Paphitis wrote:The picture I paint does not contrast one bit with the information I have at my disposal and from the many private lines I exchange with him almost on a daily basis.
Top marks to Mr Carter for identifying the "respecter of the uniform" who "does not question his superiors".
Be britainsmallwars' messenger Paphitis, and don't ask questions! Follow orders!
You see Oracle, I know who he is, what he has written and know people here in Australia who respect him as a Journalist and as a Military historian.
I know people who respect Hitler, and I know you respect uniforms. So what!
And because I know who he is, I will politely point out that GR!, Kifeas and you are way out of your depth. Saying things like "shining a bright source in my
cave" is overstepping the mark.
That reference (incorrectly quoted) was regarding Carter's unsubstantiated citation about
Afxentiou having a copy of a Kazantzakis' book supposedly given to him by a monk whom they wanted to implicate.
He was a very high ranking officer of the British Army but never served in Cyprus.
Yes my dear, I was the one who told YOU that.
I am also familiar with his material and have ordered a copy of The Cyprus Tapes.
We have agreed to disagree on many if not most issues.
He maintains some sympathy with the TCs, but deplores TMT and EOKA equally. David is just being David. He is controversial and many of his previous works have landed him in very hot water.
What are you telling me this claptrap for? He can come and feather his own nest!
There are warrants for his arrest in the "trnc" and maybe also in Turkey.]
And this is how he has gained your respect? Do you know what those warrants are for? Has he embezzled the "Memorial" funds set up by Denktash? I don't know, and frankly I don't care what one criminal wants with another possible criminal!
That's right, the Turks want to see him rot in jail and yet you came out with this bullshit story that he was funded by Turkey's Foreign Affairs ministry.
Is this what he told you? Kindly look at the thread where I
asked him as to the source of the funding for his book. I did not
make up any stories and I expect an apology from YOU!
Believe me, he won't defend his points of view and neither is he seeking to justify himself. He does not want forgiveness because as far as he is concerned he has done no wrong.
There are no discrepancies to correct. He will just answer questions honestly, whether you, I, Kifeas, GR! or Turkey agree with him or not.
He was only asked to defend what he
could ... Instead he left! Fine ... no one invited him to come. He did his
recruiting and left.
One thing is for sure, he is not interested in exchanging on any political matter and only wanted to contact me because he was intrigued with some of my responses and because he already knew my background.
Your vanity is your main weakness Paphitis, and he has identified that correctly too!
I am not his defence attorney, but perhaps I can assist you with these discrepancies which I am sure are manufactured just like everything else. I have given you the answers you wanted and am willing to help you some more.
You are not the Paphitis I know.
He may not be directly involved with this "Memorial" now (another "half truth" probably), through age and retirement, but he has handed on the legacy ....
He did lobby Clerides about this Memorial back in 2000. Clerides was going to allow them to erect it at Wayne's Keep, but then things changed when Tassos came to power.
You are so blinded ... you have come a long way since last week when I had to correct you on which photograph was actually him, or Harding
It's
Denktash who supported him!
A Memorial to British Soldiers in North Cyprus
By
David Carter
WHEN our memorial project began, many of us hoped we would be able one day to erect a permanent monument in memory of the British Forces who died in Cyprus in the course of fighting the Eoka terrorist movement.
Throughout South Cyprus there are museums and monuments to honor the EOKA members who died. There is none for the British, not even on the territory of the British Sovereign Bases.
This matter was raised with President Rauf Denktas of the Turkish Republic of North Cyprus and the local military authorities. Mr Denktas and the Turkish Army promised their co-operation. They offered a plot of land on which the British monument could be built.
However, there were conditions: we would have to prove former British servicemen and women, British expats in the TRNC and others would contribute to the cost and give their wholehearted support.
The first to contribute (£100) was Colonel John Watts MC, the former CO of the British Military Hospital in Nicosia during the Eoka period.
President Denktas opened a special bank account in Lefkosa/Nicosia for those who wished to follow the colonel's example.
A Canadian architect in North Cyprus agreed to design the memorial and supervise its building free of charge.
To move the project forward, we needed to form a co-ordinating commitee in the TRNC and another in the UK. Their purpose would be to raise the necessary funds.
Dave Cranston, ex-RUR, raised the concept of the memorial project on Britain's Channel 4 Teletext pages as well as with the British Legion, regimental associations and civilian police officers who served in Cyprus and had lost comrades.
We approached prominent figures in the British establishment and Members of Parliament of all political persuasions, expecting favorable responses, especially in the wake of "September 11" and our service personnel being posted to Afghanistan and elsewhere in the "war against terrorism".
Our optimism was misplaced. Expats threw up their arms in horror at the suggestion of a memorial in North Cyprus. They considered it would "send the wrong political signals". Others who vacation in South Cyprus or have holiday homes there, refused any assistance. They said they would be banned from Cyprus and feared Greek retaliation. We were advised in curt terms to "drop it".
Even the Tories shied away from these fascists...
David Carter wrote:Iain Duncan Smith, a former Army officer who now leads the Tory Party, declined to say (twice) whether he would or would lend his support. He said only that he had "noted" the content of our letters.
He is no longer involved in the memorial other then providing the service records of the 371, of which only 104 were KIA by EOKA.
I asked him about these numbers but he fled, only (barely) admitting they are not endorsed by the MoD
He has done something similar to the appearance here, (*talk*cyprus*) where he exchanged politely with another young forumer only to disappear off as soon as Kifeas and GR! confronted him.
But yes of course you must always throw down the gauntlet in order to entice him back to CF.
Unfortunately he won't be back, not because he has been challenges but because he does not want to reply to ridiculous assertions as to the discrepancy of the 371 figure compared to the 104 figure. He more than adequately explained how these figures were derived and yet that still was not good enough for you.
Save it Oracle, he is beyond our petty CF games, innuendos and hysteria.
You are the only one playing games, Paphitis ... and when it comes to the memory of our EOKA fighters, you have proved yourself the weakest link ....
You should know that from his 23 posts on Talk Cyprus.
As I said earlier, if you want some questions answered then I am willing and able to convey his answers. But the smartest thing to do is to just drop it until you actually know what your talking about.
Are you sure you're a pilot and not some airhead steward?
