon relegated to minority status in a GC state run purely by GCs with no effective TC say in their own future. You may want to expose TCs to this danger but I do not so there demand safeguards and guarantees which will not only keep GCs on the straight and narrow but also the TCs.

[Viewpoint]

You concentrate on finding solution and then accuse Turkey of not wanting to leave when they object to the structure we have agreed that does not include their presence. How do you know the GCs are not obstructing a solution?

Any solution based on True Federation and True Democracy seems to be an automatic "no solution" to the "trnc" and Turkey, therefore, it is an easy excuse to keep the troops on the island, unless an agreement is made on another AP type of undemocratic solution, and even then, looking at the last undemocratic AP in 2004, the removal of troops was far from reality, but only a myth. Being in the EU, there can only be a True Democracy and BBF can only mean True Federation, therefore, right there, it is a "no solution" for the "trnc" and Turkey. Most GC's accept the above principles, so how can I accuse them of not wanting a solution. Why do you think the international community over and over again are asking Turkey to play a constructive role in a settlement. Just what do you think they mean exactly, if not the removal of troops so that a settlement can happen.?

“Ankara holds the key for the solution of the Cyprus problem and Turkey insists on unacceptable positions for a solution based on a confederation and two separate states”.

http://www.tganews.com/modules.php?name ... e&sid=7850

Where has Turkey actually declared this? they have supported BBF with political equality as per UN declarations.

[paliometoxo]

they always delcaire they want two states!! every chance they get!!! apart from when in mettings with christofias to "solv cy problem" they should just sit at the table and talk for like 10 hours days weeks if it takes that long instead of holding one meeting every 50 years and nothing changes then they keep pushing deadlines and so on foward nothing is getting done.... meanwhile turkey insisits on two states at every chance they get

[growuptcs]

You concentrate on finding solution and then accuse Turkey of not wanting to leave when they object to the structure we have agreed that does not include their presence. How do you know the GCs are not obstructing a solution?

Any solution based on True Federation and True Democracy seems to be an automatic "no solution" to the "trnc" and Turkey, therefore, it is an easy excuse to keep the troops on the island, unless an agreement is made on another AP type of undemocratic solution, and even then, looking at the last undemocratic AP in 2004, the removal of troops was far from reality, but only a myth. Being in the EU, there can only be a True Democracy and BBF can only mean True Federation, therefore, right there, it is a "no solution" for the "trnc" and Turkey. Most GC's accept the above principles, so how can I accuse them of not wanting a solution. Why do you think the international community over and over again are asking Turkey to play a constructive role in a settlement. Just what do you think they mean exactly, if not the removal of troops so that a settlement can happen.?

“Ankara holds the key for the solution of the Cyprus problem and Turkey insists on unacceptable positions for a solution based on a confederation and two separate states”.

http://www.tganews.com/modules.php?name ... e&sid=7850

Where has Turkey actually declared this? they have supported BBF with political equality as per UN declarations.

Do you fail miserably at everything you do, or just with Cyprus?

[Get Real!]

...we have a regretful EU that have addmitted to being blackmailed and regret taking in a divided country with so many unsolvable problems,...

Post a link to this EU announcement or stop posting through your backside...

[Viewpoint]

...we have a regretful EU that have addmitted to being blackmailed and regret taking in a divided country with so many unsolvable problems,...

Post a link to this EU announcement or stop posting through your backside...

So you think they are happy with the current situation, another 20 years of stalemate and they will chuck you out. Makes a mockery of the word "union" when there division dont you think?

[Viewpoint]

they always delcaire they want two states!! every chance they get!!! apart from when in mettings with christofias to "solv cy problem" they should just sit at the table and talk for like 10 hours days weeks if it takes that long instead of holding one meeting every 50 years and nothing changes then they keep pushing deadlines and so on foward nothing is getting done.... meanwhile turkey insisits on two states at every chance they get

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