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A SOLUTION WOULD NOT BE FOUND WITHOUT TURKISH GUARANTEES

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby The Cypriot » Mon May 11, 2009 10:28 pm

Oracle wrote:
Can't Turks have more than one wife/husband? :?

VP is a traditionalist, after all .....


You'll have to ask her. As for me, I wouldn't want to upset young Byron by raiding his harem...
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Postby The Cypriot » Mon May 11, 2009 10:32 pm

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I will not be able to accept NATO as a Guarantor that will step in in times of crisis sorry but thats how I feel it is a matter of placing ones well being in the hands of someone you trust and many TCs will not back this alternative.


Then, unfortunately, we have nothing further to discuss.
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Postby Get Real! » Mon May 11, 2009 10:40 pm

NATO security? :?

Some people might want to lookup what NATO is all about before suggesting it as “Guarantor” for Cyprus… it’s the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard! :lol:
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Postby Viewpoint » Mon May 11, 2009 10:41 pm

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Viewpoint wrote:
I will not be able to accept NATO as a Guarantor that will step in in times of crisis sorry but thats how I feel it is a matter of placing ones well being in the hands of someone you trust and many TCs will not back this alternative.


Then, unfortunately, we have nothing further to discuss.


So you are leaving the negotiating table.
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Postby denizaksulu » Mon May 11, 2009 10:42 pm

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Viewpoint wrote:You need to persuade me to dump Turkeys guarantee not the other way around.


VP, do you agree, in principle, to NATO security? IF you receive sufficient assurances that your security will be safeguarded?

Viewpoint wrote:What if Turkey guarantee only covered the TC state as TCs will not let go of this life line if things shoudl go wrong.


I, personally, would not be able to agree to Turkey having any intervention rights anywhere in Cyprus. Sorry. That's how I feel. I doubt there are many free Cypriots who will feel differently. Same for Greece. Same for Britain. We just don't want them.

But all three could have intervention rights throughout the whole island – through NATO – until the situation on the island stabilised.


Answer this, otherwise I'm going to stop: promise...



TC, it is obvious that the majority of TC's have concerns re: their safety against the majority GC's. That is why they seek Intervention rights for Turkey. What sort of mechanism would you put in place to placate their fears.

Your fears re: Turkey are understandable, do you see why TC's fear the majority GC's?
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Postby The Cypriot » Mon May 11, 2009 10:47 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
The Cypriot wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
I will not be able to accept NATO as a Guarantor that will step in in times of crisis sorry but thats how I feel it is a matter of placing ones well being in the hands of someone you trust and many TCs will not back this alternative.


Then, unfortunately, we have nothing further to discuss.


So you are leaving the negotiating table.


I've requested someone open minded that I can do business with.... I've got a real country to help run.
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Postby Viewpoint » Mon May 11, 2009 10:48 pm

The Cypriot wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
The Cypriot wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
I will not be able to accept NATO as a Guarantor that will step in in times of crisis sorry but thats how I feel it is a matter of placing ones well being in the hands of someone you trust and many TCs will not back this alternative.


Then, unfortunately, we have nothing further to discuss.


So you are leaving the negotiating table.


I've requested someone open minded that I can do business with.... I've got a real country to help run.


So you want someone who will agree with everything you say and accept all your demands.
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Postby The Cypriot » Mon May 11, 2009 10:51 pm

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TC, it is obvious that the majority of TC's have concerns re: their safety against the majority GC's. That is why they seek Intervention rights for Turkey. What sort of mechanism would you put in place to placate their fears.


I've suggested NATO but according to your self-appointed spokeswoman, even with assurances that wouldn't be acceptable.

denizaksulu wrote:Your fears re: Turkey are understandable, do you see why TC's fear the majority GC's?


Yes, but I genuinely believe that, in an EU conext, those fears are over-played.
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Postby The Cypriot » Mon May 11, 2009 10:52 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
The Cypriot wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
The Cypriot wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
I will not be able to accept NATO as a Guarantor that will step in in times of crisis sorry but thats how I feel it is a matter of placing ones well being in the hands of someone you trust and many TCs will not back this alternative.


Then, unfortunately, we have nothing further to discuss.


So you are leaving the negotiating table.


I've requested someone open minded that I can do business with.... I've got a real country to help run.


So you want someone who will agree with everything you say and accept all your demands.


Our meeting has been adjourned.
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Postby Viewpoint » Mon May 11, 2009 10:53 pm

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TC, it is obvious that the majority of TC's have concerns re: their safety against the majority GC's. That is why they seek Intervention rights for Turkey. What sort of mechanism would you put in place to placate their fears./quote]

I've suggested NATO but according to your self-appointed spokeswoman, even with assurances that wouldn't be acceptable.

denizaksulu wrote:Your fears re: Turkey are understandable, do you see why TC's fear the majority GC's?


Yes, but I genuinely believe that, in an EU conext, those fears are over-played.


And we are just supposed to accept this?
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