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[Paphitis]

Petros and Costas in 1974. You can see the bullet mark on Petros's belly.

Paphitis, I have conveyed your message to Petros Souppouris, who is a pilot with Cyprus Airways. I think your suggestions apply more for him who witnessed the cold blooded killing of 17 members of his family, including his parents and two younger brothers.

When the borders opened in 2003, Petros went to his house in Palaikythron taking with him his children. He showed them the spot where his parents were killed. In my house, he said, now lives a good person, who told me that whenever I want to return he would give me the house back. Everything happened in the prevailing conditions at the time. Some lost. some won, some were affected by the events some became rich as a result of the events. At the moment, what is of utmost importance is for my children, your children, not to go through the same experience. We need to understand what happened and prevent such a thing ever happening again.

Petros taught his children not to hate. It is of no consequence, he told his children, if they took your house. What is of importance is to learn to live together with the Turkish Cypriots and all our fellow human beings regardless of ethnic background and to appreciate their concerns.

Petros participated in a reconcilliation meeting last summer and he spoke in front of a mixed audience. Husein Akansoi was with Petros. Husein hails from Maratha and in 1974 he lost 30 members of his family. He said that he became a proponent of reconcilliation despite seeing the headless bodied of his brothers.

Paphitis, you can staff your nationalism.

Yasasin Petros and Husein!

I have a family connections with this family through marriage.

My in laws know them all very well. They are from the same village Palekythro/Kythrea.

Another Uncle is buried in the Palekythro Cemetery.

This is his grave:



So you can send my regards to Petros Soupouris. Tell him that my father in law that owned the Kythrea Petrolina sends his warmest regards.

Also tell him that I may very well apply to Cy Air in a few years....He knows what to do....

Another thing, my partner and I visited her parents home in Kythrea and in it lives a former TMT. We felt most unwelcome and the guy left me with cold shivers down my spine. Her grandparents home next door is inhabited by a normal TC family. The husband is an officer of the "trnc" police. This guy and his family were wonderful. We broke bread together, drank wine and still maintain contact to this very day.

[Paphitis]

And, the Turks wouldn't love you oracle, if you hadn't invited them (with open arms).

And the Turks wouldn't love you if you hadn't kissed their butts and given them a good blow job.

And Denktash and his British stooges wouldn't love you if you hadn't grabbed onto their memorial erections!

I assume you are referring to David Carter.

Let me make myself very clear.

I have been communicating with David Carter also known as David Mathews.

He is a very polite gentleman. I know who he is and understand his politics.

He makes no secret of the fact that he is good friends with Denktash and Glavkos Clerides. He is not involved with the Kyrenia memorial but knows others who are.

He is a famous author and former BBC television producer, and is a wanted man in the "trnc" for pieces he has authored. There are warrants for his arrest in occupied Cyprus.

He does not own any land in the "trnc" and believes that the ECJ verdict in the Apostolides case was correct. He does not sympathise with any Brits who have purchased any illegal property in occupied Cyprus.

The bank account that was set up with Dentash's support no longer exists, and his offer to donate land to them was diplomatically declined because he did not think it was appropriate.

He only came on this forum to get into contact with me. He no longer feels the need to participate on this forum to prove any political points or to further the memorial for which he accepts no responsibility for, despite him lobbying for it in the past with the support of Denktash and Clerides. He is far too polite to be exchanging uncouth and vile forum messages with both GCs and TCs. You could call him any name under the sun, but he would not reciprocate.

The individual is highly respected within political circles in Australia. He is a personal friend of Australia's former Prime Minister and is highly regarded as a Military Historian. Chip, I think you are out of order and clearly do not know what you are talking about.

I suggest you look at your own house before you start throwing any rocks. Or at least ensure you get your facts rights.

[Bananiot]

Paphitis, do you also want me to tell Petros that he is kissing Turkish butt and gives them a good blow job? On second thoughts, why not ask your in-laws to pass on the message to Petros, after all he is just another Bananiot, isn´t he?

[Oracle]

And, the Turks wouldn't love you oracle, if you hadn't invited them (with open arms).

And the Turks wouldn't love you if you hadn't kissed their butts and given them a good blow job.

And Denktash and his British stooges wouldn't love you if you hadn't grabbed onto their memorial erections!

I assume you are referring to David Carter.

Let me make myself very clear.

I have been communicating with David Carter also known as David Mathews.

He is a very polite gentleman. I know who he is and understand his politics.

Paphitis you know my feelings on this situation. The picture you paint contrasts enormously with some of the other information around, even from his own pen.

He has done something similar to the appearance here, (*talk*cyprus*) where he exchanged politely with another young forumer only to disappear off as soon as Kifeas and GR! confronted him. Here also he just seemed to want to reverse his bad reputation, but was less than able to correct discrepancies in what has been published and left as you say after securing contact with you.

He may not be directly involved with this "Memorial" now (another "half truth" probably), through age and retirement, but he has handed on the legacy ....

[The Cypriot]

And, the Turks wouldn't love you oracle, if you hadn't invited them (with open arms).

And the Turks wouldn't love you if you hadn't kissed their butts and given them a good blow job.

And Denktash and his British stooges wouldn't love you if you hadn't grabbed onto their memorial erections!

I assume you are referring to David Carter.

Let me make myself very clear.

I have been communicating with David Carter also known as David Mathews.

He is a very polite gentleman. I know who he is and understand his politics.

He makes no secret of the fact that he is good friends with Denktash and Glavkos Clerides. He is not involved with the Kyrenia memorial but knows others who are.

He is a famous author and former BBC television producer, and is a wanted man in the "trnc" for pieces he has authored. There are warrants for his arrest in occupied Cyprus.

He does not own any land in the "trnc" and believes that the ECJ verdict in the Apostolides case was correct. He does not sympathise with any Brits who have purchased any illegal property in occupied Cyprus.

The bank account that was set up with Dentash's support no longer exists, and his offer to donate land to them was diplomatically declined because he did not think it was appropriate.

He only came on this forum to get into contact with me. He no longer feels the need to participate on this forum to prove any political points or to further the memorial for which he accepts no responsibility for, despite him lobbying for it in the past with the support of Denktash and Clerides. He is far too polite to be exchanging uncouth and vile forum messages with both GCs and TCs. You could call him any name under the sun, but he would not reciprocate.

The individual is highly respected within political circles in Australia. He is a personal friend of Australia's former Prime Minister and is highly regarded as a Military Historian. Chip, I think you are out of order and clearly do not know what you are talking about.

I suggest you look at your own house before you start throwing any rocks. Or at least ensure you get your facts rights.

Hey, if you're the only one allowed to dish out hurtful insults – like you did to Bananiot – then shoot me down, why don't you? Or ask your commanding officer whether he wouldn't mind ordering you to do so. (I know how these things work).

[Paphitis]

Paphitis, do you also want me to tell Petros that he is kissing Turkish butt and gives them a good blow job? On second thoughts, why not ask your in-laws to pass on the message to Petros, after all he is just another Bananiot, isn´t he?

My comment is for you Bananiot and you deserved it for saying something similar to another forumer such as this:

And, the Turks wouldn't love you oracle, if you hadn't invited them (with open arms).

You don't swear but effectively you are saying the same thing.

The only person who is inviting the Turks with open arms is you Bananiot.

And you can leave Petros Soupourris out of this.

I agree with everything he states and my in laws who also have missing identify with his story. they also just so happen to hail from the same village and know each other quite well.

[Paphitis]

And, the Turks wouldn't love you oracle, if you hadn't invited them (with open arms).

And the Turks wouldn't love you if you hadn't kissed their butts and given them a good blow job.

And Denktash and his British stooges wouldn't love you if you hadn't grabbed onto their memorial erections!

I assume you are referring to David Carter.

Let me make myself very clear.

I have been communicating with David Carter also known as David Mathews.

He is a very polite gentleman. I know who he is and understand his politics.

He makes no secret of the fact that he is good friends with Denktash and Glavkos Clerides. He is not involved with the Kyrenia memorial but knows others who are.

He is a famous author and former BBC television producer, and is a wanted man in the "trnc" for pieces he has authored. There are warrants for his arrest in occupied Cyprus.

He does not own any land in the "trnc" and believes that the ECJ verdict in the Apostolides case was correct. He does not sympathise with any Brits who have purchased any illegal property in occupied Cyprus.

The bank account that was set up with Dentash's support no longer exists, and his offer to donate land to them was diplomatically declined because he did not think it was appropriate.

He only came on this forum to get into contact with me. He no longer feels the need to participate on this forum to prove any political points or to further the memorial for which he accepts no responsibility for, despite him lobbying for it in the past with the support of Denktash and Clerides. He is far too polite to be exchanging uncouth and vile forum messages with both GCs and TCs. You could call him any name under the sun, but he would not reciprocate.

The individual is highly respected within political circles in Australia. He is a personal friend of Australia's former Prime Minister and is highly regarded as a Military Historian. Chip, I think you are out of order and clearly do not know what you are talking about.

I suggest you look at your own house before you start throwing any rocks. Or at least ensure you get your facts rights.

Hey, if you're the only one allowed to dish out hurtful insults – like you did to Bananiot – then shoot me down, why don't you? Or ask your commanding officer whether he wouldn't mind ordering you to do so. (I know how these things work).

Shoot you down????

I don't think so. You don't know me too well.

I suggest you leave CF at once if my "insulting posts" are an issue for you or at least consult a Psychiatrist as I would not want my insulting posts over the internet to cause you some mental issues.

Very interesting post from a forumer who posts rubbish such as this:

And Denktash and his British stooges wouldn't love you if you hadn't grabbed onto their memorial erections!

Bravo!

[denizaksulu]

And none of all these would have happened if it wasn't for the Turkish invasion.

And none of all these would have happened if it wasn't for the demand for Enosis.


Sotos, if we keep bringing all these up, we will get nowhere. Lets look forward! Thats a good boy.

[Oracle]

And none of all these would have happened if it wasn't for the Turkish invasion.

And none of all these would have happened if it wasn't for the demand for Enosis.


Sotos, if we keep bringing all these up, we will get nowhere. Lets look forward! Thats a good boy.

Two impositions, of forcing Turkish will upon the Cypriot people (1. denying them their right [e.g. Enosis] 2. denying them their freedom [e.g. invasion]) ... do not make a right Deniz.

Denying us our rights is how this continues ....






We will look forward, when our rights are restored.

[Paphitis]

And, the Turks wouldn't love you oracle, if you hadn't invited them (with open arms).

And the Turks wouldn't love you if you hadn't kissed their butts and given them a good blow job.

And Denktash and his British stooges wouldn't love you if you hadn't grabbed onto their memorial erections!

I assume you are referring to David Carter.

Let me make myself very clear.

I have been communicating with David Carter also known as David Mathews.

He is a very polite gentleman. I know who he is and understand his politics.

Paphitis you know my feelings on this situation. The picture you paint contrasts enormously with some of the other information around, even from his own pen.

He has done something similar to the appearance here, (*talk*cyprus*) where he exchanged politely with another young forumer only to disappear off as soon as Kifeas and GR! confronted him. Here also he just seemed to want to reverse his bad reputation, but was less than able to correct discrepancies in what has been published and left as you say after securing contact with you.

He may not be directly involved with this "Memorial" now (another "half truth" probably), through age and retirement, but he has handed on the legacy ....

I know your feelings about the matter and I respect them. I really do.

The picture I paint does not contrast one bit with the information I have at my disposal and from the many private lines I exchange with him almost on a daily basis.

You see Oracle, I know who he is, what he has written and know people here in Australia who respect him as a Journalist and as a Military historian.

And because I know who he is, I will politely point out that GR!, Kifeas and you are way out of your depth. Saying things like "shining a bright source in my cave" is overstepping the mark.

He was a very high ranking officer of the British Army but never served in Cyprus. I am also familiar with his material and have ordered a copy of The Cyprus Tapes.

We have agreed to disagree on many if not most issues.

He maintains some sympathy with the TCs, but deplores TMT and EOKA equally. David is just being David. He is controversial and many of his previous works have landed him in very hot water.

There are warrants for his arrest in the "trnc" and maybe also in Turkey.

That's right, the Turks want to see him rot in jail and yet you came out with this bullshit story that he was funded by Turkey's Foreign Affairs ministry.

Believe me, he won't defend his points of view and neither is he seeking to justify himself. He does not want forgiveness because as far as he is concerned he has done no wrong.

There are no discrepancies to correct. He will just answer questions honestly, whether you, I, Kifeas, GR! or Turkey agree with him or not.

There are many things I hate about his point of view and I have told him so. That is fine don't you think?

One thing is for sure, he is not interested in exchanging on any political matter and only wanted to contact me because he was intrigued with some of my responses and because he already knew my background.

Perhaps you may be nice enough to highlight these discrepancies to me.

I am not his defence attorney, but perhaps I can assist you with these discrepancies which I am sure are manufactured just like everything else. I have given you the answers you wanted and am willing to help you some more.

He may not be directly involved with this "Memorial" now (another "half truth" probably), through age and retirement, but he has handed on the legacy ....

He did lobby Clerides about this Memorial back in 2000. Clerides was going to allow them to erect it at Wayne's Keep, but then things changed when Tassos came to power.

He is no longer involved in the memorial other then providing the service records of the 371, of which only 104 were KIA by EOKA.

As I said before, the minute the guy sets foot in the "trnc", he is off to jail.

Or is that a lie as well.

He has done something similar to the appearance here, (*talk*cyprus*) where he exchanged politely with another young forumer only to disappear off as soon as Kifeas and GR! confronted him.

But yes of course you must always throw down the gauntlet in order to entice him back to CF.

Unfortunately he won't be back, not because he has been challenged but because he does not want to reply to ridiculous assertions as to the discrepancy of the 371 figure compared to the 104 figure. He more than adequately explained how these figures were derived and yet that still was not good enough for you.

Save it Oracle, he is beyond our petty CF games, innuendos and hysteria.

You should know that from his 23 posts on Talk Cyprus.

As I said earlier, if you want some questions answered then I am willing and able to convey his answers. But the smartest thing to do is to just drop it until you actually know what your talking about.