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Postby Dr J » Tue May 12, 2009 1:33 am

My allegiance is to Cyprus and to Britain , minus the greedy MPs and Traffic Wardens ! Laughing Laughing


Why on earth would you have allegience to Britain when she certainly doesnt have allegience to Cyprus?
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Postby The Cypriot » Tue May 12, 2009 2:21 am

Dr J wrote:
My allegiance is to Cyprus and to Britain , minus the greedy MPs and Traffic Wardens ! Laughing Laughing


Why on earth would you have allegience to Britain when she certainly doesnt have allegience to Cyprus?


She does. Britain's allegiances to Cyprus are sovereign....
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Postby miltiades » Tue May 12, 2009 7:15 am

Dr J wrote:
My allegiance is to Cyprus and to Britain , minus the greedy MPs and Traffic Wardens ! Laughing Laughing


Why on earth would you have allegience to Britain when she certainly doesnt have allegience to Cyprus?

300 Thousand Cypriots live in the UK , I amongst them. The UK has "served" us well . Not to reciprocate and feel detached from the UK would be contrary to the Cypriot spirit .( Armenians and Maronites ) The political allegiance you are questioning as lacking from Britain is merely on the political scene and not the wider social and economic spectre. To live in a country for tens of years and feel unconnected to its spirit , culture and social stratosphere is paramount to being insensitive unappreciative and distant from the land that gave so many of us an unhindered opportunity to education and attainment of a reasonable standard of living. The investments that the UK Cypriots initiated in Cyprus even a few months after the horrific events of 1974 ,contributed greatly to the economic recovery of Cyprus , a recovery that has been heralded as a miracle economic recovery. !!!
I do not think that there is one single Cypriot leaving in Cyprus that does not have some connection with the UK , either by having lived in the UK or having relations that live in Britain or have done in the past .
These are the reasons why I along with many other Cypriots feel close to Britain.


Britain has been indirectly partly responsible for the Cypriot political upheavals and ensuing conflicts as a result of its political leaders' incompetence and shortsightedness , however we as Cypriots have a much larger share of blame , not as large of that of Greece and Turkey but substantially sufficient.
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Postby denizaksulu » Tue May 12, 2009 8:50 am

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Therefore, the only one who has to be completely disarmed for future security of the area is Turkey ...


Although she may insist on keeping her airforce....

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Why does Oracle make silly suggestions? :roll: Its not even the jokes section. Disarm Turkey? My --------- :oops:
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Postby Oracle » Tue May 12, 2009 9:48 am

miltiades wrote:
Dr J wrote:
My allegiance is to Cyprus and to Britain , minus the greedy MPs and Traffic Wardens ! Laughing Laughing


Why on earth would you have allegience to Britain when she certainly doesnt have allegience to Cyprus?

300 Thousand Cypriots live in the UK , I amongst them. The UK has "served" us well . Not to reciprocate and feel detached from the UK would be contrary to the Cypriot spirit .( Armenians and Maronites ) The political allegiance you are questioning as lacking from Britain is merely on the political scene and not the wider social and economic spectre. To live in a country for tens of years and feel unconnected to its spirit , culture and social stratosphere is paramount to being insensitive unappreciative and distant from the land that gave so many of us an unhindered opportunity to education and attainment of a reasonable standard of living. The investments that the UK Cypriots initiated in Cyprus even a few months after the horrific events of 1974 ,contributed greatly to the economic recovery of Cyprus , a recovery that has been heralded as a miracle economic recovery. !!!
I do not think that there is one single Cypriot leaving in Cyprus that does not have some connection with the UK , either by having lived in the UK or having relations that live in Britain or have done in the past .
These are the reasons why I along with many other Cypriots feel close to Britain.


Britain has been indirectly partly responsible for the Cypriot political upheavals and ensuing conflicts as a result of its political leaders' incompetence and shortsightedness , however we as Cypriots have a much larger share of blame , not as large of that of Greece and Turkey but substantially sufficient.


Our connections were not necessarily voluntary. For many they were an economic necessity after her plunder of our mines and destruction of our country .... The UK is now just another EU member country to us which is fair enough (once the Bases are removed and a few little matters sorted).
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Postby miltiades » Tue May 12, 2009 9:56 am

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Dr J wrote:
My allegiance is to Cyprus and to Britain , minus the greedy MPs and Traffic Wardens ! Laughing Laughing


Why on earth would you have allegience to Britain when she certainly doesnt have allegience to Cyprus?

300 Thousand Cypriots live in the UK , I amongst them. The UK has "served" us well . Not to reciprocate and feel detached from the UK would be contrary to the Cypriot spirit .( Armenians and Maronites ) The political allegiance you are questioning as lacking from Britain is merely on the political scene and not the wider social and economic spectre. To live in a country for tens of years and feel unconnected to its spirit , culture and social stratosphere is paramount to being insensitive unappreciative and distant from the land that gave so many of us an unhindered opportunity to education and attainment of a reasonable standard of living. The investments that the UK Cypriots initiated in Cyprus even a few months after the horrific events of 1974 ,contributed greatly to the economic recovery of Cyprus , a recovery that has been heralded as a miracle economic recovery. !!!
I do not think that there is one single Cypriot leaving in Cyprus that does not have some connection with the UK , either by having lived in the UK or having relations that live in Britain or have done in the past .
These are the reasons why I along with many other Cypriots feel close to Britain.


Britain has been indirectly partly responsible for the Cypriot political upheavals and ensuing conflicts as a result of its political leaders' incompetence and shortsightedness , however we as Cypriots have a much larger share of blame , not as large of that of Greece and Turkey but substantially sufficient.


Our connections were not necessarily voluntary. For many they were an economic necessity after her plunder of our mines and destruction of our country .... The UK is now just another EU member country to us which is fair enough (once the Bases are removed and a few little matters sorted).

You have obviously benefited a great deal from Britain. Your education for instance , your lack of common sense :lol: and your incomparable wit , all very British , what ! !! :lol:
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Postby Oracle » Tue May 12, 2009 10:06 am

miltiades wrote:
Oracle wrote:
miltiades wrote:
Dr J wrote:
My allegiance is to Cyprus and to Britain , minus the greedy MPs and Traffic Wardens ! Laughing Laughing


Why on earth would you have allegience to Britain when she certainly doesnt have allegience to Cyprus?

300 Thousand Cypriots live in the UK , I amongst them. The UK has "served" us well . Not to reciprocate and feel detached from the UK would be contrary to the Cypriot spirit .( Armenians and Maronites ) The political allegiance you are questioning as lacking from Britain is merely on the political scene and not the wider social and economic spectre. To live in a country for tens of years and feel unconnected to its spirit , culture and social stratosphere is paramount to being insensitive unappreciative and distant from the land that gave so many of us an unhindered opportunity to education and attainment of a reasonable standard of living. The investments that the UK Cypriots initiated in Cyprus even a few months after the horrific events of 1974 ,contributed greatly to the economic recovery of Cyprus , a recovery that has been heralded as a miracle economic recovery. !!!
I do not think that there is one single Cypriot leaving in Cyprus that does not have some connection with the UK , either by having lived in the UK or having relations that live in Britain or have done in the past .
These are the reasons why I along with many other Cypriots feel close to Britain.


Britain has been indirectly partly responsible for the Cypriot political upheavals and ensuing conflicts as a result of its political leaders' incompetence and shortsightedness , however we as Cypriots have a much larger share of blame , not as large of that of Greece and Turkey but substantially sufficient.


Our connections were not necessarily voluntary. For many they were an economic necessity after her plunder of our mines and destruction of our country .... The UK is now just another EU member country to us which is fair enough (once the Bases are removed and a few little matters sorted).

You have obviously benefited a great deal from Britain. Your education for instance , your lack of common sense :lol: and your incomparable wit , all very British , what ! !! :lol:


... and my cousins who stayed behind managed even better, in Athens or Bulgaria, Hungary, Roumania, Czechoslovakia etc :lol: .... courtesy of AKEL connections. There's always a way to get an education if you so desire ...... The UK has benefited from the GCs enormously, both in Cyprus and at home ... I do not think there is parity yet!
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Postby The Cypriot » Tue May 12, 2009 10:13 am

miltiades wrote:
Oracle wrote:
miltiades wrote:
Dr J wrote:
My allegiance is to Cyprus and to Britain , minus the greedy MPs and Traffic Wardens ! Laughing Laughing


Why on earth would you have allegience to Britain when she certainly doesnt have allegience to Cyprus?

300 Thousand Cypriots live in the UK , I amongst them. The UK has "served" us well . Not to reciprocate and feel detached from the UK would be contrary to the Cypriot spirit .( Armenians and Maronites ) The political allegiance you are questioning as lacking from Britain is merely on the political scene and not the wider social and economic spectre. To live in a country for tens of years and feel unconnected to its spirit , culture and social stratosphere is paramount to being insensitive unappreciative and distant from the land that gave so many of us an unhindered opportunity to education and attainment of a reasonable standard of living. The investments that the UK Cypriots initiated in Cyprus even a few months after the horrific events of 1974 ,contributed greatly to the economic recovery of Cyprus , a recovery that has been heralded as a miracle economic recovery. !!!
I do not think that there is one single Cypriot leaving in Cyprus that does not have some connection with the UK , either by having lived in the UK or having relations that live in Britain or have done in the past .
These are the reasons why I along with many other Cypriots feel close to Britain.


Britain has been indirectly partly responsible for the Cypriot political upheavals and ensuing conflicts as a result of its political leaders' incompetence and shortsightedness , however we as Cypriots have a much larger share of blame , not as large of that of Greece and Turkey but substantially sufficient.


Our connections were not necessarily voluntary. For many they were an economic necessity after her plunder of our mines and destruction of our country .... The UK is now just another EU member country to us which is fair enough (once the Bases are removed and a few little matters sorted).

You have obviously benefited a great deal from Britain. Your education for instance , your lack of common sense :lol: and your incomparable wit , all very British , what ! !! :lol:



One trait I've rejected is Britain's distinct lack of dignity.
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Postby The Cypriot » Tue May 12, 2009 10:34 am

If Turkey wishes to guarantee the security of Cypriots she would need to demonstrate her fitness for such an incredibly sensitive role by bringing to justice all her war criminals responsible for atrocities in 1974 - and since - and there have been many...

Let's see them all made examples of; arrested, tried and imprisoned for their crimes against humanity, as this will act as a deterrant against future such crimes in Cyprus.

Let's talk about justice; then let's talk about security.
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Postby Oracle » Tue May 12, 2009 10:45 am

The Cypriot wrote:If Turkey wishes to guarantee the security of Cypriots she would need to demonstrate her fitness for such an incredibly sensitive role by bringing to justice all its war criminals responsible for atrocities in 1974 - and since - and there have been many...

Let's see them all made examples of; arrested, tried and imprisoned for their crimes against humanity, as this will act as a deterrant against future such crimes in Cyprus.

Let's talk about justice; then let's talk about security.


Good point .... how can one of the World's worst Human Rights violators offer security?

If Turkey has been deemed unfit for the EU, what makes anyone think she is fit to guard us little lambs?
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